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LiquorandGunFun said:

makes sense.

some just hate cant resist to hate, because Microsoft. its an obvious good move.

You mean Azzanation and Ludicrous Speed hates Microsoft and that is why they don't see a need to buy Playground Games?

DirtyP2002 said:
Bandorr said:
So they are basically buying the Forza Studio.. so no one else can have them make a game?

So instead of going out and getting new studio and new games.. they are just buying lifetime access to games they are already getting?
This is basically like the Coalition then. The studio that makes gears of war?

Or like Santa Monica making God of war?
or like Polyphony Digital making Gran Turismo?
or like Nintendo doing 95% of their games related to their existing mascots?

Bioware made Xbox exclusives and look what happened.
You are trying way too hard to hate, bro.

SSM besides supporting external games also were requested by Sony to do a game that wasn't GoW. Cory Barlong himself defended and pitched GoW on PS4 and got greenlit (similar story to ND who also decides what they are going to develop and they decided to make 4 UC+LL and 2 TLoU+DLC).

PD was created because Kaz wanted to make GT, he also helped LoD, made a bike game and a very obscure one. He is the one also deciding to keep doing GT.

All these 3 (and effectively others) are free to decide what they want to make.

About Nintendo you can go and complain to them, even if the head of the studio was the creator of the franchises and probably the one that is more passionate to keep doing those franchises.



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Bandorr said:
So they are basically buying the Forza Studio.. so no one else can have them make a game?

So instead of going out and getting new studio and new games.. they are just buying lifetime access to games they are already getting?
This is basically like the Coalition then. The studio that makes gears of war?

Eh, nah. This is a logical acquisition. Very similar to the idea of Sony acquiring Quantic Dream. Of course they could strengthen the teams they already have, but I prefer this method of business over spending money on timed exclusive content. With it, we can get full IPs only for their brand (Xbox/Windows). 



                                                                                                                                            

CGI-Quality said:
Bandorr said:
So they are basically buying the Forza Studio.. so no one else can have them make a game?

So instead of going out and getting new studio and new games.. they are just buying lifetime access to games they are already getting?
This is basically like the Coalition then. The studio that makes gears of war?

Eh, nah. This is a logical acquisition. Very similar to the idea of Sony acquiring Quantic Dream. Of course they could strengthen the teams they already have, but I prefer this method of business over spending money on timed exclusive content. With it, we can get full IPs only for their brand (Xbox/Windows). 


And i'd consider the purchasing of Quantic dream to also be fairly foolish without reason. You are already getting the games, with no competition. So why spend time/money/effort on getting something you've already gotten.

Feels like there is a "reason" missing. Why now? Did they want to stop making Forza games (IE bungie). Did they want to go third party (like Remedy). Did another Company offer them something?

Then again what is the name of the studio that makes the other Forza games? Is that first party, or third party? Maybe Microsoft wants to combine them.

There is a reason - and without that reason I think it appears foolish.



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Bandorr said:
CGI-Quality said:

Eh, nah. This is a logical acquisition. Very similar to the idea of Sony acquiring Quantic Dream. Of course they could strengthen the teams they already have, but I prefer this method of business over spending money on timed exclusive content. With it, we can get full IPs only for their brand (Xbox/Windows). 


And i'd consider the purchasing of Quantic dream to also be fairly foolish without reason. You are already getting the games, with no competition. So why spend time/money/effort on getting something you've already gotten.

Feels like there is a "reason" missing. Why now? Did they want to stop making Forza games (IE bungie). Did they want to go third party (like Remedy). Did another Company offer them something?

Then again what is the name of the studio that makes the other Forza games? Is that first party, or third party? Maybe Microsoft wants to combine them.

There is a reason - and without that reason I think it appears foolish.

Not foolish at all. Growing your Team Base makes a lot of sense when the company and its properties are synonymous with your brand. We can speculate on the reason, but that's pointless. There's currently not outward negative apparent to it. Playground already makes games for Microsoft, as you noted. The acquisition is the next logical step.



