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They really want to sell more than one Switch for family mindset as soon as possible. Maybe releated to Pokemon and Smash?



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Mnementh said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:
On the surface this seems like not a bid deal. This is for households that already own a Switch and it is for Japan only.

But what it really means is that they are boosting up their Japanese install base as fast as possible. That means even more Japanese 3rd party games are going to be made. In a year or two there is going to be a flood of Japanese 3rd party exclusives hitting the Switch.

Uncanny. But I'm only happy if I see Etrian Odyssey Switch. Atlus should move.

Atlus mostly strikes me as very slow to move over to "next gen" consoles.  They must be annoying as hell to the console makers.  The big 3 try to sell their shiny new consoles right after release and then Atlus comes along and releases great games on the "last gen" stuff.



Since day one you were able to sell the Switch dock for $50 or more: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=switch+dock&_sacat=0&Brand=Nintendo&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

So if you wanted to save the $50 because you don't like/need the TV mode you just had to find someone who wanted an additional dock (multiple TVs in the house, only one Switch).



Well it's pretty obvious at this point that the Switch was designed to be a handheld first and foremost, and I don't think anyone can possibly argue otherwise with a straight face after the contents of the Switch w/Dock version favored handheld mode, and this new dock-free one clearly does too.

I'm also not really buying the whole "it's meant for households that already have a Switch" nonsense, unless you want to argue that Nintendo only meant for Japanese DS owners to buy a 3DS since that didn't come with an AC adapter and couldn't be charged out of the box either. It's just Nintendo's classic nickle and diming antics.



An alternative would be to buy the full set and sell everything except tablet and joy-cons. Still 199$ is the magic price for a handheld and I expect that price for a basic set next year.



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quickrick said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

they're still taking $50 off, and it's aimed at households that already have a Switch. So there's obviously an adapter already in the household 

you because there so much people that are actually gonna buy 2 switches, they removed the adapter for a reason, its  a BS reason just to price gauge, typical nintendo.  main reason they took 50$ is to increase sales in japan, while taking the smallest hit possible. 

 

quickrick said:
nemo37 said:

The joy-con grip comes with these systems. Also, this specific bundle is made for people that own a Switch and want more for their household (remember in Japan living space is more limited so there is one TV per house) so a dock and separate AC adapter is not necessary for people that already have one. 

everyone in japan is buying switch mainly as a handheld device, nintendo knows this, thats why they excluded the ac adapter, its just a way for nintedo to make the price cheaper and try to boost sales in japan, with out really taking a hit. i think we can all agree the ac adapter cost nintendo nothing to make, yet they exluded to force people into paying 30$ for them.

 

quickrick said:
nemo37 said:

Well yes, I am not refuting what you are saying I am just saying that this bundle, even by the text of the official shop page, is for households looking to purchase more than one Switch. This bundle only makes sense for those that already have the AC adapter and the dock. 

Imagine a case like this:

Parents buy their oldest child a Switch, but do not want to purchase a unit for the younger ones due to the expense. Nintendo offers a cheaper Switch without the dock and AC adapter, but the parents already have these components and do not need to buy them again, so they purchase this bundle for their younger child. The 3DS after its price-cut got a significant increase in sales in Japan precisely because it made it afordable for families to purchase units individually for their children, Nintendo is trying to do something similar here (although the price is still too high, but it is getting closer to the sweet spot).

in the front page is says It does not include the dock, Joy-Con grip, AC adapter, or HDMI cable. seems like a huge rip off, and even if you are a parent eventually you might buy those other items, costing you a arm and a leg.

I don't understand what you are arguing, because you change your stance from one post to the next.  In one post, you are saying that handheld only gamers are the ones that are going to buy this.  Yet, in a later post, you complain that the Dock and HDMI cable are not included.  What does a person who has no intention of docking to a tv need with the dock or HDMI cable?  Who is being suckered?  If someone wants all of those things, that is the standard model being sold everywhere.  When the separate dock began being sold by itself, did you also complain that anyone who bought it was being suckered because it didn't actually come with a Switch?



Mar1217 said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Atlus mostly strikes me as very slow to move over to "next gen" consoles.  They must be annoying as hell to the console makers.  The big 3 try to sell their shiny new consoles right after release and then Atlus comes along and releases great games on the "last gen" stuff.

Nevermind that they're working on a new IP for the PS4 while also working on SMT V for the Switch in the meanwhile,lol.

Lol, yes, my point exactly.  I bet that PS4 game will come out right after the PS5 is released.



Hiku said:
Mar1217 said:

To be honest, you'll have to try hard if you wanna scratch your screen with the dock and also I doubt you wouldn't buy a screen protector just in case.

I wouldn't bring my Switch with me anywhere. Just play it at home, so I probably wouldn't get a screen protector.
As for having to try hard to scratch it with the dock, I can't take your word for that. I've seen people claim the exact same thing, "that you'll have to try really hard to scratch it", only to then follow that up with "whoops, sorry. It actually can scratch it easily."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svKTFZ_MXo4

The way I understand it is that it's different from unit to unit. But if Nintendo release a revision, they should cover the plastic notches with something soft.

I've had a Switch since launch.  I take it everywhere and dock it everytime I'm home.  No scratches.  I've also never scratched the screen of any of my cell phones, but a friend of mine has completely cracked the screen on several of his.  You can't cover the world in nerf material just because certain people are prone to scratch/break things no matter what.



That was an obvious way to make it cheaper fast. Probably will improve sales as well, be it as secondary Switch on a household or to someone that doesn't care much about playing on TV and have a charger or don't mind buying one since it is cheap.
I guess this would also increase WW sales.
But is it now HH?



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potato_hamster said:
Well it's pretty obvious at this point that the Switch was designed to be a handheld first and foremost, and I don't think anyone can possibly argue otherwise with a straight face after the contents of the Switch w/Dock version favored handheld mode, and this new dock-free one clearly does too.

I'm also not really buying the whole "it's meant for households that already have a Switch" nonsense, unless you want to argue that Nintendo only meant for Japanese DS owners to buy a 3DS since that didn't come with an AC adapter and couldn't be charged out of the box either. It's just Nintendo's classic nickle and diming antics.

It’s so far only being sold from the My Nintendo store and they apparently mentioned that’s it’s aimed towards households with a Switch already. Nintendo even has stated that they wanted multiple people in households to have a Switch, not just having multiple households with a Switch.