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BraLoD said:
LethalP said:

Why would you even think that? I think we should have come to learn by now that big budget, highly marketed PS4 exclusives sell 5 million in their sleep.

You mean Sony own flagship games, which it's not.

Some of you guys are having some really wishful thinking about the sales of this game. Get a look and how many exclusives sold over 5M on the PS4 that are not first party games. Zero.

Yeah, A lot of people on here are equating Marvels movie success to this game. I think Sony are too and they'd be right in part, it'll have an effect for sure but only a cross over effect of Spiderman fans that already own a PS4. I'd reckon the meat of the sales of the games will be PS4 players who don't give a shit either way and just want a good game. If it see critic acclaim and I'm sure it will it'll see good sales, probably beat that 5 million number too but as some people are saying, 8..10..15 million...not a fucking chance.



 

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LethalP said:
IkePoR said:

The evidence against it is the series past sales, something I pointed out already.  God of War PS4 is a part of the God of War franchise, not the Horizon Zero Dawn franchise.  Their sales are completely and totally separate of each other.  Your evidence is not even evidence, it's a comparison.  

But it's literally a few weeks from passing the lifetime sales of GoW 3, the previous best seller in the series. So then using past games as any indication would be stupid. You seem to have it in your head that Horizon is a bigger franchise than GoW and that it will have better legs. It won't, not because I see the future, but because I have some common sense. GoW has already shown beyond doubt that it will be more successful than Horizon. In literally every single way.

There's an extremely thin chance I'm wrong though, so you can choose to hang on to that if you like.

Whether it passes the lifetime sales of GoW 3 or not isn't the point.  It was you invalidating the method of tracking the game by pointing at Horizon, which is absurd thinking, let alone method, as others have pointed out.  As I've said before, games have tendencies to drop in sales suddenly, which again would be more evidence against... your feelings?  Oh, your common sense.  I suppose the myriad of folks disagreeing with you have no common sense then?



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IkePoR said:
LethalP said:

But it's literally a few weeks from passing the lifetime sales of GoW 3, the previous best seller in the series. So then using past games as any indication would be stupid. You seem to have it in your head that Horizon is a bigger franchise than GoW and that it will have better legs. It won't, not because I see the future, but because I have some common sense. GoW has already shown beyond doubt that it will be more successful than Horizon. In literally every single way.

There's an extremely thin chance I'm wrong though, so you can choose to hang on to that if you like.

Whether it passes the lifetime sales of GoW 3 or not isn't the point.  It was you invalidating the method of tracking the game by pointing at Horizon, which is absurd thinking, let alone method, as others have pointed out.  As I've said before, games have tendencies to drop in sales suddenly, which again would be more evidence against... your feelings?  Oh, your common sense.  I suppose the myriad of folks disagreeing with you have no common sense then?

Whatever then. Just a question, what do you think GoW will sell and why? Just that sometimes arguing on a forum you loose focus of the conversation, so lets get to the point.



BraLoD said:
Kyuu said:
Are there actually people expecting the lifetime sales of this to barely double the first 3 days (7-8 million)? Wouldn't that make it one of the most front-loaded titles of all time? SMH.

God of War will exceed 10 million, and a critically acclaimed TLoU2 will sell even better (likely around 15 million). I can no longer see Spider Man competing though.

Spidey never had a chance.

The "objective" quality is too high for Spider-Man to beat, even if I personally liked it more. I just vastly underestimated GoW's potential appeal.

BraLoD said:
LethalP said:

Why would you even think that? I think we should have come to learn by now that big budget, highly marketed PS4 exclusives sell 5 million in their sleep.

You mean Sony own flagship games, which it's not.

Some of you guys are having some really wishful thinking about the sales of this game. Get a look and how many exclusives sold over 5M on the PS4 that are not first party games. Zero.

Oh silly silly Bruh... Can you even name me a single true AAA PS4 exclusive that isn't owned by Sony? coz I can't think of any outside a few low budget "semi-exclusive" Japanese niche titles like NieR Automata, Persona 5 and Yakuza. Are these perhaps the games you're comparing it to?

