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How Much Will Solo Make WW?

Under $700M 56 60.87%
 
$700M-$800M 18 19.57%
 
$801M-$900M 12 13.04%
 
$901M-$1B 3 3.26%
 
Over $1B 3 3.26%
 
Total:92
The Fury said:
The film was okay but played on nostalgia too much again. Here's how Han got his name, here's how Han got his gun, here's how Han got the Millenium Falcon, here's how he met Chewie. etc The good bits were those that were 'new', the 2 side characters near the start, the sassy droid, the villain but there wasn't enough of it.

I mean its supposed to be Han´s origin story you kinda have to put those things in. 



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Carl said:
So apparently Kelly Marie Tran was harassed off of Instagram.

https://twitter.com/NicholasJLevi/status/1003766882497892355?s=19

Star Wars "fans".

That guy is an idiot.

https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0159789/filmotype/actor?ref_=m_nmfm_1



Mcube said:

I mean its supposed to be Han´s origin story you kinda have to put those things in. 

It's a gun, he never made a big deal about it in the original films, did anyone care? 

Also, the side people at the end and the plight, you know, we are 'Allies' and 'Rebellion'  bleh bleh. Too much. Oh and here's Warwick Davis.



Hmm, pie.

The Fury said:
Mcube said:

I mean its supposed to be Han´s origin story you kinda have to put those things in. 

It's a gun, he never made a big deal about it in the original films, did anyone care? 

Also, the side people at the end and the plight, you know, we are 'Allies' and 'Rebellion'  bleh bleh. Too much. Oh and here's Warwick Davis.

Not really talking about the gun part i didnt care about that. More how he got the milenium falcon, how he got his name and how he met Chewie would be weird if they didnt put that stuff in.



Carl said:
So apparently Kelly Marie Tran was harassed off of Instagram.

https://twitter.com/NicholasJLevi/status/1003766882497892355?s=19

Star Wars "fans".

Not just her Daisy Ridley aswell its a big joke at this point it´s grown ass men getting upset about their by a franchise thats supposed to appeal to every sci fi fan young and adult and litereally spoiling the fun for everyone. I´ve never been a big star wars fan so i cant really be bothered but if a girl who likes these movies tries to follow any of the cast members all the comments are just hate speech at this point. 



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NightDragon83 said:

'Solo' Will Lose $50M-Plus in First Defeat for Disney's 'Star Wars' Empire

Lucasfilm's stand-alone Han Solo origin pic is faltering at the global box office, where it is expected to top out in the $400 million range.

To borrow one of Han Solo's lines from Star Wars: The Force Awakens, "That's not how the Force works!"

It's an apt way to sum up the troubled performance of Solo: A Star Wars Story. In one of the biggest box-office surprises in recent times, Solo is badly underperforming and will become the first of the Star Wars movies made by Disney and Lucasfilm to lose money.

Wall Street analyst Barton Crockett says Solo will lose more than $50 million. Industry financing sources, however, say that figure could come in at $80 million or higher, although no one knows the exact terms of Disney's deals for home entertainment and television, among other ancillary revenues.

Solo, directed by Ron Howard, isn't likely to gross much more than $400 million globally against a budget of at least $250 million and a major multimillion-dollar marketing spend. The movie lost major altitude in its second weekend of play to finish Sunday with a domestic total of $148.9 million and a global cume of $264.2 million.

***Read more at:  https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/solo-will-post-first-loss-disneys-star-wars-empire-1116927

Well that about wraps it up... we officially have the first ever Star Wars bomb at the BO.  Thanks Kathleen Kennedy!

Is anyone honestly even looking forward to Episode IX at this point?  Because I sure as hell ain't.  It's going to be a very interesting next 18 months for this franchise, I'm curious to see if any other of the proposed "spinoff" movies get axed and if any shakeups come at Lucasfilm / the House of Mouse.

Edit:  Also, reason #9,872 why Solo was so bad... according to this post on Wired, that Darth Maul cameo (oh sorry, SPOILER ALERT for the two of you who care!) at the end of the film as the big baddie reveal was apparently a last minute decision by co-writer and nepotism beneficiary Jonathan Kasdan because - get this - Darth Maul was his favorite character in the Prequels.  I kid you not!  Oh, and also there's a "Women of the Galaxy" book coming out featuring an all-female cast of SW characters spotlighted by women and "non-binary" artists, because we need that apparently.  No Mara Jade of course, since she and all the other interesting EU characters that fans love have been banished to the netherworld.

https://www.wired.com/story/cantina-talk-61/

That's some very poor math on their part.  Only $50M?  If it lands at ~$400M WW, that's a loss of ~$50M on just the production budget alone.  But, it's probably ~$150M with marketing thrown in.  As for streaming and TV deals, those are going to cost companies much less to get when they are getting a flop.

