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How Much Will Solo Make WW?

Under $700M 56 60.87%
 
$700M-$800M 18 19.57%
 
$801M-$900M 12 13.04%
 
$901M-$1B 3 3.26%
 
Over $1B 3 3.26%
 
Total:92

Despite my previous post, I probably will still end up seeing the movie. The last Ron Howard "space" movie was Apollo 13 which is a great film. Plus the movie has the badass Woody Harelson and one of my Game of Thrones crush Emilia Clarke.

But I'm not expecting much out of it. I certainly don't expect the level of quality near the OT or even episode 3. It just seems to me like Disney is going in the direction of style over substance. If your movie (or any product for that matter) is good enough it'll speak for itself, you don't have to rely on gimmicks or tabloid bs to get people talking about it.



 

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Azuren said:
adidas198 said:

Really? Marvel stays out of politics? Did you not watch Black Panther? Which by the way over-performed by Disney expectations. Also Marvel movies are vastly different to one another. Winter Soldier, Black Panther, Ant-Man, Spider-Man Homecoming and such all have different feel to them so even though technically they are superhero films, they can be taken as individual movies as well. Not so with Star Wars, which is why there is a fatigue with those movies already.

You have such an anti-SJW boner that you will believe people are pushing propaganda at you even though they're just making a movie. Heck Solo has a straight white male lead so this should be right up your alley man. 

First of all, Disney's obsession with Political Correctness and catering to the snowflakes SJWs isn't a niche piece of information. Their vehement defense of MaRey Sue should be proof enough by itself.

 

And there are ways to cuck up a movie without changing the gender or race of a person.

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adidas198 said:
thismeintiel said:

The yearly thing is just a poor excuse, though.  Marvel has been pumping 2-3 movies a year for the past 5 years or so, yet every sequel performs better than the last.  The difference?  Marvel tries to stay out of the political crap.  Even if they dabble in it a little, its very general things that most can agree on and, more importantly, they don't shit all over the fans who actually got them where they are when they don't agree.  They also don't try to shit on the characters, either, which is nice.

What I see happening with SW is the exact same thing that happened with the Ghostbusters remake.  The only difference is that instead of pushing the political agenda first, and making a poor film, Lucafilm/Kennedy made TFA first to rope us in.  Wasn't the greatest film, but it was decent and got us looking forward to more, where some of the issues in TFA could be addressed.  Then, after they had a hold of the fans and a pile of cash, they started pushing out their agenda into the lore (the Force is female) and films (TLJ and, now, Solo), either through the script or social media.  As expected, many fans are not accepting it.

Well, technically they are saying that Lando is a pansexual.  But, I still agree with you.

Really? Marvel stays out of politics? Did you not watch Black Panther? Which by the way over-performed by Disney expectations. Also Marvel movies are vastly different to one another. Winter Soldier, Black Panther, Ant-Man, Spider-Man Homecoming and such all have different feel to them so even though technically they are superhero films, they can be taken as individual movies as well. Not so with Star Wars, which is why there is a fatigue with those movies already.

You have such an anti-SJW boner that you will believe people are pushing propaganda at you even though they're just making a movie. Heck Solo has a straight white male lead so this should be right up your alley man. 

First of all, the politics of BP were very general.  It was basically MLK vs Malcom X.  Killmonger had a right to be mad, but it was made clear that the way he was going about it was completely wrong and he had to be stopped.  Same goes for any Marvel film.  And no, they don't have a unique feel.  They are painstakingly made so that they feel very similar.  Some may be a little darker than others, or be set in a different location, but the overall look, feel, and model are pretty much the same.  It's why people can say that something is trying to be a Marvel film.  So, fatigue is a poor excuse.  Especially after just two friggin films.

Or maybe you just support the message, so you don't see when they are trying to cram stuff down the collective throat of those who either disagree or just don't want that stuff in their SW film.

CGI-Quality said:
thismeintiel said:

Well, good to know that mods don't have to follow forum rules. I'll just keep that in mind. 

Sincerely, what would you like for me to do?

Absolutely nothing.

morenoingrato said:
Who are you people?? VGchartz has gone insanely right wing out of a freaking movie.

Being right wing has absolutely nothing to do with it.  There are plenty in the center/center-left who despise the direction that SW is going.  I'm subbed to Mindless Entertainment on Youtube, the host of which would definitely describe herself as being on the Left and with whom I don't always agree with, but she hates all of this crap being put into SW, too.

numberwang said:

Box Office: 'Solo: A Star Wars Story' Bombs In China With $3M Friday

As expected, Solo: A Star Wars Story was DOA in China, earning just $3.3 million on its first day of release. That's way below the $9.7m opening day of The Last Jedi, the $10.7m opening day for Rogue One and obviously below the $33m opening day for The Force Awakens.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/05/25/box-office-solo-a-star-wars-story-bombs-in-china-with-3m-friday/#179f4e921a6a

The sad thing is that Disney could have had a chance to expand the market with China, like they did with the Marvel flicks.  Instead, China rejected TLJ and seems to be done with the franchise.  At least for now.

