Amateur porn or a happy porn star to watch?

Some love what they do but I wonder how much of a front it is cause when they leave they only have bad things to say (Mia Khalifa)

And those bad things are always about how OTHERS treat them or see them. it's not sex that is the problem here, it is the reaction of ignorant people to sex. Mia Khalifa is a perfect example. Her problem is not sex or making it her career, it's other people threatening her over her choices because they are too ignorant to realize that sex is natural so their obvious reaction is violence and threats and THAT is what can push some actresses to depression or unhappiness.

I did?

So my input has been directly requested on the grounds that I am female. After reading a few pages of the replies, honestly I think I can understand why. However, it should be said that I'm just one person, and hardly an expert in curing addictions of any kind. I find it a very daunting, indeed impossible, task to try and represent all women with my one voice, my one lived experience, and even more impossible to try and posit a definite, viable path out of any kind of addiction. Therefore I will simply voice my own opinions.

The truth is that I can't really relate to the problem that VGPolygot relays in the OP. There are many reasons why. First of all, I'm a lesbian, and by that I mean properly lesbian, not bisexual. The general contents of online pornography have never been especially relatable or appealing to me hence for obvious reasons. Secondly, I'm also a product of a different time. I grew up mostly before the average person had an Internet connection of any kind, let alone the convenience of smart devices and cable-based download speeds. (You can probably tell as much by the fact that I still reflexively capitalize the I in the word Internet. :P)

When I was a teenager, "porn" most often meant the kind of material one found in Playboy magazine, which was just models and prominent women posing nude (and duly airbrushed) astride various pieces of furniture, and most men didn't spend a lot of time consuming it. As recently as 2002, a Kinsey Institute survey found, for example, that just 25% of the male population in the United States reported having digested pornographic material within the preceding month. In my observation, men who felt that they needed visual aid to masturbate generally turned to only semi-pornographic material, such as the annual Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue or the general contents of MTV, and even that was considered somewhat controversial. Seems quaint now, doesn't it? But I think it's worth adding that I never related much to that world either. I think women who are attracted to women often have different criteria for what constitutes beauty. I know I did.

My own teen years were lonely, both romantically and sexually. I discovered my orientation gradually, through experience, and lived (and live) in an area that is very conservative, where practically nobody who is gay is out as gay, myself included. I tended to believe that there was something wrong with me. Sometimes I found fronts to avoid scaring my parents, like fake-dating the one gay guy I knew of as cover so I'd pass as straight. Masturbation? I used my imagination. So that's where I'm coming from.

Anyway, I was asked specifically "how you feel pornography has affected people's views on women". Personally, I feel that stories like this and this illustrate where the potential lies. More commonly, I think the fact that a recent survey found that 53% of male teenagers and 39% of female teens believed that the typical material in online pornography was "realistic" shows that it is affecting what kind of sexual relationships men and women have more and more often, starting at a young age. I mean basically I think what men learn from digesting the kind of material that is readily available today is a sense of not just entitlement, but obligation to always be sexually dominant, perhaps to the point of abuse, and what women learn is that we're supposed to feign enjoyment of pain and suffering and never think of getting off ourselves. I think it may also be worth taking in that many of those "rough" videos one can find online are not faked. Many of those are recordings of actual rape, to judge by the testimonies of women who survive them.

I guess if you feel that you cannot successfully masturbate without aid, then the route I would most recommend might be something like what Farsala suggested on page 3. But also bear in mind that what Contestgamer said shortly thereafter has some key truth to it: one should not kid themselves; there is no "respectful" form of pornography (real or animated). There are no such things as legitimate amateur sites that I'm aware of (they're all paid actors too). "Lesbian" porn is also clearly made with a male target audience in mind, to judge by the fact that 100% of them are the perfectly "femme" kind that men prefer to look at and tend to act more like men would act. But I will say that it's no coincidence that the most common porn-related search term even among heterosexual women is "lesbian". That's because so-called lesbian porn is the only kind out there that focuses on clitoral stimulation instead of penile stimulation.

The most important thing though is simply that one realize that pornography isn't realistic in its conveyance of what pleases people (especially women) in real life. Very few women enjoy things like anal sex or delivering oral sex or being hit in any form of fashion, for example (and I would question the self-esteem of those who purport to, for that matter), and the women who pretend to in online porn videos themselves are rarely exceptions to these rules. Simply realizing that is the most important thing really, I believe.

Would you leave your wife for a proper VR lara croft that you could touch aswell?

You are trying to say that there is no woman around the globe that enjoy rough sex?

BraLoD said: Knew the thread would be yours

Haha same. xD

I don't believe that your respect for women and your consumption of porn necessarily have to be linked. I think it's possible to enjoy porn and respect women.

The porn industry is sometimes destructive, true, but your participation (meaning: watching videos on the internet) is negligible to the way the porn industry is run. Whether you watch or do not watch a video will not change anything for any human being -- apart from yourself and your personal enjoyment.

If you're concerned about the "dehumanization" of porn, and that saps your ability to enjoy such media, try to keep in mind that not all porn actresses (and actors for that matter) consider themselves to be dehumanized; some consider themselves to be empowered, and to enjoy the sex -- and the money and fame. Don't consider yourself responsible to figure out which is which: give people the benefit of the doubt in that they are making choices for themselves to better their own lives and circumstances (which, I'll add, I think is a position consonant with "respecting women"; assuming that women in the porn industry are being manipulated into doing things they don't "really" want to do, etc., strikes me as patronizing).

I'll also say that you have no responsibility to "chase women," which isn't something I'd recommend anyways. Sex is great. Relationships are great. (Or these can be great, at least.) But you shouldn't do anything you don't feel comfortable doing -- and that goes for watching porn, too. Don't force yourself to be other than what you are. Just recognize that there's nothing wrong with your taking pleasure in porn, and that you have no moral duty to abstain from it.

1. Do you have any moral qualms listening to rock n roll music? Buying shirts and shoes made in poor countries? Eating human flesh?
2. Why do you think it’s a stressful hassle to get laid? It’s really quite the opposite :D

Why not mix the two, invite a woman over to watch some porn with you? A good many women are shy about it, but if you ask around you’ll be surprised at the answers you’ll find. Also, watching porn with a woman, especially with a glass of wine, can really get the mood going.

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