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Ganoncrotch on 07 May 2018
mZuzek said:
XanderXT said:
So... anyone here think that the Snap itself was kinda underwhelming?

It's weird, isn't it? I wonder how a snap works if you're wearing a metal gauntlet. Surely it shouldn't sound like a snap?

Thanos clanking his fingers wouldn't quite sound right in the script though :D

I thought the audio in the aftermath of the snap was amazingly done, just so haunting... and watching a super young Spiderman saying Sorry to Tony Stark for him dying... I mean how fucking haunting must that be for Iron Man? The kid he bought to the fight turned to ash with him powerless to stop it.



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Insidb on 07 May 2018
PwerlvlAmy said:
the whole ''we can still fix this'' time skip thing is such a cop out, you know damn well everyone is coming back next movie using that cop out. Its lame lol

The comics already laid the groundwork for this outcome, and the time stone can't save them.

Explaining that would be a mega spoiler, though.



Ganoncrotch on 07 May 2018
mZuzek said:
Ganoncrotch said:

But what could he have done in Civil war? dematerialize his fists and have them reemerge inside the rebels body's killing them instantly. I just mean it's sort of a Batman V Superman issue... one is a guy in a suit that his butler tends to... the other is a God who can Sneeze entire galaxies away by accident... how can you bring these two beings together and have a fair fight on screen which makes any sense. Vision just remained at the back of the civil war fight watching over the battle... was really all he could do outside of passing through ant man for comedy sake basically. He did use his power to make his body solid as diamonds to block a bus from flying at.... someone, think it was Widow maybe.

This is why I'm hoping to see him return Vs Thanos, because he could have a full on fight with him to try to get his Mind Stone back even if Vision is just a combination of Jarvis/Ultron and Vibranium  in part 2

I'm not saying he should have done more. If anything, he just shouldn't have been in that movie (along with Wanda), but they needed those two to 1. make the conflict more relevant by having more characters, and 2. develop a relationship and have more screen time in an attempt to make the audience care more about them before Infinity War. It shouldn't be weird that those two were essentially a non-presence in the airport battle, but it is because they could have nullified each other instead of doing nothing. And of course, when Vision tries to stop Cap from getting to a plane by dropping a fucking tower in front of them... lol.

Might have been a better idea for them to rethink the scene and leave them out of the airport battle altogether? Just have Hawkeye turn up to the Avengers building and get declined by Wanda to leave and join them, I understand she didn't like being under house arrest there, but they could have tried to evolve their relationship at the Avengers building instead... maybe have Wanda show vision the fighting going on without them there and have her convince him that sometimes you just have to fight... I dunno but think they might have suffered for the sake of showing up at that fight just for the sake of getting all the Avengers there to that fight for trailer shots or posters....

It did look awesome though...



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Insidb on 07 May 2018
Ganoncrotch said:

Funny out, going by Tesco I noticed some Infinity war toys... the Thor one spoils three parts of the movie if you're going in blind to it.
Thor with 2 eyes, one a different colour than the other.



Thor is also holding the Axe forged for him in the film by Tyrion Lannister



and of course....

Wtf if you look at Thanos's Gauntlet....

Seeing as he has an infinity stone he never wielded in IF, maybe they're going to introduce the other 3 stones in part 2.



LipeJJ on 08 May 2018
mZuzek said:
LipeJJ said:
Watched it last friday and I gotta say I loved it! It easily surpassed my expectations. I don't consider myself a fan, and I certainly don't understand some things, but I'm really liking this MCU. Guardians of the Galaxy is already among my favorite franchises ever, and I'm really liking the new Spiderman (it's very fresh and fun in a good way). Doctor Strange was another movie I liked too.

Anyway, I still need to complain about some things. It's nothing major, just things that bugged me a bit. One of those things is how Vision was handled inconsistently. I mean, he seemed powerful on other movies, but on Infinity War he looked like the weakest of the bunch (Wanda seemed inconsistent for me too). He couldn't keep with the black order guys at all and had his ass handled to him the whole movie by ANY enemy. I mean, wtf? Isn't he supposed to be powerful since he has an infinity stone carved on his head? O.o He should be able to at least put up a fight.

It was made clear at the beginning of the movie that Vision is "evolving", and this evolution is essentially him becoming more human. I think it makes sense if he's starting to become more human, that he feels different kinds of emotions and feels more at comfort with the world, he'd let himself be affected by things more easily and not be able to make full use of his powers as easily.

Also, the Black Order dudes basically had an "anti-Vision" spear because plot, so, that.

