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Premier League winner?

Liverpool 2 $200.22 22.22%
 
Manchester City 7 $3,356.75 77.78%
 
 
Totals: 9 $3,556.97  
Game closed: 05/11/2019
mZuzek said:

Just watched the final, wow that game was electrifying!! Way better than those Senegal v Egypt drabs of a couple years back, amazing for Ivory Coast to win it like that, they played better throughout but they didn't let their heads dropped when Nigeria scored. And just the whole story with the whole manager thing, to see Drogba celebrating on the touchline, what a crazy ending

The whole tournament was like it was destined for them after their first game in knockout after they got rid of their manager. Well done to them.



Hmm, pie.

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Classis moment of football and american history:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c0o4J_Aibw&t=3104s



I have never seen a Premier League this shamelessly rigged. And I saw 21/22.

Fuck this bullshit league man



How can they possibly justify this. Really puts a dampener on a great game.



He got the ball, duh. It's not like sharp studs to the chest ever hurt anyone.

... maybe.



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mZuzek said:

I have never seen a Premier League this shamelessly rigged. And I saw 21/22.

Fuck this bullshit league man

To be completely honest, that's because you support a team that most often than not gets everything from the refs.



KiigelHeart said:
mZuzek said:

I have never seen a Premier League this shamelessly rigged. And I saw 21/22.

Fuck this bullshit league man

To be completely honest, that's because you support a team that most often than not gets everything from the refs.

+1 for the mistake at the weekend 

Last edited by pikashoe - on 12 March 2024

KiigelHeart said:
mZuzek said:

I have never seen a Premier League this shamelessly rigged. And I saw 21/22.

Fuck this bullshit league man

To be completely honest, that's because you support a team that most often than not gets everything from the refs.



Just looking through some of the controversial incidents surrounding Liverpool this season...

The ones that have favoured Liverpool were:

Szoboszlai's dive given as a penalty against Bournemouth when we beat them 3-1; Nkunku not given a penalty when Chelsea were down 3-1 at Anfield; A drop ball given to Liverpool against Nottingham Forest, from which they eventually scored like 2 minutes later, for some reason this one was a national outrage and people are still crying about it despite Forest benefitting from the exact same error earlier in the game and having multiple chances to clear the ball before they conceded.

The ones that went against Liverpool:

Mac Allister's ridiculous sending off against Bournemouth in the game we beat them 3-1.

Van Dijk's sending off against Newcastle. Maybe some people will agree with this but I still think he got the ball and barely made any contact with Isak. The ref didn't think for a second.

The Tottenham game. Remember Tottenham at this point were challenging for 1st place. Curtis Jones was sent off for a normal challenge. Luis Diaz gets a perfectly legal goal ruled out for a bullshit offside that VAR failed to correct. Salah is through on goal but is instead booked for a completely fair challenge. Diogo Jota gets booked for casually jogging near a Spurs player, and is then sent off for a second yellow for an admittedly reckless challenge but one with no contact. There were yet more controversial decisions in this game, like the non-penalty on Gomez or Robertson's booking, in what was easily the biggest robbery in Premier League history.

Quansah's penalty against Crystal Palace, a rather arguable call, 50-50 I'd say, far from being "clear and obvious", yet VAR decided to intervene and send the referee to the monitor over 2 minutes after the incident. We went on to win the game but that was ludicrous.

Odegaard's handball, need I say more? In truth had it been given, I'm not sure Liverpool would've gone on to win the game, but facts are facts, that was one of the most blatant penalties we've seen this season. And again in a title race match.

We had two very controversial goals ruled out against Burnley, the first one a Gakpo goal being ruled out by a very debatable foul by Nunez, and later an Elliott goal ruled out for a Salah offside when you could argue he didn't interfere with play in any way. Meanwhile, look at Man City's goal against Fulham...

The game against Manchester City just now... one of the clearest penalties you'll ever see, a high foot catching Mac Allister in the chest, Doku looked like a fucking karate player. Beyond that, I'd argue there should've been another penalty earlier for Aké on Salah, and Kyle Walker should've been sent off for a dangerous and reckless challenge that left Salah on the floor, of course no foul was given. Again, a title race match.

We also had one of the most ludicrous disallowed goals ever at the League Cup final, which came very close to literally deciding a title.

That's just this season. Had these decisions gone the right way, Liverpool would have 7 more points, while Arsenal and Manchester City would each have a point less. It could've been far worse if we weren't so good at overcoming adversity. Never mind how we're still level with Arsenal at the top of the table despite going through one of the worst injury crises in history. I remember reading an article detailing objective data about how often Liverpool gets paired with referees from Manchester, and how often they have controversial VAR calls in their games compared to other Premier League teams, and the difference was beyond staggering. Can't quite find it right now, though.