Spider-Man pretty much is being treated as a flagship Sony franchise though. It'll be the first party equivalent of Batman Arkham series. What you're doing is akin to someone from the 90s expecting the PS1 Crash Bandicoot to not do so well because the IP wasn't owned by Sony. Spider-Man not belonging to Sony is hardly relevant, because they most likely signed a deal with Marvel.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2016-06-15-spider-man-leads-marvels-epic-new-console-strategy

"So along with the senior execs at Marvel and my team within the games business, we devised a brand new strategy to be very selective and only partner with the best game companies on earth."


"We've had a long history of success with Activision, and we still have a great relationship with them. But the future of the Spider-Man console games is with Sony and Insomniac. We're delighted about this partnership, and that's something that's going to continue forward."

If critically acclaimed, I expect the first Spider-Man to perform similarly to Horizon. The series can easily replicate Batman Arkham's success levels if the quality is there to push it. But will Spidey do well enough to topple Kratos and his brat? Probably not. Leave that task to the lovable bastards, Joel and Ellie :)



IkePoR said:
CalmFire said:

I don't think the past sales are relevant.  It is a different type of game in a different time, and we already have sales that put it not that far off from the LTD of the previous games.

This is a completely different situation.

Fair enough.  However this is a video game sales tracking site and typically the best way to track a sequel/reboot's sales data is it's history.  With that said, this GOW is very different as you mention.  This leaves us with little to compare it to.  So how is one meant to predict the sales of something if it has no comparable data?  The only semi reliable way is to review it's history.

A change in the directional tone of a game, or its quality, can be very significant. I was never interested in the God of War series until now. I'm definitely playing this one. There's also how they are marketed. The west weren't really very interested in the Yakuza series, until Yakuza 0, which wasn't really any different from the rest, but it had a lot of promotional awareness, like the meme of the real estate manager Nugget the chicken, which started off as a random tweet, and now Sega are printing Nugget business cards. These things got more reviewers interested in trying the series, which lead to it getting more critical acclaim, etc.
Persona 5 isn't particularly different than P3 and P4, but it was promoted with an emphasis on its style, and this seems to have worked out well as it hit 2 million in November 2017.

These are factors are hard to quantify though, so people will have to go with their gut feeling at times.

When it comes to Spiderman, one comment I see often is that this new one reminds them of Spiderman 2 for PS2/XB. And that is a good thing because that was a good game, and the last time I was interested in a Spiderman game, until now. Spiderman as an I.P. can be interesting, depending on what you do with it. And Insomniac's take on it is looking a lot more interesting than any previous entry in the series in recent times. This shows in trailers, so I would not be surprised if this one manages to outperform many of the previous Spiderman games.
If the previous Spiderman games were developed by the same developer, and were in the same vein as this one, then I would put more weight on comparing to previous sales. Right now I think that's not as big of a factor as it could have been.

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LethalP said:
BraLoD said:

You mean Sony own flagship games, which it's not.

Some of you guys are having some really wishful thinking about the sales of this game. Get a look and how many exclusives sold over 5M on the PS4 that are not first party games. Zero.

I don't think being made in house has much to do with it. PS4 has only had 3 big budget, highly rated, high selling exclusives, Uncharted 4, Horizon, and God Of War. The rest were either lesser budget and hype (Bloodborne/Until Dawn/The Last Guardian) and, or crap games (The Order 1886/Driveclub).

I don't see why you think that there's less hype for Spider-Man than UC4/Horizon/GoW. Don't say 'based on past games' tho, because you know that's bullshit.

For Kyuu too.

You'll see then, the game is not getting ANYWHERE close to Horizon, God of War and Uncharted 4, you guys are vastly overstimating it I don't know why. Those three games, are something on a complete different level, and really, there isn't a fraction of the hype for Spidey that we had for those.

I honestly don't see where are you coming from to think an Insomniac Spidey game will sell 10M copies out of the blue, it's like expecting Detroit to go and do it because it looks AAA...

Where is the appeal for this game to compare it to 4/5 years project from Guerilla, Santa Monica and Naughty Dog?

5M+ is where it'll land if it goes extremely well.



LethalP said:
IkePoR said:

Whether it passes the lifetime sales of GoW 3 or not isn't the point.  It was you invalidating the method of tracking the game by pointing at Horizon, which is absurd thinking, let alone method, as others have pointed out.  As I've said before, games have tendencies to drop in sales suddenly, which again would be more evidence against... your feelings?  Oh, your common sense.  I suppose the myriad of folks disagreeing with you have no common sense then?

