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How Much Will Solo Make WW?

Under $700M 56 60.87%
 
$700M-$800M 18 19.57%
 
$801M-$900M 12 13.04%
 
$901M-$1B 3 3.26%
 
Over $1B 3 3.26%
 
Total:92

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I'm thinking this will make less then $600 million world wide the only reason it will have some kind of legs is because there really is nothing else good that is being released until The Incredibles 2 comes out on the 15th.



Chris Hu said:
shikamaru317 said:

That seems unlikely. I heard it only needs $500m to break even, so anything beyond that is pure profit. I can't see the movie pulling in less than $700m (plus more on the DVD/blu-ray/digital release and merchandise), so it stands to make a nice profit for Disney. I don't see Solo's performance affecting their plans for future character based anthology movies much, if at all. I think Disney realizes the lower than expected performance is largely because they released it too close to Avengers and Deadpool, so if Solo's performance has any effect at all, it will be to convince them to pick their release dates more carefully in the future, and maybe to convince them to have slightly smaller budgets on future character based anthology movies. 

The production budget might have been up to $300 million dollars so it needs to make about $600 million dollars to just break even.  At least its not going to be Disney's worst flop this year that one already happened with A Wrinkle In Time.

Ya, I think it will need between 500 million to 600 million from the box office. I think this will be one of those it will be successful but not fully successful from the box office (Similar to Justice League). This has the benefit of being spinoff, which is easy to recover from. 

However with films like these (any of the Star Wars Stories films) I think it is more Disney really wants to turn create synergy with the other parts of Disney, namely Hollywood studios which I believe is the weakest of the four parks.

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VGPolyglot said:
shikamaru317 said:

As I recall, Poe got emasculated multiple times by his female superiors. The writers killed off the male Admiral Ackbar so that the female Vice Admiral Holdo could control the fleet while Leia was in her coma. Then there was the whole pointless plotline with Finn and Rose sidetracking while they were on a vital mission to save some animals. 

So, a woman having a power over a man makes it SJW? Should women never be allowed to be in positions of authority in films?

Its not that hard to understand why people see it that way.

Having someone with authority is absolutely fine if it remains sensical and that was not the case with the role she played in the movie.

She decides to go on a suicide mission without explaining anything, the only person that goes against it is Poe and they play it of like hes a stubborn kid(man) while he kinda was the only person with a normal reaction in that kind of situation.

And to top it of, the woman that took command after Leia went in coma also had the fitting hair. haha



areason said:
I wasn't going to watch it due to no jedi, then i found out that Solo is a pansexual, so yeah not gonna bother.

Actually, that was supposed to have been Lando. Also, they never actually say that in the movie or address it in any way, shape or form. That's just something the writer said even though he didn't write it into the movie. I saw the movie the other night. Honestly, it's easily one of the better Disney Star Wars films. The characters are a lot more interesting than they were in Rogue One and because this movie takes in between other existing Star Wars movies, they couldn't really do much to mess up the Star Wars canon.



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I want to progress to a time when companies stop with the diversity quotas and just worry about what makes sense.

Yeah, and diversity makes sense as the US is becoming more diverse and thus it appeals to a larger audience.

And that's fine until you're told every damn group needs representation in a four person cast so you end up with a bunch of derpy snowflake abominations.



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thismeintiel said:
shikamaru317 said:

That seems unlikely. I heard it only needs $500m to break even, so anything beyond that is pure profit. I can't see the movie pulling in less than $700m (plus more on the DVD/blu-ray/digital release and merchandise), so it stands to make a nice profit for Disney. I don't see Solo's performance affecting their plans for future character based anthology movies much, if at all. I think Disney realizes the lower than expected performance is largely because they released it too close to Avengers and Deadpool, so if Solo's performance has any effect at all, it will be to convince them to pick their release dates more carefully in the future, and maybe to convince them to have slightly smaller budgets on future character based anthology movies. 

$500M is just for the cost of production.  That doesn't include the price to market the film.  To break even they are probably going to need $700M-$750M.  If this weekend really ends up going the way they expect it, now, there's a shot it doesn't even hit $700M.

And the competition is a poor excuse.  Deadpool 2 is looking to drop ~65% this weekend, so making ~$55M for the 4-day weekend.  And Avengers is projected to make just $21M.  The question pops into mind, "What competition?"  When POTC:AWE made ~$139.8M, it was going against the 2nd week of Shrek 3, where it did $67M, and the 4th week of Spider-Man 3, where it did $18.1M.  And while POTC is a large franchise, it ain't SW.

