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How hyped are you for Nintendo's E3?

10 (Hype levels over 9000!) 28 20.14%
 
9 (Pretty Hyped) 21 15.11%
 
8 (Moderately Hyped) 27 19.42%
 
7 (Cautiously Hyped) 18 12.95%
 
6 (Not quite there yet) 10 7.19%
 
5 (Unsure) 3 2.16%
 
4 (Not Very) 7 5.04%
 
3 (Meh) 8 5.76%
 
2 (Not hyped) 7 5.04%
 
1 (NintenDOOOMED!) 10 7.19%
 
Total:139
Nautilus on 12 June 2018
Wyrdness said:
Nautilus said:

Im assuming it.Then how are you defining it to be an enhanced port, or not exactly a new game?Just because the roster sint brand new?

I said new iteration in other words a new game where are you reading that I said it's a port? You're getting arguments mixed up here.

I must have misunderstood you then.Im sorry



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

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Nautilus on 12 June 2018
Hiku said:
Nautilus said:

Assuming there is enough new content to justify it being a new game, I dont agree with you at all.Just to give a quick example:Majoras Mask was almost a reskin of OOT and that was a new game, or sequel, in every aspect of the word.Ill post the same thing I posted for Wyrdness:

Im sorry, but I dont agree with you at all.I dont see a game being new or old(new game or "iteration") being dependant of what assets it uses and what engine it uses.

Lets agree to disagree on this.

My very first sentence was "not every new game in a series uses a brand new engine, and the amount of assets they reuse can vary whether it is an enhanced port, or a brand new game."
Yet you sound as if I didn't even mention that when you say you disagree with me and give Majora as an example. And that's not the case. I'm well aware of cases like Majora's Mask, which is why I said that. But I also explained why I don't consider this as much of a new Smash as an enhanced port.
Guilty Gear Xrd: Revelator has new characters, new and rebalanced moves, new stages, new mechanics,etc. But it is considered an upgrade to GG Xrd, rather than a brand new game. 

You're free to have your own definition of what a brand new Smash would entail. But it's definitely not as clear cut as pointing to one game and saying "look at that. Case closed."
There's definitely a grey area here, as I said. You don't seem to disagree with that, but you're making it sound as if you are.

So what is you definition of what constitutes as a new Smash, vs what could be an enhanced port?
The only thing I can think of is that this is the first new console Smash where they're seemingly not building a new engine, or focusing on new stages and new characters.

Whatever you want to label it as though, that's just semantics.
When people like me said they wanted a Smash 4 Deluxe, this is exactly what I wanted.

Here, if you still had any doubts:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/06/12/e3-2018-super-smash-bros-ultimate-is-an-entirely-new-game-bandai-namco-still-involved?abthid=5b1ffd6a5e99c41d36000119

Its fair that you think its more of an enhanced port rather than a new game, as long as you know thats not a fact.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

irstupid on 12 June 2018
Shiken said:
flashfire926 said:
Microsoft won E3 by a landslide this year. What a shame.

With what?  All those games I will have on my PS4?

E3 conference is about presentation. Microsofts was more entertaining and well put together.

Both conferences showed multiplats that both systems will have yes. If you want to get technical, one could argue that they will all run better on the xbox one x, so point for Microsoft in that regard, or else if you don't care about that, they tie.

As for exclusives, Microsoft showed off more exclusives in their conference than Sony did. +1 point there. Whether you like Spiderman or Halo more is opinion and thus needs to be put in check.

As for new games shown off, what did Sony show? Uh, Nioh 2, and maybe one could say RE2. But Microsoft had way more new surprises. Halo, Forza, Gears for quick. Sure you may say that's like saying Nintendo showed Zelda, Mario or something. But doesn't matter if excpected, it was a new showing. Sony's four big games were all shown at last years e3, and 3 of the 4 will be shown at next years e3.

