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Best to ignore this rubbish and not give them any traffic, resist the urge to click clickbait and it will die down a bit more each time people don't click.



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Shaqazooloo0 said:
Can OP copy and paste bits of the article or put a summary of it?

Just reading the link made me refuse to click.

The interview starts with this, in which Corey Barlog (God of War director) is the interviewee.

Keep in mind this is the FIRST question...

Polygon:

"Playing the game, I kept thinking of the ongoing conversation about how we raise sons to not be utter garbage humans. How do we not intentionally or inadvertently teach them toxic masculine behavior? I’m curious, what conversations were you having in the office while you were putting together this story and the relationship between Kratos and Atreus?"



Those who whinge about others whinging are hypocrites and are thus just as bad as each other.

It is a video game. Give less of a shit about the various nuances and just enjoy it for what it is.

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TranceformerFX said:
Shaqazooloo0 said:
Can OP copy and paste bits of the article or put a summary of it?

Just reading the link made me refuse to click.

The interview starts with this, in which Corey Barlog (God of War director) is the interviewee.

Keep in mind this is the FIRST question...

Polygon:

"Playing the game, I kept thinking of the ongoing conversation about how we raise sons to not be utter garbage humans. How do we not intentionally or inadvertently teach them toxic masculine behavior? I’m curious, what conversations were you having in the office while you were putting together this story and the relationship between Kratos and Atreus?"

Keep in mind that is the only question? It's actually starting to make me sick that everyone is coming to conclusions without reading the excerpt, so here it is:

"Oh, so many. This relationship developed over so many years. But I think I say it a lot better now. As we were figuring all this stuff out, I kind of had my very crude straw man version [of things].

Knowing that five years was going to go into this [game], I knew that we’d have an incredible megaphone. We have the ability to say something with what we do, right? Which I think is awesome. And I think perhaps I didn’t take advantage of that so much when I was starting out [in games]. I was so, sort of, enamored that I didn’t really think too much about the things below it, right?

That’s not to say I hate the work I’ve done before, because I love all that. It’s just, I feel like as I get older, I’m looking at things a little bit differently. This lesson that I hoped to pass on to [my son]: that the concepts of strength and emotional vulnerability and the ability to sort of be free to feel the range of emotions, that these are not two warring or diametrically opposed concepts.

“We have the ability to say something with what we do”

That it is what makes us the whole human, right? And who better to be a canvas than a person who is so broken, who is so much of a fragment of a person, whose life was so traumatic? At 8 years old, [Kratos was] entered into the most fearsome military training regiment [in of all mankind]. The Spartans were turned into machines, instruments of war, and to have that be the way that you’re ushered into your formative years, it will absolutely turn you into what Kratos became.

There’s very little humanity that he had left [after the previous God of War games], but I do not believe that anyone is so far gone that they don’t have some way to pull them back from the brink. I think it’s been a fantastic, dramatic chance to be able to take that on for Kratos.

[There’s this] idea of him not knowing how to do these things, but his son not knowing any different, right? Because [Atreus] wasn’t fully raised by Kratos. [His mother] Faye did a lot of the work initially. [Kratos] was spending a lot of time out in the woods, trying to figure out how to get control of the demons inside of him — the monster inside of him that we, as his creators, allowed to be out all the time.

So we are, in a large portion, were responsible for the fact that [Kratos] is the monster at all times, and now we are in turn taking our responsibility to help him balance these things. The journey is that he’s not very good at it in the beginning, and that’s what’s so fascinating, right? That a young kid, a 10- to 12-year-old child, can teach this guy who’s lived for hundreds of years? Who’s ascended to the throne of the pantheon of Greek gods, and been responsible for the downfall of so many of these deities. He has so much learning to do.

Honestly, if that can be taken away, if people look at it and they can see there’s a complexity to being a human being ... and also that there’s different ways [to behave], not just the way it’s been done before.



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Why does it bother you that they are discussing such relevant topic?



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Polygon, Kotaku, EG...holly trinity of SJWankers, so no surprises there.



SJWs are bat shit crazy and they will likely be responsible for creating a progressive totalitarian government in the near future. ugh. 😽



Ka-pi96 said:
Aeolus451 said:
SJWs are bat shit crazy and they will likely be responsible for creating a progressive totalitarian government in the near future. ugh. 😽

You mean oppressive, right?

That could be a synonym for it but no.



Imagine any major publication using the term "Toxic Femininity." Smh



 

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Arminillo said:
TranceformerFX said:

The interview starts with this, in which Corey Barlog (God of War director) is the interviewee.

Keep in mind this is the FIRST question...

Polygon:

"Playing the game, I kept thinking of the ongoing conversation about how we raise sons to not be utter garbage humans. How do we not intentionally or inadvertently teach them toxic masculine behavior? I’m curious, what conversations were you having in the office while you were putting together this story and the relationship between Kratos and Atreus?"

Keep in mind that is the only question? It's actually starting to make me sick that everyone is coming to conclusions without reading the excerpt, so here it is:

I love how you glossed over/ignored the fact that Polygon asked a loaded question. Clearly you're not savy with journalism. This was a puff piece, plain and simple. Toxic masculinity isn't anymore of a problem than toxic feminism. Now, if the question went more along the lines of:

"Playing the game, I can't help but think of the ongoing climate change in how parents guide their children. Whether it be negatively or positively, and how we can can teach them to avoid certain behavior that society deems unacceptable now. Im curious if the political topics that this country is facing factored into designing the relationship between Kratos & Atreus. And if so, did those result in office discussions?"

 

That would be an example of honest journalism, because that leaves Corey Barlog to make the connection to "toxic masculinity" if that was ACTUALLY his belief instead of the journalists belief. Instead, "Toxic Masculinity" is already assumed before the interview even starts, resulting in an echo chamber of conversations without gauging Corey Barlogs actual opinions.

 

This interview is not only blatantly scripted, but also conducted with the purpose of signaling one's political virtues. I'm glad Corey Barlog rose his SJW flag to let everyone know that he supports first wave totalitarianism.