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Kaneman! said:
Maxosaurus-rex said:

Actually, it's pretty much a widely accepted rule that common knowledge doesn't need to be sourced. Disagree all you want about that. It's a fact.

 

Because Isreal is an ally... Did you seriously just ask that?? You might have well asked why the US doesn't put sanctions on UK

Again, if people disagree with you, then saying "I am right, and you are wrong" is not the way to go about. Want to show that you're right? Prove it.

Israel doesn't even confirm that they have nuclear weapons, and they are NOT signatories of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaty, so it is definitely NOT the same as putting sanctions on the UK, it's preventing them to amass a nuclear stockpile. And you ignored Pakistan. How about India, then?

India threatens genocide and to nuke Japan, SK, US and the world on a regular basis while capturing visitors, brainwashing its population, and committing unspeakable crimes against humanity on their own population?? These aren't even comparable.



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Maxosaurus-rex said:

India threatens genocide and to nuke Japan, SK, US and the world on a regular basis while capturing visitors, brainwashing its population, and committing unspeakable crimes against humanity on their own population?? These aren't even comparable.


When did India threaten to nuke Japan and South Korea?

Are you confusing India with North Korea? I mean, that's a pretty big mistake for someone with such vast common knowledge experience.



Kaneman! said:
Maxosaurus-rex said:

India threatens genocide and to nuke Japan, SK, US and the world on a regular basis while capturing visitors, brainwashing its population, and committing unspeakable crimes against humanity on their own population?? These aren't even comparable.


When did India threaten to nuke Japan and South Korea?

Are you confusing India with North Korea? I mean, that's a pretty big mistake for someone with such vast common knowledge experience.

Lose the logical fallacies. They don't help your case 



Maxosaurus-rex said:
Kaneman! said:


When did India threaten to nuke Japan and South Korea?

Are you confusing India with North Korea? I mean, that's a pretty big mistake for someone with such vast common knowledge experience.

Lose the logical fallacies. They don't help your case 

What fallacy is that? The same ad hominem that you've been using through the whole thread to discredit other posters?

And what is "my case"? That you haven't proven a single point yet? Then your cowardly tactics in avoiding my points speak for themselves.



HollyGamer said:
Ljink96 said:

Well...Trump did say he deserved a Nobel Peace Prize for the summit...but now I guess he doesn't deserve it, lol

Well the summit can happen again in the near future, and Trump never said he want the nobel price it's just if Obama can get Nobel price without any effort , why wouldn't Trump? 

Well I'd say Obama has put more effort into his presidency than trump ever has, gotta count for something. And uh, I wouldn't necessarily call this  term a peaceful one. Trump did in fact think that everybody thinks the deserved the peace prize, and you'd be foolish not to believe he didn't either, just based on a already shaky summit. I feel more at ease if Obama got a prize for no effort rather than Trump getting it for no effort and he's a habitual liar and hypocrite, among many other things. 



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Maxosaurus-rex said:
This thread is just one example of many of how bad the left actually are. Make stuff up. Ignore facts. Claim they don't act like the right

The Left and the Right are as bad as each other, you would be a fool to assume otherwise.
Rather, hows about you stop delving into ad hominem and debate the topics that are presented instead?

Kaneman! said:

To the second point of your statement, why does the US demand denuclearization of North Korea, but not Israel or Pakistan?


This is a damn good question.
I bet if Australia were to build Nuclear Weapon no one on the planet would actually give a shit. - In-fact, I am pretty sure a statement from the US years ago said they would allow it.

I think the issue comes down to a countries interests though, if your interests have historically, culturally and politically aligned with the USA, then chances are... They will turn a blind eye.

 



--::{PC Gaming Master Race}::--

Another historic failure by Trump but that was expected.

Now we can just hope that South Korea won't fuck it up. If they're smart, they will keep out the US of any NK talks.



Pemalite said:
Maxosaurus-rex said:
This thread is just one example of many of how bad the left actually are. Make stuff up. Ignore facts. Claim they don't act like the right

The Left and the Right are as bad as each other, you would be a fool to assume otherwise.
Rather, hows about you stop delving into ad hominem and debate the topics that are presented instead?

Kaneman! said:

To the second point of your statement, why does the US demand denuclearization of North Korea, but not Israel or Pakistan?


This is a damn good question.
I bet if Australia were to build Nuclear Weapon no one on the planet would actually give a shit. - In-fact, I am pretty sure a statement from the US years ago said they would allow it.

I think the issue comes down to a countries interests though, if your interests have historically, culturally and politically aligned with the USA, then chances are... They will turn a blind eye.

 

If you notice, I'm the only one presenting sources instead of making baseless political rant posts



Kaneman! said:
Maxosaurus-rex said:

Lose the logical fallacies. They don't help your case 

What fallacy is that? The same ad hominem that you've been using through the whole thread to discredit other posters?

And what is "my case"? That you haven't proven a single point yet? Then your cowardly tactics in avoiding my points speak for themselves.

You might want to look up the definition of ad hominem, bud. And turn a blind eye to the facts if you want. Doesn't mean they aren't there. 



Pemalite said:

Kaneman! said:

To the second point of your statement, why does the US demand denuclearization of North Korea, but not Israel or Pakistan?


This is a damn good question.
I bet if Australia were to build Nuclear Weapon no one on the planet would actually give a shit. - In-fact, I am pretty sure a statement from the US years ago said they would allow it.

I think the issue comes down to a countries interests though, if your interests have historically, culturally and politically aligned with the USA, then chances are... They will turn a blind eye.

 

I actually agree with that, but if a neutral country (say South Sudan, because they're the only other non-signatory) attempted nuclear proliferation and would not subject to US terms, they would be demanding the same towards them as they do with North Korea, but don't with Israel. Same reason why the USA are sharing their nuclear arsenal with NATO countries. Nuclear demilitarization would need to be priority, no matter what the country's political stance towards the USA is.

Maxosaurus-rex said:

You might want to look up the definition of ad hominem, bud. And turn a blind eye to the facts if you want. Doesn't mean they aren't there. 

Whatever. You can keep avoiding questions and give non-answers as much as you want, it doesn't make your word a fact.