Microsofts conference was well planned, organized, excecuted, ect. Sony's had a weird intermission, and I feel was lacking something by not having anyone talk between some of the trailers. It was basically like watching someones E3 trailers playlist on Youtube. I came to watch the game, not the highlight reel. I'm there for the whole experience. The good, the bad, the cringe, the surprises, the let downs, the expected, ect. Like wataching the Superbowl (which many say E3 is gamings Superbowl) I want to watch the commercials, the pre-game, the halftime show, ect. Sony's conference let me down in that regard. The intermission felt like a halftime with no show. The actual show as I said felt like a highlight reel versus watching the actual game.

And in the same regard as Sports. How fun is the Superbowl if someone spoils the game for you. Say you recorded it cause busy and then hear the score before you can watch. That's how I feel when people say Sony won because of games and say who cares how shitty conference was. To me that is like hearing the score of a game or just watching the highlights and not actually seeing the game. You lose a huge part of the experience. Imagine if your team was in the Superbowl and you didn't watch the game but went to bed. The next day you wake up and watch the minute highilights and who won on the news. Compare that to sitting with friends and watching the superbowl through the ups and downs and celebrating or lamenting on the outcome. Which do you think will stick with you longer and will enjoy more in years to come as a fond memory? Regardless of the outcome, the second scenario will be better.



Chaimo on 12 June 2018
Shiken said:
flashfire926 said:
Microsoft won E3 by a landslide this year. What a shame.

With what?  All those games I will have on my PS4?

If you see the Press Conferences as Shows, Microsofts was simply better than Sony, it was more fast-paced, had more variation in Games.

If you like the PS4 more than the Xbox One and rate the confrences after your personal taste, then yeah, Sony was better.

edit: irstupid was faster



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Nautilus on 12 June 2018
Hiku said:
Nautilus said:

Here, if you still had any doubts:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/06/12/e3-2018-super-smash-bros-ultimate-is-an-entirely-new-game-bandai-namco-still-involved?abthid=5b1ffd6a5e99c41d36000119

Its fair that you think its more of an enhanced port rather than a new game, as long as you know thats not a fact.

Thanks, but PR is not what we're talking about here.
Do you want a link to Nintendo saying that Switch (NX) isn't a successor/replacement for WiiU? Like they said about DS in regards to GBA before that?
Nintendo will market this in the way that's most advantageous for them.
I'm questioning if this is the first time they did not develop a new engine for a Smash game. 

You can also label it any way you want, as long as you know that it, and PR, is not fact either.

Nice, now you are moving goalposts.I think I have made myself more than clear, and personal feelings aside, people will realize what type of game this is with the passing of time, wether it is by Nintendo announcing what other stuffs there are in their new game, or just by gamers finally getting their hands on the game itself come december.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

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irstupid on 12 June 2018
Nautilus said:
Hiku said:

My very first sentence was "not every new game in a series uses a brand new engine, and the amount of assets they reuse can vary whether it is an enhanced port, or a brand new game."
Yet you sound as if I didn't even mention that when you say you disagree with me and give Majora as an example. And that's not the case. I'm well aware of cases like Majora's Mask, which is why I said that. But I also explained why I don't consider this as much of a new Smash as an enhanced port.
Guilty Gear Xrd: Revelator has new characters, new and rebalanced moves, new stages, new mechanics,etc. But it is considered an upgrade to GG Xrd, rather than a brand new game. 

You're free to have your own definition of what a brand new Smash would entail. But it's definitely not as clear cut as pointing to one game and saying "look at that. Case closed."
There's definitely a grey area here, as I said. You don't seem to disagree with that, but you're making it sound as if you are.

So what is you definition of what constitutes as a new Smash, vs what could be an enhanced port?
The only thing I can think of is that this is the first new console Smash where they're seemingly not building a new engine, or focusing on new stages and new characters.

Whatever you want to label it as though, that's just semantics.
When people like me said they wanted a Smash 4 Deluxe, this is exactly what I wanted.

Here, if you still had any doubts:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/06/12/e3-2018-super-smash-bros-ultimate-is-an-entirely-new-game-bandai-namco-still-involved?abthid=5b1ffd6a5e99c41d36000119

Its fair that you think its more of an enhanced port rather than a new game, as long as you know thats not a fact.

