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How Much Will Solo Make WW?

Under $700M 56 60.87%
 
$700M-$800M 18 19.57%
 
$801M-$900M 12 13.04%
 
$901M-$1B 3 3.26%
 
Over $1B 3 3.26%
 
Total:92
areason said:
I wasn't going to watch it due to no jedi, then i found out that Solo is a pansexual, so yeah not gonna bother.

Han Solo isn't a pansexual its Lando Calrissan the guy wears a cape that is pretty much a dead giveaway.



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WolfpackN64 said:
I want to watch it, but it's exam season, so I can't see it in theather.
It'll do ok, because it's Star Wars. TLJ did nothing to damage Star Wars, that's just a fiction of the vocal minority.

I totally disagree with you there. 

Mark my words:  Ep IX will be lucky if it does EVEN HALF the numbers that the TLJ did.



TLJ killed my interest in the Star Wars universe. So I'm just not interested in seeing SOLO.

I guess many people feel the same.



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Acevil said:
areason said:

Disney aren't laughing, mark my words they are disappointed over not meeting their projections.

Pretty sure, between the movies, merchandise, licensing agreements, and the soon to launch star wars land, they will have more than made returns on their purchase and gain bigger threshold of the marketplace/increased revenue/increased profits, which enforces their bottom line. They were 3-5th before 2010, and ever since TFA (started this journey) they have now had huge lead at first in total market share. 

So yes, I do imagine Disney is laughing to the bank. 

So what? If a project fails to meets it's goals it doesn't matter if it made a profit, it's still a disappointment.

The shareholders will not be overjoyed that they expected X amount in returns and got less then that. 



Carl said:
areason said:

No it isn't.

While you can argue that TFA had the advantage of being the first star wars movie in a long time, and didn't have the disadvantage of a bad prequel, TLJ also had the hype of the return of Luke, as well as the advantage of not being an introduction to a new trilogy. 

Luke's return was also a huge part of the hype surrounding Force Awakens. He was a focus in the trailer, he was the focus of the story and he was doing press before the films release. Fans were completely expecting him to have a significant role and TFA completely blew that hype with the lackluster ending.

However, that's not what I take issue with.

I take issue with pointing at The Last Jedi's box office total as some kind of "proof" that it was a poorly received movie that damaged the franchise. It did over $1.3 Billion worldwide and was the 9th highest grossing movie of all time before Black Panther and Infinity War passed it just recently. It managed this despite another Billion dollar movie releasing shortly after in Jumanji. It was a massively successful movie, eclipsing the other high budget releases of 2017 like Beauty and the Beast and Fate of the Furious.

As a side note, The Last Jedi has flaws, many of them, but I think the hyperbole on internet forums about how it's ruined the franchise is pathetic. 

You do realize that Jumanji had a poor opening, right?  It didn't even hit $90M WW, hitting just $85.7M.  Normally, that would have meant a flop for a movie with a $90M budget, as it needed $180M just to break even on the production budget alone (probably $280M-$350M with the ad budget included), and its all down hill from opening week.  You know why it blew up instead of flopping?  Because TLJ blew.  If TLJ was actually good, it would have ate up and spit out Jumanji.  Instead, disgruntled fans and disappointed movie goers needed something else to see.  Jumanji was that film.  Jumanji made more in Jan than TLJ, and not by a little.  At the DBO, it outperformed it by $77.2M.  Hell, Jumanji lasted longer in the theater than TLJ did. But, then again, so did the spinoff, RO.

You can stick your fingers in your ears, close your eyes, and shout at the top of your lungs, but that doesn't change the fact that there was a fan backlash.  It happened.  Accept it.



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Carl said:
areason said:

No it isn't.

While you can argue that TFA had the advantage of being the first star wars movie in a long time, and didn't have the disadvantage of a bad prequel, TLJ also had the hype of the return of Luke, as well as the advantage of not being an introduction to a new trilogy. 