Anyway, nice to see someone coming into this franchise more recently and really loving it. I must say it's hard to not love the MCU right now, every single Phase 3 (2016 on) movie was great, and they just seem to keep getting better and better too. Did you see Black Panther?

That makes sense. Btw, I totally missed the "anti-Vision" spear part. There was so much going on that it made me excited and distracted me sometimes. That's why I'm going to see it a second time this weekend (saturday). I want to catch details and stuff, not to mention the awesome fights.

And yeah, it's hard to dislike the universe even for someone whose favorite heroes were from DC as a kid (Batman and Wonder Woman). It's like I said, I've never been huge on super heroes, but the ones I liked the most as a kid were from DC, aside from Spiderman, so it's kind of surprising to me that I'm falling in love with the Marvel Universe. 

About Black Panther: I've seen it and I really liked it. Thought it was overhyped a bit, but still a great addition to the MCU. Now I'm looking forward to Captain Marvel... that's going to be very interesting.



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Ganoncrotch on 08 May 2018
mZuzek said:
LipeJJ said:

That makes sense. Btw, I totally missed the "anti-Vision" spear part. There was so much going on that it made me excited and distracted me sometimes. That's why I'm going to see it a second time this weekend (saturday). I want to catch details and stuff, not to mention the awesome fights.

And yeah, it's hard to dislike the universe even for someone whose favorite heroes were from DC as a kid (Batman and Wonder Woman). It's like I said, I've never been huge on super heroes, but the ones I liked the most as a kid were from DC, aside from Spiderman, so it's kind of surprising to me that I'm falling in love with the Marvel Universe. 

About Black Panther: I've seen it and I really liked it. Thought it was overhyped a bit, but still a great addition to the MCU. Now I'm looking forward to Captain Marvel... that's going to be very interesting.

I see. This seems to be the general "internet consensus", if that's a thing, about Black Panther. I really struggle to understand it, as I couldn't see anything in the movie that wasn't amazing, and mostly everyone I know personally considers it to be easily one of the best superhero movies ever.

As for your favorite heroes growing up, well, it speaks for itself. You're not huge on superheroes, so your favorites were very much the most mainstream ones - since Spider-Man was Marvel's only truly mainstream hero before the MCU, except maybe Hulk, he was always going to be your favorite. I mean, he definitely was my favorite growing up and I'm sure he was mostly everyone else's, too.

I've seen Infinity War twice, and I'm thinking about a third time already. I think it'd be a good experience to maybe go alone the third time, it really allows you to focus more and soak in the movie and catch all the little details and dialog nuances and all (that's a lot of "and"). I guess I really just can't help myself when there's Guardians of the Galaxy on a cinema screen - I can only imagine how much less I'd have enjoyed Infinity War if not for them, which isn't at all to say the other characters aren't awesome too, but, you know.

The "anti-Vision" spear thing though, it wasn't explicitely explained or anything, so I'm not sure you really missed anything. I just called it that because well, any other spear in the universe would just go through Vision.

I think the line he says is "I wasn't able to phase to dodge it" to which Wanda asks him if that was even possible, to which he replies "I didn't know it was" so Vision and her are shocked that they had the power to stop him being able to have super powers.

Keep in mind him being able to Phase does 2 things, he can change his body so that he has really low density by phasing his matter into another realm and being able to pass through things like Ant Man in Civil War, but he can also Phase more matter into this realm and make his body harder than diamonds which is what would stop him being stabbed... or from having the mind stone ripped out of his forehead, without the ability to control his phasing, Vision has almost no super powers other than his intellect. (afaik, could be wrong)



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LipeJJ on 08 May 2018
mZuzek said:
LipeJJ said:

That makes sense. Btw, I totally missed the "anti-Vision" spear part. There was so much going on that it made me excited and distracted me sometimes. That's why I'm going to see it a second time this weekend (saturday). I want to catch details and stuff, not to mention the awesome fights.

And yeah, it's hard to dislike the universe even for someone whose favorite heroes were from DC as a kid (Batman and Wonder Woman). It's like I said, I've never been huge on super heroes, but the ones I liked the most as a kid were from DC, aside from Spiderman, so it's kind of surprising to me that I'm falling in love with the Marvel Universe. 

About Black Panther: I've seen it and I really liked it. Thought it was overhyped a bit, but still a great addition to the MCU. Now I'm looking forward to Captain Marvel... that's going to be very interesting.

