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Who Responds Best to What Fans Want?

Microsoft 10 11.63%
 
Nintendo 12 13.95%
 
Sony 64 74.42%
 
Total:86

As a PC gamer, I'd have to go with Microsoft. They've been bringing their games over here and enavling crossplay, which Sony refuses to do. However, if I had bought an xbox one for the exclusives, I'd have considerable buyers remorse at this point.

Sony did well at first, but they have been really slipping these past couple years. Nintendo are... hit and miss. The Switch is the system I've been asking for for years, and they're bringing good stuff to it. However, it all falls apart as soon as the internet is connected.



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It's clearly sony without a shadow of a doubt. And why anybody would select Microsoft in the poll is beyond me, they have been the worst for years, theyre deceitful and almost ignore their fans on purpose sometimes (it seems).



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I would say Sony in the longterm and very recently Microsoft. Sony dropped a huge bomb when they announced the $299 pricepoint. They went compact disk when Nintendo stuck with cartridges even though developers were against it(Square and Namco did not release a single game for the n64, I think Capcom released one). They were the first to make their console region free of the big three(I think the 3D0 was technically region free?). Sony flaunted that 2nd hand games would still exist in a full capacity when the Xbox One wanted to eliminate it. Vita havingtwo analog sticks off the bat was awesome too. However they make some silly mistakes like proprietory(and expensive) cards for the Vita and the bizarre decision NOT to have an UHD bluray drive in their premium 4k focused PS4 Pro.

Microsoft in the last 3 years have improved alot with the Elite controller, Xbox one X hardware, backward compatibility, great bundles, UHD player in the S and X consoles, great redesign of the S that didn't remove features(ie optical port from the PS4 Slim) but actually added features like the UHD drive. But sadly have very few quality exclusives.



StokedUp said:
It's clearly sony without a shadow of a doubt. And why anybody would select Microsoft in the poll is beyond me, they have been the worst for years, theyre deceitful and almost ignore their fans on purpose sometimes (it seems).

Here's my logic:

+Got rid of Kinect

+Heard complaints about FPS and Resolution and released the XBO X for those who cared.

+The console itself asks for feedback whenever a new feature is added (ie: "How do you feel about navigating the Microsoft Store")

+Got rid of the adapter "brick"

+Added backwards compatiblity, even for games that aren't available digitally

+Has a specific page where you can make suggestions about what you want the console to do--and actually implements them in a relatively short amount of time (Sony has one, too. I just don't think they take ideas into account as much)

+Updated the controller when people complained about it initially

+Constantly evolves their dashboard interface basedon user feedback

+Added crossplay with other consoles and PC

+Added instant refund for digital purchases

+Got rid of their initial consumer unfriendly policies (ie: DRM)

+ Offers a game download service instead of a game streaming service

+Allows the use of any image to be uploaded as a profile pic

+PC mods for certain games

-Haven't released/announced certain demanded games

-No controller version that has a built in rechargeable battery

-Raised the price of their online to $60 annually

 

Sony:

+Added external HDD support

+Added the ability to group games into files

+Updated the PSVR to support HDR (too late for me, though..)

+Allows and image to be used as a profile banner

-Still no option to turn off controller light

-Still no option to change PSN ID

-won't allow cross play with everybody else when Nintendo and M$ will

-Raised the price of their online service to $60 annually

-actually accused me of constantly abusing their digital return policy when I tried to return a digital game to purchase the deluxe version of the same game!

 

Like I said earlier, I think Sony has a winning plan. They don't really need to change much to keep their fanbase happy. Meanwhile, Microsoft had to change a lot to recover from their disastrous pre-launch. Pretty much anything fans ask, they allow it. I even sent an email about my dislike for the confirmation sounds on the dashboard menus and they changed the sounds to something less abrasive!

 

I'm not the authority and this isn't a comprehensive list for either company (and Nintendo, my favorite if the three, just does not give a fuck! Doesn't make them a bad company. They just aren't the best when it comes to responding to demands). I just posted my thoughts and what made me feel the way I do.