Just ignore him and others and move on. Don't get into the endless argument like people do about whether the Switch is a console or a handheld.

Smash is a new game, the Switch is a hybrid. End of story.

But you will never convince those that want to say otherwise. 



Wyrdness on 12 June 2018

Free roaming Fire Emblem in full 3d, when adding the features of recent games as well this will be an interesting experience for a series that was due to be killed off not long ago.



Ultrashroomz on 12 June 2018

CAN WE TAKE THE TIME TO RECOGNIZE THAT THESE TWO CAN FIGHT IN A NINTENDO GAME?



"Just for comparison Uncharted 4 was 20x bigger than Splatoon 2. This shows the huge difference between Sony's first-party games and Nintendo's first-party games."

Green098 on 12 June 2018

Fortnite on Switch gameplay on Treehouse



Shiken on 12 June 2018
irstupid said:
Shiken said:

With what?  All those games I will have on my PS4?

E3 conference is about presentation. Microsofts was more entertaining and well put together.

Both conferences showed multiplats that both systems will have yes. If you want to get technical, one could argue that they will all run better on the xbox one x, so point for Microsoft in that regard, or else if you don't care about that, they tie.

As for exclusives, Microsoft showed off more exclusives in their conference than Sony did. +1 point there. Whether you like Spiderman or Halo more is opinion and thus needs to be put in check.

As for new games shown off, what did Sony show? Uh, Nioh 2, and maybe one could say RE2. But Microsoft had way more new surprises. Halo, Forza, Gears for quick. Sure you may say that's like saying Nintendo showed Zelda, Mario or something. But doesn't matter if excpected, it was a new showing. Sony's four big games were all shown at last years e3, and 3 of the 4 will be shown at next years e3.

Microsofts conference was well planned, organized, excecuted, ect. Sony's had a weird intermission, and I feel was lacking something by not having anyone talk between some of the trailers. It was basically like watching someones E3 trailers playlist on Youtube. I came to watch the game, not the highlight reel. I'm there for the whole experience. The good, the bad, the cringe, the surprises, the let downs, the expected, ect. Like wataching the Superbowl (which many say E3 is gamings Superbowl) I want to watch the commercials, the pre-game, the halftime show, ect. Sony's conference let me down in that regard. The intermission felt like a halftime with no show. The actual show as I said felt like a highlight reel versus watching the actual game.

And in the same regard as Sports. How fun is the Superbowl if someone spoils the game for you. Say you recorded it cause busy and then hear the score before you can watch. That's how I feel when people say Sony won because of games and say who cares how shitty conference was. To me that is like hearing the score of a game or just watching the highlights and not actually seeing the game. You lose a huge part of the experience. Imagine if your team was in the Superbowl and you didn't watch the game but went to bed. The next day you wake up and watch the minute highilights and who won on the news. Compare that to sitting with friends and watching the superbowl through the ups and downs and celebrating or lamenting on the outcome. Which do you think will stick with you longer and will enjoy more in years to come as a fond memory? Regardless of the outcome, the second scenario will be better.

The big 4 was what I cared about, and the gameplay footage was phenomenal.

 

A Halo teaser with no gameplay is nothing special.  A Forza teaser with no gameplay is nothing special.  And Crackdown 3 has been talked about since the X1's conception, so again, nothing special.  Gears should have ended with 3, now they are just dragging it on to the point where it is almost as stale as Halo.

 

I do not watch E3 for entertainment, I watch for news and gameplay previews of upcoming games.  MS conference gave me NO reason to turn on my X1 for new games anytime soon.  They did show me many games that I will play on my PS4 though.

 

Nintendo gave us a lot on Smash.  While it was disappointing, at least it is something I am looking forward to.

 

Sony showed gameplay footage of not one, not two, but 3 games that look phenomenal, coming soon, and can be played no where else.

 

So in terms of selling me on their product...

 

Sony landslide victory

Nintendo distant second

MS dead last

 

Had MS shown a new IP or a revived Scalebound with Fable 4, it would be different for me.  Instead, they gave me the same old crap.  Opinions matter and differ from person to person,  but for me, MS came nowhere close to delivering.



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