Carl said:
So apparently Kelly Marie Tran was harassed off of Instagram.

https://twitter.com/NicholasJLevi/status/1003766882497892355?s=19

Star Wars "fans".

OH MY GOD!!  Are you saying someone got attacked on social media?  Stop the presses. 

Please, normal everyday people get harassed on social media everyday.  Hell, so do celebrities.  You know what they do?  Either they ignore it, respond to it, or block/report the people.  They don't turn all snowflake and leave, just so they can have another crybaby story to tell the media about the fanbase that already made clear they hate.



Mcube said:
The Fury said:

It's a gun, he never made a big deal about it in the original films, did anyone care? 

Also, the side people at the end and the plight, you know, we are 'Allies' and 'Rebellion'  bleh bleh. Too much. Oh and here's Warwick Davis.

Not really talking about the gun part i didnt care about that. More how he got the milenium falcon, how he got his name and how he met Chewie would be weird if they didnt put that stuff in.

How he got his name?  How about he was just born with it.  Instead, they, yet again, bring our world into theirs by saying that he's solo.  In the OG trilogy, no one said a damn thing about his name, which made it seem like a normal name.  Now, it's a made up name some recruiter gave him because he was alone?  As many have pointed out, SW no longer feels like a galaxy far, far away.  Feels more like its just a movie that takes place in Earth's future.



thismeintiel said:
Mcube said:

Not really talking about the gun part i didnt care about that. More how he got the milenium falcon, how he got his name and how he met Chewie would be weird if they didnt put that stuff in.

How he got his name?  How about he was just born with it.  Instead, they, yet again, bring our world into theirs by saying that he's solo.  In the OG trilogy, no one said a damn thing about his name, which made it seem like a normal name.  Now, it's a made up name some recruiter gave him because he was alone?  As many have pointed out, SW no longer feels like a galaxy far, far away.  Feels more like its just a movie that takes place in Earth's future.

I dont get your logic that just the way he was named makes it feel like earth but fine I guess. George Lucas´s reason for naming Han ´Solo´ was because he was a loner. Its a boring the way he got it but Lucas had this reason first. 



Mcube said:
thismeintiel said:

How he got his name?  How about he was just born with it.  Instead, they, yet again, bring our world into theirs by saying that he's solo.  In the OG trilogy, no one said a damn thing about his name, which made it seem like a normal name.  Now, it's a made up name some recruiter gave him because he was alone?  As many have pointed out, SW no longer feels like a galaxy far, far away.  Feels more like its just a movie that takes place in Earth's future.

I dont get your logic that just the way he was named makes it feel like earth but fine I guess. George Lucas´s reason for naming Han ´Solo´ was because he was a loner. Its a boring the way he got it but Lucas had this reason first. 

That is why he named him.  But, that was just his last name.  There wasn't some weak explanation about how he got it.  And like I said, in the OG trilogy, no one made a face or comment about it, meaning it was a pretty normal last name in that galaxy.  Them having a recruiter give it to him, meaning it wasn't just a normal last name, and using the word solo (which I don't think has been used in the franchise, except when to refer to Han's last name), takes it out of that galaxy and into ours.  Same goes for the politics they put into the last two films.  Hell, Rian Johnson even thought it would be an awesome reveal to have the camera move over some near the end of Ep 9 and we find out it is current day USA while the events of Ep 9 was happening.  They are taking it out of the "a long time ago and in a galaxy far, far away."

Last edited by thismeintiel - on 05 June 2018

thismeintiel said:
Mcube said:

I dont get your logic that just the way he was named makes it feel like earth but fine I guess. George Lucas´s reason for naming Han ´Solo´ was because he was a loner. Its a boring the way he got it but Lucas had this reason first. 

That is why he named him.  But, that was just his last name.  There wasn't some weak explanation about how he got it.  And like I said, in the OG trilogy, no one made a face or comment about it, meaning it was a pretty normal last name in that galaxy.  Them having a recruiter give it to him, meaning it wasn't just a normal last name, and using the word solo (which I don't think has been used in the franchise, except when to refer to Han's last name), takes it out of that galaxy and into ours.  Same goes for the politics they put into the last two films.  Hell, Rian Johnson even thought it would be an awesome reveal to have the camera move over some near the end of Ep 9 and we find out it is current day USA while the events of Ep 9 was happening.  They are taking it out of the "a long time ago and in a galaxy far, far away."

The worst part is I think this is far more likely than getting another 'good' Star Wars film. I will say the politicking in TLJ is really hard to ignore, but if they were to end up doing this it would be at the forefront, at which point Star Wars would be forever dead with all films coming before it then irrelevant.