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o_O.Q said:
Farsala said:

It's a lot more complicated than that. I would argue that advertising with sexualized women is much worse than a site that is meant to be sexual with a sexualized woman. Especially since none of these women are being coerced to do it with money or otherwise like one would with mainstream porn. Advertising affect children from the moment that they can see, porn sites won't be discovered by them until much later.

what does sexualized mean to you?

People in a sexual manner? Which is debatable for all, as back in the day an ankle could be seen as sexual. Personally, I think a person can be sexy no matter how they appear clothed or nude.

As I said sexualizing people for a sexual audience is much much better than sexualizing people in advertising or movies or tv shows where it is usually out of place.



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you shouldnt be concerned about that respect thing ... there are women who like the same shit you do.



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Farsala said:
o_O.Q said:

what does sexualized mean to you?

People in a sexual manner? Which is debatable for all, as back in the day an ankle could be seen as sexual. Personally, I think a person can be sexy no matter how they appear clothed or nude.

As I said sexualizing people for a sexual audience is much much better than sexualizing people in advertising or movies or tv shows where it is usually out of place.

you seem to be confused to me 

at one point you state that "sexualization" is inherent to the human body

" back in the day an ankle could be seen as sexual. Personally, I think a person can be sexy no matter how they appear clothed or nude."

but then you state that its bad for the media to "sexualize"

if the human body is inherently sexual which you appear to have implied... then sexualization based on what i understand of your statements is unavoidable in advertising that includes people



kljesta64 said:
you shouldnt be concerned about that respect thing ... there are women who like the same shit you do.

every man should be concerned about respecting women as their paramount value when interacting with women

how the hell can you claim otherwise?



o_O.Q said:
kljesta64 said:
you shouldnt be concerned about that respect thing ... there are women who like the same shit you do.

every man should be concerned about respecting women as their paramount value when interacting with women

how the hell can you claim otherwise?

we're talking about one specific topic here. in no way did i say not to respect women.



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Keiner kann ihn bremsen, keiner macht ihm was vor. Immer der richtige Schuss, immer zur richtigen Zeit. Superfussball, Fairer Fussball. Er ist unser Torschützenkönig und Held.

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o_O.Q said:
Farsala said:

People in a sexual manner? Which is debatable for all, as back in the day an ankle could be seen as sexual. Personally, I think a person can be sexy no matter how they appear clothed or nude.

As I said sexualizing people for a sexual audience is much much better than sexualizing people in advertising or movies or tv shows where it is usually out of place.

you seem to be confused to me 

at one point you state that "sexualization" is inherent to the human body

" back in the day an ankle could be seen as sexual. Personally, I think a person can be sexy no matter how they appear clothed or nude."

but then you state that its bad for the media to "sexualize"

if the human body is inherently sexual which you appear to have implied... then sexualization based on what i understand of your statements is unavoidable in advertising that includes people

Yep its unavoidable, its natural to have sexual feelings. But its intent that matters. The media and mainstream porn showcases bodies that are impossible. Clothed people, partially clothed people, or nude people shouldn't be seen as a bad thing.  If people saw more clothed or naked bodies naturally without all the added editing, then I believe society would be better off.



Farsala said:
o_O.Q said:

you seem to be confused to me 

at one point you state that "sexualization" is inherent to the human body

" back in the day an ankle could be seen as sexual. Personally, I think a person can be sexy no matter how they appear clothed or nude."

but then you state that its bad for the media to "sexualize"

if the human body is inherently sexual which you appear to have implied... then sexualization based on what i understand of your statements is unavoidable in advertising that includes people

Yep its unavoidable, its natural to have sexual feelings. But its intent that matters. The media and mainstream porn showcases bodies that are impossible. Clothed people, partially clothed people, or nude people shouldn't be seen as a bad thing.  If people saw more clothed or naked bodies naturally without all the added editing, then I believe society would be better off.

what do you mean by impossible? are you talking about cgi images? or real people?



o_O.Q said:
Farsala said:

Yep its unavoidable, its natural to have sexual feelings. But its intent that matters. The media and mainstream porn showcases bodies that are impossible. Clothed people, partially clothed people, or nude people shouldn't be seen as a bad thing.  If people saw more clothed or naked bodies naturally without all the added editing, then I believe society would be better off.

what do you mean by impossible? are you talking about cgi images? or real people?

To relate to video games, at some point in the future graphics might become more real than real. And by that I mean imagine you are in VR and you can see 5 miles in the distance perfectly, or that nature is more detailed than what it would be in real life.

Similar impossibilities are used by the media and mainstream porn. Airbrushing  and touchups to make someone look more perfect. Longer legs, bigger eyes, longer neck, a ton of makeup etc. Models who lose a ton of weight for photo day, only to regain it back for a more normal weight. Fake boobs, butt, nose etc. Camera manipulation and lighting with unreasonable positions etc. etc. the list goes on.



Farsala said:
o_O.Q said:

what do you mean by impossible? are you talking about cgi images? or real people?

To relate to video games, at some point in the future graphics might become more real than real. And by that I mean imagine you are in VR and you can see 5 miles in the distance perfectly, or that nature is more detailed than what it would be in real life.

Similar impossibilities are used by the media and mainstream porn. Airbrushing  and touchups to make someone look more perfect. Longer legs, bigger eyes, longer neck, a ton of makeup etc. Models who lose a ton of weight for photo day, only to regain it back for a more normal weight. Fake boobs, butt, nose etc. Camera manipulation and lighting with unreasonable positions etc. etc. the list goes on.

"Airbrushing  and touchups to make someone look more perfect. Longer legs, bigger eyes, longer neck, a ton of makeup etc. Models who lose a ton of weight for photo day, only to regain it back for a more normal weight. Fake boobs, butt, nose etc. Camera manipulation and lighting with unreasonable positions etc. etc. the list goes on."

you are coming very close here to criticising women who use makeup and plastic surgery to achieve an enhanced appearance

i myself know of a women who recently had a very expensive surgery to suck the fat from her belly and put it in her ass to appear more curvy



o_O.Q said:
Farsala said:

To relate to video games, at some point in the future graphics might become more real than real. And by that I mean imagine you are in VR and you can see 5 miles in the distance perfectly, or that nature is more detailed than what it would be in real life.

Similar impossibilities are used by the media and mainstream porn. Airbrushing  and touchups to make someone look more perfect. Longer legs, bigger eyes, longer neck, a ton of makeup etc. Models who lose a ton of weight for photo day, only to regain it back for a more normal weight. Fake boobs, butt, nose etc. Camera manipulation and lighting with unreasonable positions etc. etc. the list goes on.

"Airbrushing  and touchups to make someone look more perfect. Longer legs, bigger eyes, longer neck, a ton of makeup etc. Models who lose a ton of weight for photo day, only to regain it back for a more normal weight. Fake boobs, butt, nose etc. Camera manipulation and lighting with unreasonable positions etc. etc. the list goes on."

you are coming very close here to criticising women who use makeup and plastic surgery to achieve an enhanced appearance

i myself know of a women who recently had a very expensive surgery to suck the fat from her belly and put it in her ass to appear more curvy

I am fine with personal decisions, I just don't like corporate decisions.