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LudicrousSpeed said:
Ha, I fucking KNEW that was old Max. Same abrasive arguments with zero substance. And of course he’s defending this.

I actually got my first warning in a thread with Max King.  Kinda feels like old times. Oh the nostalgia...



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FentonCrackshell said:
Why’s everyone so anxious to play with Sony players?

We had the issue of crossplay some months ago. This is more, contaminating a third-party account with PSN so it get's unplayable on other systems. So new issue, although connected to the cross-play thing.



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EricHiggin said:
cycycychris said:

You originally downplayed the effect to PS4 players and being anti-consumer with a policy like this saying they will be happy that Sony might trickle a little of that money to PS4 first party games, I debunked that by showing you that 40% of Switch owners have a PS4. Showing that you by blocking these accounts you are being very anti-consumer to a large percentage of your own crowd (might I remind you that is only Switch, when we count in Xbone and PC players that percent skyrockets). You can never make everyone happy, just look at how Nintendo fans can be so divided some times, but when 40% of switch players have the potential to be affected by this policy, then you have a problem. Don't just forget, Epic is just the first to try this out, there will be more. While maybe only 4 million people will be affect this time (hypothetical), next time its total of 6 million, then its 9 and soon you hurt the majority of the population after a few more big games try this.

And again, sorry this isn't an Epic problem, they have to follow these policies that Sony has set. They have investor to answer to, they can't just not port it to Switch or not port to PS4 due to a small policy they don't like. They have been very loud about there distate for Sony's policies and have requested them to change. This is Sony's fault.

Well to say that PS fans are PS fans, but would rather play Fortnite on Switch doesn't jive. Let's put it this way to make it super simple. If the problem becomes big enough, like the close to 10 million people effected by this so you say, as of right now, and likely to grow, then you can bet that PS will make their own Switch like hardware to solve that problem. PS would much rather have you playing on a PS device, than allow you to give that money to other companies. The more games that end up having this problem, and the more gamers effected by it, the higher the chance you will see a new PS Portable sooner than later.

However, PS does not offer console gaming on the go right now, so if you choose what Nin is offering, which is gaming on the go, then you have to abide by Nin's rules on their platform, and PS's rules on theirs. Nin isn't going to allow Mario on PS consoles even if all 80 million PS gamers bought Switch's and said we want Mario wherever and whenever we want, with the best graphics available. That's not Nin's problem. If you want Mario, get a Nin device. Period. This could lead to another Nin home console though.

Epic has investors to answer to, but PS doesn't? Who's investors are more important? Should we all just say screw PS and their investors and let the company crash and burn? We all know what happens when there isn't enough competition in the industry. Should we force people who invest in PS to also invest just as much in Nin and MS to make sure everything is always even so there is no reason for any brand to try and up it's game?

Its Epic's fault because they chose not to look ahead and plan for the future, or they simply didn't care and took what they could get from PS. If you buy a set of rims for your car, and then decide you want a different brand of car, but want to keep your cool rims, yet find out that when you go to add them onto the new car that it has a different bolt pattern and they won't fit, you don't go and blame the car company. If you do they will tell you to either go back to your old brand of car or buy another set of rims and tires that fit their car. Why do the car companies do this? To make you spend more money and to try to lock you into their ecosystem. This happens in all industries, everywhere, all the time.

What a hypocritical post. Investors will rather have account switching allowed rather than swaths of bad PR at Sony's faces.

By the way, Sony stock was down 2% because of this. How ironic.  We can't screw up PS investors if PS already is doing that themselves.

And yes, we all know what happens when there isn't enough competition in the industry, which is stuff like this.



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flashfire926 said:
EricHiggin said:

Well to say that PS fans are PS fans, but would rather play Fortnite on Switch doesn't jive. Let's put it this way to make it super simple. If the problem becomes big enough, like the close to 10 million people effected by this so you say, as of right now, and likely to grow, then you can bet that PS will make their own Switch like hardware to solve that problem. PS would much rather have you playing on a PS device, than allow you to give that money to other companies. The more games that end up having this problem, and the more gamers effected by it, the higher the chance you will see a new PS Portable sooner than later.

However, PS does not offer console gaming on the go right now, so if you choose what Nin is offering, which is gaming on the go, then you have to abide by Nin's rules on their platform, and PS's rules on theirs. Nin isn't going to allow Mario on PS consoles even if all 80 million PS gamers bought Switch's and said we want Mario wherever and whenever we want, with the best graphics available. That's not Nin's problem. If you want Mario, get a Nin device. Period. This could lead to another Nin home console though.