I really appreciate that Sony did not give up on The Last Guardian and most of the the stuff I want to play is on Playstation. Also making a more powerful system like they did with the Pro is up my alley of appreciation too. So yeah, Sony is my choice for gaming. It's not perfect and there are a few things I would love to see improved but all in all I'm good with my PS4 Pro.



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Nintendo

because often they do what fans never knew they wanted until Nintendo did it



Lafiel said:

Nintendo

because often they do what fans never knew they wanted until Nintendo did it

People often don't truly know what they want. You can't 'respond' to a silent unknown.

Should the OT be "Which of the Big 3 respond best to what fans say they want?" or "Which of the Big 3 give fans what they actually want?"



John2290 said:
Vinther1991 said:
Listening to the fans is not always a good thing. For instance - the Switch wouldn't even exist if Nintendo listened to their fans. But now most seem to be very happy Nintendo went in that direction.

Huh? They basically copy/pasted the plans for the system from forums and rumors. Even if they done it on the sly, it's still listening to what fans wanted.

There might have been some that were asking for something like the Switch, but the vast majority wanted Nintendo to make a powerhouse console that could attract third parties.



Hiku said:
Signalstar said:

Microsoft

Listened:

-When fans hated the Xbox One always online and used game policy they got rid of it before launch.

I wouldn't attribute that to a situation where Microsoft listened. They got a lot of negative feedback from fans who had concerns with it. Some of which are in the armed service and liked to play Halo in their spare time, but won't have an internet connection. Dom Matrick's response was "Get a 360".

It wasn't until pre-order numbers for PS4 running circles around XBO went viral them that an MS excec put the hammer down and got rid of it.
So it was more a forced decision to survive rather than listening, imo.

Adding some more to this:

Sony listening:


In 2014 they had players vote for games they wanted localized on the Playstation Store in the west in something called "Building The List".
Yakuza 5 and Suikoden 2 were two of the games that got the highest amount of votes. I forget what the other game was, but this was a really nice thing to do and I hope they do it again. https://www.polygon.com/2014/12/6/7345297/yakuza-5-is-coming-to-ps4-in-north-america-and-europe

Nintendo listening:

Gamecube controller support for WiiU in correlation to the Smash 4 release.

Nintendo not listening:

Not including a charger with 3DS in many parts of the world. That's just stupid.


As for which company listens to the fans best, that's hard for me to determine. Pokemon fans enjoy playing virtually the same game over and over again for decades. And FIFA/Madden fans like so. And the console manufacturers push these games every year.
But from my own perspective, because of some of Nintendo's decisions I haven't had a Nintendo home console since N64. (I got 3DS though.) Switch is looking much better though so I might very well pick one up later when it has more games I want.
What I mainly loved about Nintendo's consoles aside from their own games was the incredibly strong third party support they had. That went over to Playstation instead, and they continue making consoles that attract third parties. (Aside from Cell being difficult to program for.)

As for Microsoft, I think I can easily rule them out because their sales numbers suggest that a lot of their fans from the 360 era are not getting what they want. Although I do think MS gives their current core base most of what they want, aside from some big AAA exclusives in the last few years.

I could argue that many Xbox fans in the 360 era were just PS2 fans. When Sony started doing things right, they just went back home.

 

I have no evidence to back this up, though. It's just crazy that a console brand would go from 20 million to 80 million and then back to whatever the Xbox number is now.



Hello everyone,,
Right now it's Microsoft. They're basically just doing whatever gamers ask for. Sony is on top and doesn't give a fuck (PS Now instead of BC and... guess what... they don't care. Suck it) and Nintendo never does what you want... they do what they think you want.
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Microsoft was in that camp until Sony almost buried them at the start of this gen but since then, they've become the best consumer-friendly company by far imo. Will that change again if they get back on top? Yup. Then it will be Sony's turn to be good to us like they were during the PS3 days.
Why these guys don't figure out that being good to us WHILE being on top could KEEP them on top? I have no idea.

Last edited by Jawline - on 05 December 2019