Luke's return was also a huge part of the hype surrounding Force Awakens. He was a focus in the trailer, he was the focus of the story and he was doing press before the films release. Fans were completely expecting him to have a significant role and TFA completely blew that hype with the lackluster ending.

However, that's not what I take issue with.

I take issue with pointing at The Last Jedi's box office total as some kind of "proof" that it was a poorly received movie that damaged the franchise. It did over $1.3 Billion worldwide and was the 9th highest grossing movie of all time before Black Panther and Infinity War passed it just recently. It managed this despite another Billion dollar movie releasing shortly after in Jumanji. It was a massively successful movie, eclipsing the other high budget releases of 2017 like Beauty and the Beast and Fate of the Furious.

As a side note, The Last Jedi has flaws, many of them, but I think the hyperbole on internet forums about how it's ruined the franchise is pathetic. 

 If the movie had the potential and was projected to make more then TFA, or at least come near it then it is a flop if it under shoots.

Call of Duty: Infinity Warfare sold a lot, but for a Call of Duty game it undersold. It doesn't matter if it was the best selling game of the year , it still performed poorly for a COD game. 



I saw Solo last night and in my opinion as a stupidly obsessed SW fan it was the best film in the franchise since The Empire Strikes Back.

I will obviously caveat that with it being subject to change on a second/third viewing, but I was definitely incredibly impressed with this film. If it was the clusterfuck they claimed at some point, Ron Howard certainly turned it around.



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thismeintiel said:

You do realize that Jumanji had a poor opening, right?  It didn't even hit $90M WW, hitting just $85.7M.  Normally, that would have meant a flop for a movie with a $90M budget, as it needed $180M just to break even on the production budget alone (probably $280M-$350M with the ad budget included), and its all down hill from opening week.  You know why it blew up instead of flopping?  Because TLJ blew.  If TLJ was actually good, it would have ate up and spit out Jumanji.  Instead, disgruntled fans and disappointed movie goers needed something else to see.  Jumanji was that film.  Jumanji made more in Jan than TLJ, and not by a little.  At the DBO, it outperformed it by $77.2M.  Hell, Jumanji lasted longer in the theater than TLJ did. But, then again, so did the spinoff, RO.

You can stick your fingers in your ears, close your eyes, and shout at the top of your lungs, but that doesn't change the fact that there was a fan backlash.  It happened.  Accept it.

I don't think anyone is denying that there was a fan backlash from vocal minorites on the internet.

areason said:

 If the movie had the potential and was projected to make more then TFA, or at least come near it then it is a flop if it under shoots.

Call of Duty: Infinity Warfare sold a lot, but for a Call of Duty game it undersold. It doesn't matter if it was the best selling game of the year , it still performed poorly for a COD game. 

This comes back to context.

Last edited by Carl - on 24 May 2018

                            

This one is kinda unnecessary don't think it will get to the billion mark world wide. I'm thinking the Obi-Wan spin off movie will do better.



areason said:
Acevil said:

Pretty sure, between the movies, merchandise, licensing agreements, and the soon to launch star wars land, they will have more than made returns on their purchase and gain bigger threshold of the marketplace/increased revenue/increased profits, which enforces their bottom line. They were 3-5th before 2010, and ever since TFA (started this journey) they have now had huge lead at first in total market share. 

So yes, I do imagine Disney is laughing to the bank. 

So what? If a project fails to meets it's goals it doesn't matter if it made a profit, it's still a disappointment.

The shareholders will not be overjoyed that they expected X amount in returns and got less then that. 

They'll especially be disappointed when they compare it to the amount they made off of TFA, which completely covered the budget of TLJ.  Not so for TLJ and Ep 9.  And then you have merch sales down, because many pissed off fans aren't buying it anymore.

To add insult to injury, they also have the Marvel brand under their wing showing them how much they could be making from the films and merch.  I remember someone saying in the TLJ thread that $600M-$620M was just the new norm for big budget films, I guess cause that's all TLJ could muster.  Then, just a few months later BP blows by it and is at ~$698M.  And IW is going to hit ~$650M.