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not really surprising, but on the other side, the best games comes always out at the final stage of life of a console



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UltimateGamer1982 said:

https://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/ps4-is-in-final-stage-of-life-cycle-playstation-boss-1855579

 

HIGHLIGHTS

  • PlayStation boss hints at a 2021 PS5 launch
  • He also states that unit sales for the PS4 will taper off
  • Services revenue should make up for some of the shortfall

It appears that Sony is gearing up for the PS5, stating that the PS4 is reaching the end of its life. During the company's investor relations day or Sony IR Day as it's known, PlayStation boss John Kodera said (as per The Wall Street Journal's Takashi Mochizuki's translation) that the "PS4 is entering final phase of its life cycle, which would have negative impact to the unit, but recurring revenue via membership services etc should cushion some of that". With gaming trade show E3 less than a month away and Sony not having any plans to reveal any PS5 details, this should be deflating for PS fans expecting a new console.

How do you take from this that the PS5 is hinted at 2021? That's patently absurd.

I'm ready for holidays 2019.



setsunatenshi said:
UltimateGamer1982 said:

https://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/ps4-is-in-final-stage-of-life-cycle-playstation-boss-1855579

 

HIGHLIGHTS

  • PlayStation boss hints at a 2021 PS5 launch
  • He also states that unit sales for the PS4 will taper off
  • Services revenue should make up for some of the shortfall

It appears that Sony is gearing up for the PS5, stating that the PS4 is reaching the end of its life. During the company's investor relations day or Sony IR Day as it's known, PlayStation boss John Kodera said (as per The Wall Street Journal's Takashi Mochizuki's translation) that the "PS4 is entering final phase of its life cycle, which would have negative impact to the unit, but recurring revenue via membership services etc should cushion some of that". With gaming trade show E3 less than a month away and Sony not having any plans to reveal any PS5 details, this should be deflating for PS fans expecting a new console.

How do you take from this that the PS5 is hinted at 2021? That's patently absurd.

I'm ready for holidays 2019.

Quoted from the article. My personal beliefs has been 2019 for ps5. 6 years is long enough, time for next gen next year. 



UltimateGamer1982 said:
setsunatenshi said:

How do you take from this that the PS5 is hinted at 2021? That's patently absurd.

I'm ready for holidays 2019.

Quoted from the article. My personal beliefs has been 2019 for ps5. 6 years is long enough, time for next gen next year. 

Kodera didn't hint anything. It's just a wild assumption made by the article writer.



"Kodera also noted that while Sony is investing in first-party, it is not entirely for the creation of new IP. The refreshment of existing IP and development of successful IP as franchises are also part of the company’s plan to strengthen content."

A.K.A Horizon 2 is coming. There's been basically zero sequels to exclusive PS4 games so far, as they start to move developers onto projects for the PS5's early years they'll probably begin to make games that make use of the existing assets and engines from previous games to continue to release software on PS4 with less work.

After all PS3 had 3 Uncharteds, 3 Resistance's, 4 Ratchet's, 2 Infamous Games 2 LBPS, 3 Motorstorms, etc. This generation so far has had next to no first party series with multiple entries. So they'll want to start cranking the machine to push out games that can be made with less work due to the foundations already being in place, freeing up staff to start more long-term projects for the PS5.



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That's the part where PS5 is hinted to be coming until 2021.

 

I mean, I guess that's the part.



Barkley said:

"Kodera also noted that while Sony is investing in first-party, it is not entirely for the creation of new IP. The refreshment of existing IP and development of successful IP as franchises are also part of the company’s plan to strengthen content."

A.K.A Horizon 2 is coming. There's been basically zero sequels to exclusive PS4 games so far, as they start to move developers onto projects for the PS5's early years they'll probably begin to make games that make use of the existing assets and engines from previous games to continue to release software on PS4 with less work.

After all PS3 had 3 Uncharteds, 3 Resistance's, 4 Ratchet's, 2 Infamous Games 2 LBPS, 3 Motorstorms, etc. This generation so far has had next to no first party series with multiple entries. So they'll want to start cranking the machine to push out games that can be made with less work due to the foundations already being in place, freeing up staff to start more long-term projects for the PS5.

It seems they spent this generation building tent-pole blockbuster franchises and studios. So having Naughty Dog, SSM, Guerilla, Sucker Punch and (hopefully) Bend all relevant with popular franchises under their belt, as well as a Kojima franchise that is first party. 

Now they need to flesh out the other stuff. Revive Twisted Metal, Wipeout, Ape Escape. Restructure Sony Japan so that they release more consistently good games. Try to get back some of the original creative talent for some of this as well.



'entering the final stages'...well, duh, of course it is, this is the systems´s fifth year in the market after all.About two more years before the PS5 comes, I think.



2020-2021 have been an accepted date for PS5 for many people here.



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John2290 said:
I would have though the final stages would start after the ps5's is announced or perhaps even on ps5 releases. Consoles still seem to sell at that point and people still buy games in mass.

In terms of first-party titles it's the final stages.

Here's a list of PS3 games they released after the PS4:

Ratchet Into the Nexus (Nov 2013)
Gran Turismo 6 (Dec 2013)
MLB 14,15,16 (Cross-Gen) (March 2014,2015,2016)
LBP 3 (Cross-Gen) (Nov 2014)

So only two titles that weren't cross-gen PS4, and those two titles were released within a week of the PS4 launching.