$250m was the production budget according to the article I read, the highest of any Disney Star Wars movie so far, because they had to film almost the entire movie twice, Ron Howard reshot almost every scene in the movie after he took over from Lord and Miller. The budget was planned to be only around $125-150m apparently, the lowest of any of the Disney Star Wars movies. So, with a production budget of $250m, the break even point after marketing and the cut that theaters take is $500m.

As I said though, even if Solo does flop, I doubt it will affect Disney's plans for future character based anthology movies, they'll just shoot them with a lower budget and pick better release windows for them. If future character based anthology movies have the $125-150m production budget that Solo was originally supposed to have, they will easily be profitable. 



shikamaru317 said:
thismeintiel said:

$500M is just for the cost of production.  That doesn't include the price to market the film.  To break even they are probably going to need $700M-$750M.  If this weekend really ends up going the way they expect it, now, there's a shot it doesn't even hit $700M.

And the competition is a poor excuse.  Deadpool 2 is looking to drop ~65% this weekend, so making ~$55M for the 4-day weekend.  And Avengers is projected to make just $21M.  The question pops into mind, "What competition?"  When POTC:AWE made ~$139.8M, it was going against the 2nd week of Shrek 3, where it did $67M, and the 4th week of Spider-Man 3, where it did $18.1M.  And while POTC is a large franchise, it ain't SW.

$250m was the production budget according to the article I read, the highest of any Disney Star Wars movie so far, because they had to film almost the entire movie twice, Ron Howard reshot almost every scene in the movie after he took over from Lord and Miller. The budget was planned to be only around $125-150m apparently, the lowest of any of the Disney Star Wars movies. So, with a production budget of $250m, the break even point after marketing and the cut that theaters take is $500m.

As I said though, even if Solo does flop, I doubt it will affect Disney's plans for future character based anthology movies, they'll just shoot them with a lower budget and pick better release windows for them. If future character based anthology movies have the $125-150m production budget that Solo was originally supposed to have, they will easily be profitable. 

Disney doesn't care about breaking even.They care about having a substantialROI. They also don't care about long game. They want as much money as fast as possible. If Disney wanted to slightly profit slowly they would invest the money in stocks and bondsI



Maxosaurus-rex said:
shikamaru317 said:

$250m was the production budget according to the article I read, the highest of any Disney Star Wars movie so far, because they had to film almost the entire movie twice, Ron Howard reshot almost every scene in the movie after he took over from Lord and Miller. The budget was planned to be only around $125-150m apparently, the lowest of any of the Disney Star Wars movies. So, with a production budget of $250m, the break even point after marketing and the cut that theaters take is $500m.

As I said though, even if Solo does flop, I doubt it will affect Disney's plans for future character based anthology movies, they'll just shoot them with a lower budget and pick better release windows for them. If future character based anthology movies have the $125-150m production budget that Solo was originally supposed to have, they will easily be profitable. 

Disney doesn't care about breaking even.They care about having a substantialROI. They also don't care about long game. They want as much money as fast as possible. If Disney wanted to slightly profit slowly they would invest the money in stocks and bondsI

I do think they care about the long game but try to pander to consumers/popular opinions from media and are kinda lost in that aspect.



shikamaru317 said:
thismeintiel said:

$500M is just for the cost of production.  That doesn't include the price to market the film.  To break even they are probably going to need $700M-$750M.  If this weekend really ends up going the way they expect it, now, there's a shot it doesn't even hit $700M.

And the competition is a poor excuse.  Deadpool 2 is looking to drop ~65% this weekend, so making ~$55M for the 4-day weekend.  And Avengers is projected to make just $21M.  The question pops into mind, "What competition?"  When POTC:AWE made ~$139.8M, it was going against the 2nd week of Shrek 3, where it did $67M, and the 4th week of Spider-Man 3, where it did $18.1M.  And while POTC is a large franchise, it ain't SW.

$250m was the production budget according to the article I read, the highest of any Disney Star Wars movie so far, because they had to film almost the entire movie twice, Ron Howard reshot almost every scene in the movie after he took over from Lord and Miller. The budget was planned to be only around $125-150m apparently, the lowest of any of the Disney Star Wars movies. So, with a production budget of $250m, the break even point after marketing and the cut that theaters take is $500m.

As I said though, even if Solo does flop, I doubt it will affect Disney's plans for future character based anthology movies, they'll just shoot them with a lower budget and pick better release windows for them. If future character based anthology movies have the $125-150m production budget that Solo was originally supposed to have, they will easily be profitable. 

It's probably much higher to break even, given Disney take a cut about 50% of the ticket price domestically and in some countries, such as China, is way less than that (for foreign movies, closer to a quarter of ticket prices indeed).