I can agree with that, it happened with Smash 4. As for the foundation of the game, doesn't get better than Smash 4, so no complaints there. Just saying what they focused on at E3 left a little to be desired.

Fair enough.

it's just another enhanced WiiU port, or WiiU remaster if you prefer, it is obvious by just looking at the game that it is not built from the ground up...

Nintendo really knows how to make money, and how to repel fans and supporters, should be a fact by now

What difference does it make if this game is a port or not? Might as well go into a topic and argue that the switch is a handheld or a home console. Does it matter?

As for why it's a new game, these are my reasons. New fighting mechanics, new characters to the series and from earlier games returning, improved graphics, subtitled game, Nintendo and Sakurai say its a new game, it's on a new system, every other port they have released they have made it clear its a port.

Seriously the only argument people have that it is a port is that it looks similar to the last game. Returning characters or stages is not indicative of a port when talking about fighter games.

I know I'm gonna get crap for this, and trust me I know this is a fairly moot point (though I DO NOT think it's entirely moot), but any surprise that the guy that dominated Smash Wii U (ZeRo) also won Smash Ultimate Tournament?

Yeah, no. you're just unequivocally wrong. Not even a 'but there are similarities' sort of way. 

Smash 5 already has more changes than iterative yearly sports titles, and those aren't called ports. It's a fighting game with a large roster of characters. Yes, it shares characters and stages from prior smash games, but EVERY smash sequel has shared stages and characters from prior games.

Just like literally every other fighting game sequel from ever. 

At this point we don't know anything about the other game modes, but the fact that it has ALL The characters and more, many of the characters have significant changes from previous iterations, the fundamentals of combat (dodging, sheilding, jumping, air-dodging, etc) and we have new content in the form of new stages and characters on top of adding a bunch of old stuff shows that it's not a port. 

A port would be "All the same characters, all the same stages, the exact same combat system, and all the same gameplay modes" with all the DLC. We have new characters, new gameplay mechanics (or at least fundamentally altered mechanics), and we don't know about the singleplayer modes yet. 

Give it up. You are wrong. You can argue and throw opinions all you want, you're still fundamentally wrong, and that means it's the end of this discussion. 

I've already answered your question multiple times you simply refuse to acknowledge maybe for the sake of your argument so at this point it's not my issue if you don't accept it or don't understand. The Discussion concluded when you were debunked simple as that that off the hook nonsense is just more waffle as far as I'm concerned because you're no lord of the manor here who I have yield to so keep that to yourself.

My lord the Marth part in this post just proved my prior post correct on all levels even the part about you deliberately misquoting to try and boost your argument I said in S4 he's played conservatively focusing on his tipper play and positioning while aggression falls to Lucina, this part sums up your entire stance well done. The context of that whole part with Marth was you trying to say Marth was always an aggressive character in the series at which point I pointed out that no in S4 he wasn't, this whole entire context pretty much shuts down your Melee argument because differing philosophies in that game have no bearing in the context congratulations you just reinforce my prior points and the use of random images to circle jerk yourself over your own argument made it even funnier.

You mean Hungrybox who moaned that Melee is not being supported over S4 made a descriptive comment well who would have guessed I guess that means the FGC comments on SFV being SF4.5 mean that's not a new game either, guess how the same people described S4? Brawl 2.0 why? Because it didn't play like Melee.

You're telling me you can't think of a game with added characters and gameplay mechanic changes? I'll give you two hints (Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Ninja Gaiden 3 Razors Edge).

*edit* Street Fighter 2 was notorious for it, Mortal Kombat, I wanna say 3.