Whatever then. Just a question, what do you think GoW will sell and why? Just that sometimes arguing on a forum you loose focus of the conversation, so lets get to the point.

Before we had numbers.... I thought GoW "might" do 10m.... that was when we heard pre-orders wherent doing so good.

Then critics review it and its in the 95-94 range, and we get the "Over 3.1m in 3days, sold though" report.
Ontop of japan/UK numbers that show it only dropped like ~35% in its 2nd week.

God of War is going to be massive... Im thinking it "could" do upwards of like 15m, depending on how Sony handle bundleing and stuff down the line. A 199$ PS4 slim bundled with God of War come christmas, should put in alot of work.

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Number of days to reach 60M from 50M : 187 days
Number of days to reach 70M from 60M : 175 days
Number of days to reach 80M from 70M : 227 days

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John2290 said:
BraLoD said:

You mean Sony own flagship games, which it's not.

Some of you guys are having some really wishful thinking about the sales of this game. Get a look and how many exclusives sold over 5M on the PS4 that are not first party games. Zero.

Yeah, A lot of people on here are equating Marvels movie success to this game. I think Sony are too and they'd be right in part, it'll have an effect for sure but only a cross over effect of Spiderman fans that already own a PS4. I'd reckon the meat of the sales of the games will be PS4 players who don't give a shit either way and just want a good game. If it see critic acclaim and I'm sure it will it'll see good sales, probably beat that 5 million number too but as some people are saying, 8..10..15 million...not a fucking chance.

I love Spidey as much as the next guy, if the game is amazing I hope it sells extremely well, but will it reach 10M? Oh boy, for sure it'll not.

Really don't see where it's coming from.



Hiku said:
IkePoR said:

A change in the directional tone of a game, or its quality, can be very significant. I was never interested in the God of War series until now. I'm definitely playing this one. There's also how they are marketed. The west weren't really very interested in the Yakuza series, until Yakuza 0, which wasn't really any different from the rest, but it had a lot of promotional awareness, like the meme of the real estate manager Nugget the chicken, which started off as a random tweet, and now Sega are printing Nugget business cards. These things got more reviewers interested in trying the series, which lead to it getting more critical acclaim, etc.
Persona 5 isn't particularly different than P3 and P4, but it was promoted with an emphasis on its style, and this seems to have worked out well as it hit 2 million in November 2017.

These are factors are hard to quantify though, so people will have to go with their gut feeling at times.

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Number of days to reach 50M from 40M : 198 days
Number of days to reach 60M from 50M : 187 days
Number of days to reach 70M from 60M : 175 days
Number of days to reach 80M from 70M : 227 days

Necro-bump this 2020: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=229249

LethalP said:
BraLoD said:

You mean Sony own flagship games, which it's not.

Some of you guys are having some really wishful thinking about the sales of this game. Get a look and how many exclusives sold over 5M on the PS4 that are not first party games. Zero.

I don't think being made in house has much to do with it. PS4 has only had 3 big budget, highly rated, high selling exclusives, Uncharted 4, Horizon, and God Of War. The rest were either lesser budget and hype (Bloodborne/Until Dawn/The Last Guardian) and, or crap games (The Order 1886/Driveclub).

I don't see why you think that there's less hype for Spider-Man than UC4/Horizon/GoW. Don't say 'based on past games' tho, because you know that's bullshit.

The Order, you could say, wasn't a very good game (although I found little wrong with it), but DRIVECLUB is anything but a 'crap game'. If fact, I'd love an explanation as to how you drew this conclusion. Not living up to expectations (although it did for plenty of people) =! a crap game.

 

BraLoD said: 
LethalP said: 

I don't think being made in house has much to do with it. PS4 has only had 3 big budget, highly rated, high selling exclusives, Uncharted 4, Horizon, and God Of War. The rest were either lesser budget and hype (Bloodborne/Until Dawn/The Last Guardian) and, or crap games (The Order 1886/Driveclub).

I don't see why you think that there's less hype for Spider-Man than UC4/Horizon/GoW. Don't say 'based on past games' tho, because you know that's bullshit.

 

I honestly don't see where are you coming from to think an Insomniac Spidey game will sell 10M copies out of the blue, it's like expecting Detroit to go and do it because it looks AAA...

Detroit is AAA, though. :P