                                                                                                                                            

Bandorr said:
CGI-Quality said:

Eh, nah. This is a logical acquisition. Very similar to the idea of Sony acquiring Quantic Dream. Of course they could strengthen the teams they already have, but I prefer this method of business over spending money on timed exclusive content. With it, we can get full IPs only for their brand (Xbox/Windows). 

And i'd consider the purchasing of Quantic dream to also be fairly foolish without reason. You are already getting the games, with no competition. So why spend time/money/effort on getting something you've already gotten.

Feels like there is a "reason" missing. Why now? Did they want to stop making Forza games (IE bungie). Did they want to go third party (like Remedy). Did another Company offer them something?

Then again what is the name of the studio that makes the other Forza games? Is that first party, or third party? Maybe Microsoft wants to combine them.

There is a reason - and without that reason I think it appears foolish.

They're getting the games but that doesn't mean they will always be getting the games, If Playground wanted to stop making Forza games then they could very well do so, If they wanted to go 3rd party then I expect they could do so, I think Playground obviously still enjoys making Horizon games as they could have used their Horizon studio for that but instead opened a new one from the ground up so that they could continue making the Horizon series.

I guess it's possible that another company offered something and Microsoft has first rights of bidding but I'd say it's more likely a case of Microsoft securing it's future with Playground Games, boosting their investment in Gaming, I doubt they want to lose one of their best partner studios which is making 2 of their major franchises and the longer they wait, the more expensive Playground becomes, the more competition Microsoft has and the more chance they lose Playground.

Turn 10 makes Motorsport and yeah they're owned by Microsoft but T10 is American and PG is British so it doesn't really make any sense to merge them, especially since Playground isn't just a Forza studio anymore.

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CGI-Quality said:
Bandorr said:


And i'd consider the purchasing of Quantic dream to also be fairly foolish without reason. You are already getting the games, with no competition. So why spend time/money/effort on getting something you've already gotten.

Feels like there is a "reason" missing. Why now? Did they want to stop making Forza games (IE bungie). Did they want to go third party (like Remedy). Did another Company offer them something?

Then again what is the name of the studio that makes the other Forza games? Is that first party, or third party? Maybe Microsoft wants to combine them.

There is a reason - and without that reason I think it appears foolish.

Not foolish at all. Growing your Team Base makes a lot of sense when the company and its properties are synonymous with your brand. We can speculate on the reason, but that's pointless. There's currently not outward negative apparent to it. Playground already makes games for Microsoft, as you noted. The acquisition is the next logical step.

To me it would make sense only if they invest a lot in the studio to increase it and the output, otherwise perhaps a 5 year contract would be better.



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Ryuu96 said:
Bandorr said:

And i'd consider the purchasing of Quantic dream to also be fairly foolish without reason. You are already getting the games, with no competition. So why spend time/money/effort on getting something you've already gotten.

Feels like there is a "reason" missing. Why now? Did they want to stop making Forza games (IE bungie). Did they want to go third party (like Remedy). Did another Company offer them something?

Then again what is the name of the studio that makes the other Forza games? Is that first party, or third party? Maybe Microsoft wants to combine them.

There is a reason - and without that reason I think it appears foolish.

They're getting the games but that doesn't mean they will always be getting the games that Playground creates, If Playground wanted to stop making Forza games then they would stop making Forza games, If they wanted to go 3rd party then they would go 3rd party, I think Playground clearly still enjoys making Horizon games as they didn't use that studio for Fable, they opened a brand new studio so that the 1st studio could continue making Horizon games.

It's possible another company offered them something and Microsoft has rights on outbidding them but I think this is simply a case of Microsoft securing it's future with Playground Games, they don't want to lose this great studio which is making both Forza & Fable and the longer they wait, the more expensive Playground become, the more competition Microsoft has, the more chance Microsoft loses one of their best partners.

Turn 10 makes Motorsport and yeah they're owned by Microsoft, Turn 10 is American and Playground Games is British, makes no sense to combine them, especially with Playground doing Fable as well.

Right those reasons make sense. So basically this  is more of a preventative measure. Prevent what happened to bungie. What kinda happened to remedy. Prevent other companies from sniffing around.

