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Premier League winner?

Liverpool 2 $200.22 22.22%
 
Manchester City 7 $3,356.75 77.78%
 
 
Totals: 9 $3,556.97  
Game closed: 05/11/2019
haxxiy said:
RolStoppable said:

In a three-way-tie, only the games between the tied teams count, so the results against South Korea are irrelevant. Let's suppose Sweden beats Mexico 1-0 and Germany beats South Korea, then the first tie-breaker will look like this:

T1. Germany - 3 points, 2-2 goals
T1. Sweden - 3, 2-2
3. Mexico - 3, 1-1

Germany wins the next tie-breaker because they beat Sweden; Mexico is eliminated. Now if Sweden won 2-1 against Mexico, it would look like this:

1. Sweden - 3 points, 3-3 goals
T2. Germany - 3, 2-2
T2. Mexico - 3, 2-2

Mexico would win the following tie-breaker in this scenario, so on second thought even a 1-2 loss would actually be fine for them. A Swedish win of 3-2, 4-3 etc. would put Sweden in first and Mexico in second on the first step of the tie-breaking procedure already. A Swedish win by two or more goals would put Sweden in first and Germany in second.

At least that's how it should work, unless FIFA uses a different system than UEFA in their tournaments. So no matter what, it's of no concern how high Germany wins against South Korea. And no matter what, Sweden will qualify for the round of 16 with a win on their own.

How high Germany wins against South Korea does matter, since total goals scored in all group matches it's one of the tie-breaking criteria, before checking whether Germany or Mexico won on their match, in the case they are tied.

Thus:

Ger 1 x 0 Kor / Swe 2 x 1 Mex: then Sweden is 1st, Mexico 2nd

But...

Ger 2 x 0 Kor or Ger 2 x 1 Kor / Swe 2 x 1 Mex: then Germany is 1st, Mexico 2nd

And as long as Germany scores more goals than Mexico on a victory over Korea with a margin of a single goal, it advances with any Sweden win by the same one goal margin.

But if Germany wins by two goals difference, then it is qualified no matter the result of Sweden x Mexico, since any result on this match, be it by a small or large margin, would disqualify either Sweden or Mexico while keeping Germany, for goal difference is the foremost criterium besides points.

This is confusing as hell... but I think this is correct.

I think the most likely scenario is Mexico and Germany getting in, with a tie in MEX-SWE and obviously a win for Germany. Hilariously enough, South Korea still chances to advance, as they can defeat the Germans 3-0 and depending on the result of the other match they could get in. Sounds next to impossible, and it is, but it could influence the score of their match against Germany, as South Korea could fight to maintain it as low as possible. 



My bet with The_Liquid_Laser: I think the Switch won't surpass the PS2 as the best selling system of all time. If it does, I'll play a game of a list that The_Liquid_Laser will provide, I will have to play it for 50 hours or complete it, whatever comes first. 

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From the FIFA page:

Here are the tie-break scenarios for rankings in the groups:
​Greatest number of points
Goal difference in all group matches
Goals scored in all group matches
If two or more teams are equal on the basis of the above three criteria, their rankings shall be determined as follows:
Greatest number of points obtained in the group matches between the teams concerned
Goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams concerned
Greater number of goals scored in all group matches between the teams concerned
Greater number of points obtained regarding fair play conduct (yellow cards = -1, indirect red card (as a result of a second yellow card) = -3, direct red card = -4, yellow card and direct red = -5, with only one of the deductions applied to a player in a single game)
Drawing of lots by FIFA



England vs Panama 3-0
Japan vs Senegal 1-3
Poland vs Colombia 0-2



England 2-1 Panama
Japan 1-3 Senegal
Poland 1-0 Colombia



England 2-0 Panama
Japan 1-2 Senegal
Poland 1-2 Colombia



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KLAMarine said:
Metallox said:

The typical "they won but didn't play so well". A win is a win but the performance doesn't bode so well for future matches. If they played like they did today against Croatia or Belgium (mentioning teams who are in great form right now), they'd lose 2/3-0. 

Yeah, Belgium is destroying.

Metallox said:

And Germany is falling apart, a shame. 

Suddenly beating Germany wasn't such an achievement...

And then suddenly it was again.. 

 

Anyway hoped on my plane home from Russia and it was 1 - 0 Sweden. Couldn't believe it when we landed and Germany had scored a last minute cracker. Fair play.

 

This world cup just keeps on giving. So many late goals it's crazy. 



KLAMarine said:
Metallox said:

The typical "they won but didn't play so well". A win is a win but the performance doesn't bode so well for future matches. If they played like they did today against Croatia or Belgium (mentioning teams who are in great form right now), they'd lose 2/3-0. 

Yeah, Belgium is destroying.

Metallox said:

And Germany is falling apart, a shame. 

Suddenly beating Germany wasn't such an achievement...

And then suddenly it was again.. 

 

Anyway hoped on my plane home from Russia and it was 1 - 0 Sweden. Couldn't believe it when we landed and Germany had scored a last minute cracker. Fair play.

 

This world cup just keeps on giving. So many late goals it's crazy. 



Good day good day. All three results correct and one score correct. Tomorrow;

England - Panama 2-0
Japan - Senegal 0-0
Poland - Colombia 2-1

EDIT: lol I really don’t know what to predict for Poland - Colombia, I edited from a Poland win to a Colombia win to a draw and back again.

Last edited by S.Peelman - on 23 June 2018

Thanks Kapi you are doing an excellent job running this prediction league just like Rol with the NFL.



Sweden were robbed in their World Cup match against Germany! Sweden had a clear penalty decision not awarded that clearly looked like penalty. Replay showed it was penalty but referees wanted Germany to win, so no penalty.

Last edited by Dark_Lord_2008 - on 24 June 2018