I see. This seems to be the general "internet consensus", if that's a thing, about Black Panther. I really struggle to understand it, as I couldn't see anything in the movie that wasn't amazing, and mostly everyone I know personally considers it to be easily one of the best superhero movies ever.

(Edit: actually thinking about it, I think I have an answer: music. I'm a sucker for a good soundtrack, it's something that can make or break a movie or game to me. Sometimes it's the difference between something becoming an all-time favorite, or being completely unremarkable in mediocrity. And for all the things I liked about Black Panther, none were as impressive as its soundtrack. I absolutely loved the sound of it, it made every scene 10 times more exciting to me, and gave the movie a real sense of character and identity. I'm listening to the music now, which is why I brought this up. It's easily the best OST in any Marvel film, so maybe that's why I loved it so much. There you go.)

As for your favorite heroes growing up, well, it speaks for itself. You're not huge on superheroes, so your favorites were very much the most mainstream ones - since Spider-Man was Marvel's only truly mainstream hero before the MCU, except maybe Hulk, he was always going to be your favorite. I mean, he definitely was my favorite growing up and I'm sure he was mostly everyone else's, too.

I've seen Infinity War twice, and I'm thinking about a third time already. I think it'd be a good experience to maybe go alone the third time, it really allows you to focus more and soak in the movie and catch all the little details and dialog nuances and all (that's a lot of "and"). I guess I really just can't help myself when there's Guardians of the Galaxy on a cinema screen - I can only imagine how much less I'd have enjoyed Infinity War if not for them, which isn't at all to say the other characters aren't awesome too, but, you know.

The "anti-Vision" spear thing though, it wasn't explicitely explained or anything, so I'm not sure you really missed anything. I just called it that because well, any other spear in the universe would just go through Vision.

Actually, I started liking Spiderman due to the games, which were great at the time. After that, I started watching the show and movies, which I liked a lot too. Hulk always looked uninteresting to me, and he still does to be honest. xD I still can't over the fact Homecoming was so good. <3

Btw, I'm in love in Shuri. She's always so interesting to watch. I mean, the support characters in Black Panther were all strong and I liked their contribution to Infinity War. I'm so anxious to see part 2 now... can't imagine what they'll do honestly. Haven't been this excited since The Force Awakens was announced years ago.



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LipeJJ on 08 May 2018
mZuzek said:
LipeJJ said:

Actually, I started liking Spiderman due to the games, which were great at the time. After that, I started watching the show and movies, which I liked a lot too. Hulk always looked uninteresting to me, and he still does to be honest. xD I still can't over the fact Homecoming was so good. <3

Btw, I'm in love in Shuri. She's always so interesting to watch. I mean, the support characters in Black Panther were all strong and I liked their contribution to Infinity War. I'm so anxious to see part 2 now... can't imagine what they'll do honestly. Haven't been this excited since The Force Awakens was announced years ago.

Yeah, everyone played those Spider-Man games growing up, and yeah, everyone finds Hulk uninteresting too

About part 2, yeah, it's impossibly hard to wait for it, they set it up so well. If anything, you can imagine what it's like when your favorite character is the only one out of his group who stayed alive, basically meaning he'll take front and center stage when it comes to representing them... then again I'm also scared of the prospect, because they could always fuck it up. It's weird I still have fears over that, though, as it's been so long since Marvel last fucked up and it's not like they haven't been getting chances to.

Really? I know lots of people that go crazy over Hulk and I never understood his appeal honestly. I also don't understand why he's so powerful.  

Regarding part 2, I have a fear they might "trade" Rocket for the other Guardians. I hope none of them die tho. I can live with any losses, except Peter Parker, Dr. Strange & the Guardians of the Galaxy. I hope they return.



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d21lewis on 08 May 2018
mZuzek said:
XanderXT said:
So... anyone here think that the Snap itself was kinda underwhelming?

It's weird, isn't it? I wonder how a snap works if you're wearing a metal gauntlet. Surely it shouldn't sound like a snap?

He used the power of the gauntlet to change the sound, obviously.



zorg1000 on 09 May 2018
mZuzek said:

I see. This seems to be the general "internet consensus", if that's a thing, about Black Panther. I really struggle to understand it, as I couldn't see anything in the movie that wasn't amazing, and mostly everyone I know personally considers it to be easily one of the best superhero movies ever.

I found the final fight between Black Panther & Killmonger to be pretty poor.

Other than that there wasnt anything bad about the film, but on the other hand nothing really stood out either other than the score.

I thought it was good but not amazing like i had been hearing.



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