GribbleGrunger said:
So what agenda would that be? I'll repeat it again because people seem to be struggling to understand: It's about the mirroring, not the kiss. Mirroring is a technique that is used in narrative which flicks between two opposite themes. From a cold environment to a hot environment. From the death of a loved one to the birth of an infant. Right, you got that? Let's move on (and forget about the kiss). We move into the scene and have the line 'they should fear you'. This refers to jealously or love. During the kiss (ignore the kiss it's just a mechanism for the mirroring. Camera zooms in/ camera zooms out. Transition completed. Mirroring accomplished). The next scene is of Ellie stabbing a man in the neck. We've moved from love to hate (the theme of TLOU2). This is clearly deliberate. The problem I see with people trying to discuss this and getting it wrong is they themselves can't get around Ellie being gay or the kiss. The kiss doesn't matter and neither does the fact Ellie is gay. Are you still following? I hope you took that in. If Ellie was a man, I would still have the same problem. Are you still with me? The line 'they should fear you' would still mean the same and stabbing the man in the neck would still be mirroring. |
I've been following this thread fairly superficially, but it amazes me as well that most people didn't understand the first time what you explained here again. It indeed might seem like agenda at first with line such as "I think they (men) should be terrified of you" to killing men right after it, though fairly quickly we see there's women she kills as well.
I'm quite curious what would be reactions in media if it was other way around, and we see some guy listening to "they (women) should be terrified of you" and then cut to him killing women (at first at least).