I'm sorry but anyone who genuinely believes Liverpool is favoured by referees is blinded by tribalism. We've been consistently fucked over by referees for as long as I've watched this game, barring a few exceptions (we did get a lot of iffy penalties in 13/14). We were robbed of a legitimate league title because of Rodri's handball in 21/22. I see PGMOL apologies left and right for anyone who plays against Manchester City, and Liverpool have already received 3 of their own this season, possibly a 4th one coming up this week. It's fucking insane how rigged this league is against us. In truth, Arsenal got fucked over too in their game against City, because obviously City is the team that's favoured. No wonder referees favour them after getting paid boatloads to officiate games in the UAE.

Anyways I'm done here, have a good week everyone.

Last edited by mZuzek - on 12 March 2024

mZuzek said:

Just looking through some of the controversial incidents surrounding Liverpool this season...

Van Dijk's sending off against Newcastle. Maybe some people will agree with this but I still think he got the ball and barely made any contact with Isak. The ref didn't think for a second.

Quansah's penalty against Crystal Palace, a rather arguable call, 50-50 I'd say, far from being "clear and obvious", yet VAR decided to intervene and send the referee to the monitor over 2 minutes after the incident. We went on to win the game but that was ludicrous.

Man City game - Beyond that, I'd argue there should've been another penalty earlier for Aké on Salah

We also had one of the most ludicrous disallowed goals ever at the League Cup final, which came very close to literally deciding a title.

That's just this season. Had these decisions gone the right way, Liverpool would have 7 more points, while Arsenal and Manchester City would each have a point less. It could've been far worse if we weren't so good at overcoming adversity. Never mind how we're still level with Arsenal at the top of the table despite going through one of the worst injury crises in history. I remember reading an article detailing objective data about how often Liverpool gets paired with referees from Manchester, and how often they have controversial VAR calls in their games compared to other Premier League teams, and the difference was beyond staggering. Can't quite find it right now, though.

I'm sorry but anyone who genuinely believes Liverpool is favoured by referees is blinded by tribalism. We've been consistently fucked over by referees for as long as I've watched this game, barring a few exceptions (we did get a lot of iffy penalties in 13/14). We were robbed of a legitimate league title because of Rodri's handball in 21/22. I see PGMOL apologies left and right for anyone who plays against Manchester City, and Liverpool have already received 3 of their own this season, possibly a 4th one coming up this week. It's fucking insane how rigged this league is against us. In truth, Arsenal got fucked over too in their game against City, because obviously City is the team that's favoured. No wonder referees favour them after getting paid boatloads to officiate games in the UAE.

Anyways I'm done here, have a good week everyone.

Liverpool fan here as you know. I think the ones you've quoted as going against us that I've left bolded in your quote above were the correct decision, or are not particularly controversial.

Also, some other decisions that went for us off the top of my head - Konate second booking against Everton, and Newcastle penalty claim when it was 3-2 at Anfield, just before Jota wins a very soft penalty at the other end.

Also, you can't equate incorrect decisions with points. If we got that pen in the last minute on Sunday, I wouldn't bank on Salah scoring if he took it. The penalty claim against Arsenal was when we were losing 1-0 if I recall correctly (let me know if I'm wrong here) - all that means is we score earlier that we eventually did (if we did in fact score the penalty). Then the rest of the half plays out completely differently to how it actually did - we'll never know what may have happened there.

We'll never know what would have happened in the Spurs game, as it was so skewed by awful decisions. I'd have fancied us to beat them based on their struggles against us with 10 and then 9 men, but still, it's all conjecture.

You can't whittle down a lost title to one incorrect decision in a match our rival played in 2021/2022. How do we know Everton score the penalty? How do we know that City don't go up the other end and score again if Everton do score?

Look on any footy team's message board, and it'll likely be full of fans moaning that their teams are hard done by, and that other teams / their rivals get all the decisions. Perhaps it's because I don't care as much as I used to, but although I believe there will be some refs who may be susceptible to bias and corruption, I don't think there's some agenda to screw us out of the title. Many fans believe it's the opposite, and that they want to give Klopp the fairytale send off. And people will pick and choose examples to support a narrative.

That said, some of the refs going off and officiating games in the country that bankrolls City is dodgy as fuck. Also worth pointing out is that a big part of the problem is that the refs in general are just fucking awful.