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How Much Will Solo Make WW?

Under $700M 56 60.87%
 
$700M-$800M 18 19.57%
 
$801M-$900M 12 13.04%
 
$901M-$1B 3 3.26%
 
Over $1B 3 3.26%
 
Total:92
Mandalore76 said:
Nymeria said:

The issue with many business decisions is the short terms gains benefit the people making such decisions, while long term plans benefit the future.  Star Wars appeal was it was an event for many.  Now? It's just another major release within a sea of them.  The idea that a Han Solo movie would lose to a Deadpool movie just four years ago would have been unthinkable.

I think a knock on effect will be other studios will no longer fear Star Wars. It use to be you avoided going up against such a cinematic juggernaut and gave it the first two weeks to dominate. Now I could see another studio putting a major release the same weekend as Obi Wan or Boba Fett movie to see if they can beat it.

No, they will respect the Fett.

 



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Angelus said:
Nymeria said:

The issue with many business decisions is the short terms gains benefit the people making such decisions, while long term plans benefit the future.  Star Wars appeal was it was an event for many.  Now? It's just another major release within a sea of them.  The idea that a Han Solo movie would lose to a Deadpool movie just four years ago would have been unthinkable.

I think a knock on effect will be other studios will no longer fear Star Wars. It use to be you avoided going up against such a cinematic juggernaut and gave it the first two weeks to dominate. Now I could see another studio putting a major release the same weekend as Obi Wan or Boba Fett movie to see if they can beat it.

Don't forget how well Jumanji did right around TLJ release as well. Star Wars definitely will be facing more competition moving forward

Yep. Jumanji released one week after TLJ and completely trounced it in Jan. 



Solo did $4.42M on Thu. Its total DBO take is $119.59M. This is 46.1% down from RO for the same point in time. If this holds, Solo will make $286.85M. If the FBO percentage holds, it will make $484.54M WW.



thismeintiel said:

Solo did $4.42M on Thu. Its total DBO take is $119.59M. This is 46.1% down from RO for the same point in time. If this holds, Solo will make $286.85M. If the FBO percentage holds, it will make $484.54M WW.

Just read second weekend is estimated at 28m which brings it 48% down from RO. 



Mr Puggsly said:
Mr.Playstation said:

What SJW nonsense? 

I googled it and the only things that come up are a diverse cast and that Washington Monument joke. Not even close to being SJW.

I think the movie was pretty overt in what it was doing. MJ is an SJW and the cast was also very diverse for the sake of pandering. But in retrospect it wasn't actually that bad, perhaps just noticing these things left an impression on me. it certainly wasn't as bad as Black Panther which was nearing insufferable.

Peter is high school in New York. If the cast wasn't diverse it would be suspect. That's confirmation bias. The whole MJ thing bugs me because people still think she's Mary Jane. She's not. I loved the Spiderman cartoon in the 90s but it's warped peoples perception of when Mary Jane enters Peter's life. He dates her after Gwen Stacy dies. She may be his most famous love interest but she wasn't his first.



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Main thing is the curse of the OT still hangs over these sequel movies because if you try and do anything different with one of the beloved characters, you will get angry backlash.

The "womenz r too strong!!!" stuff I don't buy as something the actual *general*, *normal*, audience really gives a fuck about ... The Force Awakens was a massive success with monstrous repeat viewings, domestically in its in the Avatar/Titanic tier which is impossible to get into unless you have massive repeat business. And people won't go see a movie several times these days unless they REALLY like it. It's $12-$15 a ticket these days + an arm and a leg for popcorn and soda. Rogue One was also massively successful with a lead female and a very diverse cast. So that isn't that issue IMO. Solo has a white lead, a suitably "supporting female role" who is clearly secondary, and has basically no politics (the Lando stuff is a laughable non-story) in it and is not doing well.

That stuff is not impacting box office. TFA is a happier, funnier movie and Han Solo is basically Han Solo so there's not much to complain about with it. TLJ was always going to be controversial because of the handling of Luke, which shocked even Mark Hamil and Daisy Ridley the first time they read the script. That's the main issue with TLJ ... they went too dark/controversial with Luke and that was too risky of a direction. They should've just given the fans the more predictable "Luke trains Rey, gets a very heroic send off".

The other problem is "mopey Luke" basically ends up taking over the 3rd act of the movie, so your heroine from the 1st movie (Rey) has nothing to really do but ... lift rocks? It doesn't work, to have the "disillusioned Luke storyline" they basically put Rey's story on hold for an entire movie, movie should've reunited Rey/Finn/Poe much earlier. It's the end of the 2nd movie and Rey is just now meeting Poe? That would be like Luke just meeting Leia at the end of ESB.

You can't take risks with legacy characters, that's just the bottom line, TLJ bet everything on that concept, and while I personally found it some what interesting in a "what if?" kind of expanded universe way, it just wasn't worth it to do that in a movie. Sometimes it's just better to play it safe, Star Wars is not art anymore (if it ever was), it's just a comfort blanket product and you can't mess with certain things.



And the hits keep coming. Larger drop than should be expected.



A 66% drop is devastating for a movie that made 84 million its first weekend.



I like how Lucasfilm employees are continuing to double down with insulting fans in spite of this failure.



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Azuren said:
I like how Lucasfilm employees are continuing to double down with insulting fans in spite of this failure.

Seriously? Do you have a source showing them doing that? I want to take a look.