Epic has investors to answer to, but PS doesn't? Who's investors are more important? Should we all just say screw PS and their investors and let the company crash and burn? We all know what happens when there isn't enough competition in the industry. Should we force people who invest in PS to also invest just as much in Nin and MS to make sure everything is always even so there is no reason for any brand to try and up it's game?

Its Epic's fault because they chose not to look ahead and plan for the future, or they simply didn't care and took what they could get from PS. If you buy a set of rims for your car, and then decide you want a different brand of car, but want to keep your cool rims, yet find out that when you go to add them onto the new car that it has a different bolt pattern and they won't fit, you don't go and blame the car company. If you do they will tell you to either go back to your old brand of car or buy another set of rims and tires that fit their car. Why do the car companies do this? To make you spend more money and to try to lock you into their ecosystem. This happens in all industries, everywhere, all the time.

What a hypocritical post. Investors will rather have account switching allowed rather than swaths of bad PR at Sony's faces.

By the way, Sony stock was down 2% because of this. How ironic.  We can't screw up PS investors if PS already is doing that themselves.

And yes, we all know what happens when there isn't enough competition in the industry, which is stuff like this.

What an ill informed post. Clearly your not an investor. What they would prefer is a PS hardware device to solve the problem. One that not only solves this problem, but the many more that apparently are sure to arise just like this. Might as well have those 10 million+ Switch owners switching to a PS Portable spending their money on PS items, making it harder for other companies to compete, adding more profits for the PS brand and more value to the companies shares, and money in those investors pockets. Also better to wait it out until the hardware is ready to launch, instead of rushing broken hardware, or giving into cross platform game play sharing, where once that door is opened it can never be legitimately closed.

I mean why didn't XB just create a solely service based business back then if spending money up front to take business from other companies was such a horrible thing? Why is XB clearly spending a bunch of money now? A stock moving 2% is meaningless. It happens everyday across the market, up and down, and sometimes seemingly for no reason whatsoever.

What happens in a situation like this, is Nin creates something unique like the Switch, which apparently is good enough to buy for $299, but not good enough for the owners since they require a better graphical version on the $299 PS4. You also get things like Game Pass, which ends up useless for the most part because even though it's a really good deal, it's not making many people buy XB1's, so what's the point in PS bending over backwards if based on sales, people clearly agree PS is still pro consumer enough to warrant a PS4 purchase?



Man, some of the excuses......

"Do you want Sony to crash, burn, and go bankrupt!!??" (As if Playstation is on it's fucking knees...)

"Sony should be allowed to do this because Microsoft did this last gen!" (If your friend went crazy and murdered someone, does that mean you're allowed to do that yourself?)

Pathetic.



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irstupid said:
Aeolus451 said:

I did google it and I saw alot of ninty fans making a big deal out of it. People can't transfer dlc or accounts of cod to different hardware or any other multiplayer game in general. That's normal. If someone decides to go further then that's just extra.

That is you copping out.

Of course Nintendo fans are making a big deal out of it. They are the ones being affected. But you can go and watch your favorite Jim Sterling on youtube address this if you want. I know you Sony fans love him.

But it was just released on Switch, so the problem is being noticed. It's not a new problem, but one that went unoticed before. The amount of PS4/Switch crossover for this game is infinitely larger than the PS4/One crossover. A PS4 player would hardly ever have a reason to ever even attempt to log into Fortnite on the Xbox One. Why would they? If someone owns both, the odds are most definitely that they have the systems both hooked up to the exact same tv and those systems stay there. Same for Xbox person. No reason to ever log into a PS4 to play. They may log into PC or Mobile at times, but that works. The Switch though is something that PS4 users finally noticed. FYI, the definition of a Nintendo fan in this case is someone who owns both a PS4 and a Switch.

I was watching Greg on Kinda Funny during his review of the E3 Nintendo conference trying to log into Fortnite. Later you could see his tweet about it. He was not a happy camper. So Greg Miller is one of those Nintendo fanboys.

Jim Sterling and alot of those guys are overrated.  They make youtube vids or twitch vids long enough and they start to get a swelled head. Their opinions are inconsequential to anyone outside of their fanbase.