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Azuren said:
morenoingrato said:
Who are you people?? VGchartz has gone insanely right wing out of a freaking movie.

It's not right wing, it's a rejection of regressive leftist activism.

What was regressive leftist activism in this movie? A somewhat loud robot that 5 years ago would have been funny?

And what is SJW in TLJ anyway? An Asian chick?



Carl said:
Some people need to get a fucking life.

Are you suggesting everybody stop visiting this site?



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Maxosaurus-rex said:
morenoingrato said:
Who are you people?? VGchartz has gone insanely right wing out of a freaking movie.

It's not right wing to reject poor decision making and bad movies. Seriously, the fact that you made this political is very telling. 

Yep. You are completely correct. I get my inspiration from Occupy Democrats and Anita Sarkeesian.



Fri estimates are up. Solo made $35.6M. This is ~49.9% down from RO, which did $71.1M for its first Fri. The new 4-day weekend estimate is $108M-$115M. This would be 33.4%-37.5% lower than RO's first weekend. If that continues, Solo would make $332.61M-$354.43M at the DBO. If FBO represents the same 49.6% that it did for RO, then Solo would make $659.94M-$703.23M WW. This would officially make it a flop, especially if it comes in on the lower end, or worse.

Personally, I see it being on the lower end, if not worse. I doubt the legs on this will be as good as RO. I also don't think the FBO is going to be doing much heavy lifting, as I fully expect them to miss their ~$300M WW numbers for opening weekend. Then, we have Incredibles 2 coming in mid-June, which will cut its legs to basically nothing as it draws away families.

I do laugh at the tired excuses by some, as well as BOM. 1) Fatigue. Uh, Marvel? 2) Maybe May isn't for SW. Uh, the majority of SW movies have launched in May. Disney decided to go with December, but that doesn't change if people will come out and see your film or not. 3) The competition. This is something I sometimes bring up, mainly because it is the argument of so many analysts. In truth, if you have a big film and it is good, people will come to see it. Whether opening weekend or the weeks following. Besides, DP2 seems to be dropping quite a bit (65%) and Avengers is only expected to make ~$21M, so what exactly is keeping people away? Of course, absolutely no questioning the quality of the film. Or the BS that happened on social media. Sure, that had nothing to do with it. Lol.

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thismeintiel said:

Fri estimates are up. Solo made $35.6M. This is ~49.9% down from RO, which did $71.1M for its first Fri. The new 4-day weekend estimate is $108M-$115M. This would be 33.4%-37.5% lower than RO's first weekend. If that continues, Solo would make $332.61M-$354.43M at the DBO. If FBO represents the same 49.6% that it did for RO, then Solo would make $659.94M-$703.23M WW. This would officially make it a flop, especially if it comes in on the lower end, or worse.

Personally, I see it being on the lower end, if not worse. I doubt the legs on this will be as good as RO. I also don't think the FBO is going to be doing much heavy lifting, as I fully expect them to miss their ~$300M WW numbers for opening weekend. Then, we have Incredibles 2 coming in mid-June, which will cut its legs to basically nothing as it draws away families.

I do laugh at the tired excuses by some, as well as BOM. 1) Fatigue. Uh, Marvel? 2) Maybe May isn't for SW. Uh, the majority of SW movies have launched in May. Disney decided to go with December, but that doesn't change if people will come out and see your film or not. 3) The competition. This is something I sometimes bring up, mainly because it is the argument of so many analysts. In truth, if you have a big film and it is good, people will come to see it. Whether opening weekend or the weeks following. Besides, DP2 seems to be dropping quite a bit (65%) and Avengers is only expected to make ~$21M, so what exactly is keeping people away? Of course, absolutely no questioning the quality of the film. Or the BS that happened on social media. Sure, that had nothing to do with it. Lol.

This is like the 4th down revision 



I'm thinking Disney is milking the Star Wars franchise a bit too much especially since they just announced that they will make a Boba Fett just a few days after they announced they will make a Obi Wan movie.



Mr Puggsly said:
Carl said:
Some people need to get a fucking life.

Are you suggesting everybody stop visiting this site?

Apparently. 

That expression coming from a "Moderator" made me cringe.