Gaining them isn't a bad thing. I just thought the money would be a waste. But using the money to prevent things in the future isn't a bad thing.

It is a cautionary play that prevents risk while gaining something in the process.

As a side note - did you actually watch Legends of tomorrow Season 3? Or did you just stumble upon that meme?



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Bandorr said:
Ryuu96 said:

They're getting the games but that doesn't mean they will always be getting the games that Playground creates, If Playground wanted to stop making Forza games then they would stop making Forza games, If they wanted to go 3rd party then they would go 3rd party, I think Playground clearly still enjoys making Horizon games as they didn't use that studio for Fable, they opened a brand new studio so that the 1st studio could continue making Horizon games.

It's possible another company offered them something and Microsoft has rights on outbidding them but I think this is simply a case of Microsoft securing it's future with Playground Games, they don't want to lose this great studio which is making both Forza & Fable and the longer they wait, the more expensive Playground become, the more competition Microsoft has, the more chance Microsoft loses one of their best partners.

Turn 10 makes Motorsport and yeah they're owned by Microsoft, Turn 10 is American and Playground Games is British, makes no sense to combine them, especially with Playground doing Fable as well.

Right those reasons make sense. So basically this  is more of a preventative measure. Prevent what happened to bungie. What kinda happened to remedy. Prevent other companies from sniffing around.

Gaining them isn't a bad thing. I just thought the money would be a waste. But using the money to prevent things in the future isn't a bad thing.

It is a cautionary play that prevents risk while gaining something in the process.

As a side note - did you actually watch Legends of tomorrow Season 3? Or did you just stumble upon that meme?

Yeah, I mean, I can see where you're coming from, If Microsoft had say a multi-year contract with Playground then buying them could be a little strange as Playground can't exactly break that contract but the longer they wait, the more expensive they will become and the chance of losing them as them contracts ends increases.

Though I believe the contracts that Microsoft has with Playground are only yearly renew contracts...

Off-Topic but yeah, I watched it



Bandorr said:
Ryuu96 said:

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Right those reasons make sense. So basically this  is more of a preventative measure. Prevent what happened to bungie. What kinda happened to remedy. Prevent other companies from sniffing around.

Gaining them isn't a bad thing. I just thought the money would be a waste. But using the money to prevent things in the future isn't a bad thing.

It is a cautionary play that prevents risk while gaining something in the process.

As a side note - did you actually watch Legends of tomorrow Season 3? Or did you just stumble upon that meme?

The preventative measures would make sense, though, especially with rising costs.

Edit: Same sentiments as Ryuu! Teamwork! ;P



                                                                                                                                            

Bandorr said:
CGI-Quality said:

Eh, nah. This is a logical acquisition. Very similar to the idea of Sony acquiring Quantic Dream. Of course they could strengthen the teams they already have, but I prefer this method of business over spending money on timed exclusive content. With it, we can get full IPs only for their brand (Xbox/Windows). 


And i'd consider the purchasing of Quantic dream to also be fairly foolish without reason. You are already getting the games, with no competition. So why spend time/money/effort on getting something you've already gotten.

Feels like there is a "reason" missing. Why now? Did they want to stop making Forza games (IE bungie). Did they want to go third party (like Remedy). Did another Company offer them something?

Then again what is the name of the studio that makes the other Forza games? Is that first party, or third party? Maybe Microsoft wants to combine them.

There is a reason - and without that reason I think it appears foolish.

Actually, the purchasing of quantic dream would be great. Sony would get to keep their advanced CG Tech for themselves.

Also, Sony and Quantic Dream had a three-game deal, which ends with Detroit. We don't even know if Quantic Dream will even make another PS exclusive.

And Playground recently opened a new studio to make an AAA RPG, something that Microsoft could really use to bolster their lineup.

edit- https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-11-23-playground-games-hires-gta-v-metal-gear-solid-and-hellblade-devs-for-open-world-action-rpg

they also acquired some devs from various places just recently. It's not just about racing games now.



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