Alot of ninty fans got a ps4 to hold them over til a new nintendo console came after the failed wii u. They are the ones bitching over this. This not being able to share accounts/dlc is a normal practice in multiplatform games but I guess ninty fans wouldn't have alot of experience in this. Ninty fans are making a big deal out of nothing and are just gonna have to deal with it.



Pyro as Bill said:
Aeolus451 said:

I did google it and I saw alot of ninty fans making a big deal out of it. People can't transfer dlc or accounts of cod to different hardware or any other multiplayer game in general. That's normal. If someone decides to go further then that's just extra.

The writing's on the wall though. More and more games are going the service route. Devs want everyone in the same ecosystem. The bigger a userbase, the longer a game can survive, the longer it survives the more DLC $$$ it makes.

Sony got away with giving Minecraft and Rocket League the middle finger. It'll be interesting to see how they treat FIFA, GTAonline and CoD going forward.

You're forgetting something very important in this. Devs/pubs make more money when gamers buy the game and dlc for it on multiple platforms multiple times. The small devs are willing to bend over backwards in some cases to get as many players as possible but that wouldn't ever happen in something like cod. Also, some of you are conflating cross play with this when it's not specifically related to that. 



Aeolus451 said:
irstupid said:

That is you copping out.

Of course Nintendo fans are making a big deal out of it. They are the ones being affected. But you can go and watch your favorite Jim Sterling on youtube address this if you want. I know you Sony fans love him.

But it was just released on Switch, so the problem is being noticed. It's not a new problem, but one that went unoticed before. The amount of PS4/Switch crossover for this game is infinitely larger than the PS4/One crossover. A PS4 player would hardly ever have a reason to ever even attempt to log into Fortnite on the Xbox One. Why would they? If someone owns both, the odds are most definitely that they have the systems both hooked up to the exact same tv and those systems stay there. Same for Xbox person. No reason to ever log into a PS4 to play. They may log into PC or Mobile at times, but that works. The Switch though is something that PS4 users finally noticed. FYI, the definition of a Nintendo fan in this case is someone who owns both a PS4 and a Switch.

I was watching Greg on Kinda Funny during his review of the E3 Nintendo conference trying to log into Fortnite. Later you could see his tweet about it. He was not a happy camper. So Greg Miller is one of those Nintendo fanboys.

Alot of ninty fans got a ps4 to hold them over til a new nintendo console came after the failed wii u. They are the ones bitching over this. This not being able to share accounts/dlc is a normal practice in multiplatform games but I guess ninty fans wouldn't have alot of experience in this. Ninty fans are making a big deal out of nothing and are just gonna have to deal with it.

A smorgasbord of anecdotal gibberish. None of what you stated is backed up by any factual evidence other than personal bias. "A lot of Ninty fans got a ps4 to hold them over"? One of the most ludicrous things I've ever read on this site. 



PortisheadBiscuit said:
Aeolus451 said:

Alot of ninty fans got a ps4 to hold them over til a new nintendo console came after the failed wii u. They are the ones bitching over this. This not being able to share accounts/dlc is a normal practice in multiplatform games but I guess ninty fans wouldn't have alot of experience in this. Ninty fans are making a big deal out of nothing and are just gonna have to deal with it.

A smorgasbord of anecdotal gibberish. None of what you stated is backed up by any factual evidence other than personal bias. "A lot of Ninty fans got a ps4 to hold them over"? One of the most ludicrous things I've ever read on this site. 

Where do you think all of those ninty fans that didn't buy the wii u went? Stop gaming altogether? Use your brain. This whole thread is entitlement gone wrong. 



Aeolus451 said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

A smorgasbord of anecdotal gibberish. None of what you stated is backed up by any factual evidence other than personal bias. "A lot of Ninty fans got a ps4 to hold them over"? One of the most ludicrous things I've ever read on this site. 

Where do you think all of those ninty fans that didn't buy the wii u went? Stop gaming altogether? Use your brain. This whole thread is entitlement gone wrong. 

I'd love for you to provide a source that proves a large percentage of Nintendo fans ran to Sony to get their Zelda and Mario fixes. And when you say fans, does that allude to casual fans or hardcore gamers? Hardcore gamers would be more likely to buy multiple systems right? So they'd end up with a PS4 regardless of how Wii U fared. Don't forget 3DS, lots of fans got their fix there. 

A lot of people are stoping at nothing to defend Sony, what they're doing is anti-gamer no matter which way you look at it. Nintendo and Microsoft have gotten their share of criticism for shady things they've done, Sony isn't exempt.