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Should "Likes" display the list of users?

Yes! 51 63.75%
 
No! 29 36.25%
 
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VGPolyglot on 25 April 2018
fatslob-:O said:
CrazyGamer2017 said:

You really believe some people on this forum is going to go ballistic at the people who likes a comment? But they will not go ballistic if the person who likes the comment makes a comment instead of liking a comment?

In other words someone writes "I hate Republicans, they suck". If I put a "like" on that comment I'll be hunted down and I'm dead? but if I DO NOT like that comment but simply reply "I agree, Republicans are the worst and I hate them too". Then I won't be hunted down and targeted? Why would someone want to target me if I LIKE a comment he takes offense at but at the same time he won't target me if I WRITE a comment  he takes offense at?  That absolutely makes no sense to me.

In the meantime I noticed your comment I'm replying to right now has one "Like". So MODS I need to know who liked Fatslob's comment cause I'm supposed to hunt that person down, since I disagree with Fatslob. I'm not hunting Fatslob down cause he WROTE his opinion, I'm just going to hunt down whoever liked his opinion, cause I'm fine with people WRITING their opinion in the forum but "LIKING" an opinion? Well that's where I draw the line and I say hunting season is on!

@Bold With guys that are ideologically driven as VGPolygot is, who are trying their hardest to remove me and slimebeast from these boards it would be prudent to believe that people like them WILL keep track of those who liked our posts since they deem our beliefs to be dangerous. It's a pretty similar scenario where if you don't subscribe to ResetERA's concept of "social justice" and if they had a transparent like system showing who liked posts that shared similar opposing ideals like ours then the user will be persecuted by the community until the end of their days in that community ... 

I have to hand it to you, that's twice that you've called me out to the point that I returned from an absence sooner than I expected In any case, I don't see how a like button with the names makes things worse, I've already criticized you before the system even existed, and it's not like I will go after people just for liking a post, unless of course they also make posts like that too which will essentially mean that nothing's changed. I am glad to see that I worry you though to be honest, if people are worried about me coming at them for saying racist things then I can truly say that I actually have made a difference. If you don't want me coming at you, then it's simple: just stop posting that stuff. If you continue to do it of course I'm going to continue to call you out on it.



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kirby007 on 25 April 2018

"Absent"



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CrazyGamer2017 on 25 April 2018
kirby007 said:
TalonMan said:

I did it to prove a point...

Better point would have been that digg died, we aint reddit and lots of websites use your system. And then slap a ban on him for being a troll

I have to agree with you on this. I clearly asked him to explain what reasons he has to disagree with someone without explaining why and he blew me off. No explanation given. I must take his word that he's got good reasons when he does not care to explain why.

So as far as I'm concerned he has NO good reasons whatsoever to disagree with anyone since he has no argument to defend his disagreement.



VGPolyglot on 25 April 2018
kirby007 said:
"Absent"

Well, nothing was going to stop me from lurking



fatslob-:O on 25 April 2018
CrazyGamer2017 said:

The interesting thing is a agree with what you are saying but ONLY in REAL LIFE. I consider websites like Facebook extremely dangerous because people put a ton of very real info there: Actual names, face pictures, family members, address, place of work, political opinions etc. How many times I have read in some forums people actually get threatened for something they said? And if you have all your info out there it would be downright dangerous. So your reasoning is not entirely wrong in my opinion but only in real life.... Over here we are anonymous to begin with.

Also if someone wants to harass me here, they have plenty of opportunity to do so with my controversial opinions, they really don't need to worry about which comments I like, to have an excuse to harass me if they choose to do so. I can't stop people from hating me if they choose to. Well the only way I can stop it is by simply never writing down my opinions then they wouldn't have any reasons to get on my case. But in that case why even make an account in a forum? Lurking on VGC to look at the charts and the video gaming news is enough.

I find it bad enough that in real life one often must shut up because it can be dangerous to freely express oneself so I don't wish to shut up in an anonymous forum just cause someone could get on my case. Also this is part of the fun of being on a forum, exchanging ideas, seeing who agrees with you and who disagrees and why. So about this like system I'll say this: I don't mind a transparent system where your likes are public, but if it bothers some people so much then I'm good too with a like system where only the author of the liked comment knows you liked his/her comment and the like can remain anonymous to everybody else.

I'm going to assume that you and everybody else who do not want a transparent like system would agree to this?

PS: I just liked your comment I'm replying to. So if someone wants to harass me cause I liked your comment, let them go right ahead and see what happens.

Actually, threats are a real thing over the internet and it doesn't mean that the disgruntled victim won't track you down either ... 

There's many reasons to sign up an account for VGC and maybe they have a goal in mind that they don't want to get into a contentious conflict either so the like system is a way to express persistent beliefs for them ... 

And yeah if we're going to make likes transparent then it should only be the author of the comment who realizes their participants business because it's not any of the outsiders concern of who liked the author's posts ... 

Edit: LOL, VGP showed up making demands to stop my accused racism but I can tell he doesn't want to have these discussions that causes so much distress for him ... 

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kirby007 on 25 April 2018

Get that logic of my internet talon reee



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CrazyGamer2017 on 25 April 2018
TalonMan said:

Guys - I get all of this, I do. BUT, this is all V O L U N T A R Y ! ! ! ! Nobody is forcing you to click anything, there's no functionality taken away (or provided) based on whether you click the silly button - and if you accidentally DO manage to click it, you can just click it again to undo.

Yes - agreeing with a post has consequences, sometimes. ABSOLUTELY!!! And so, just as I said before, if it's a post you wouldn't quote and type "Agreed!" to, then it's also not a post you would want to click the thumb on and put yourself down as "Agreeing with"...    ...mountain vs. mole hill????  :(

Okay but why are you telling me this, I have been agreeing to a transparent like system to begin with. I just said that I wouldn't mind if it's anonymous and that only the author of the comment you like should know you like his comment to mend fences with those who oppose a transparent liking system.

OMG Talondude, someone just liked your comment, tell me who it is cause I'm gonna hunt the bastard down and I'm going to ki... Oh wait, It's just me, hehe, I'm the one who liked your comment... Hmm does that mean I must hunt myself down? Oh Shit, I know who I am, I know what I look like and I know where I live. Oh man I'm so dead!



Aeolus451 on 25 April 2018
potato_hamster said:
Aeolus451 said:

Someone being mean on the net is not dishonest. Alot of the behaviour you're describing isn't dishonest either. The intention behind trolling isn't dishonest but how someone goes about it can be honest or dishonest. Sure, anonymity brings out some of worst sides of people but it allows for the greatest range of topics to be discussed including the taboo. It's a completely worthwhile double-edged sword to have especially with all the activists out there trying to go after people's jobs or ruin others' lives over shit posts. 

So people can like whatever they want on this forum without any kind of repercussion. Why do you want to know who likes something? It's just an anonymous like system. It's not we're talking about allowing people to be shitty to others on here and getting away with it.

So people saying things they do not believe to hurt someone, or performing hurtful actions they would never perform just to hurt someone isn't dishonest? It sounds to me that you need to go back and look up what the word "dishonesty" means.

I personally don't care about the like system in any way, but acting like adding an extra layer of anonymity to an already totally anonymous message board is completely necessary to ensure more honesty is just patently ridiculous.

Maybe you need to read what I actually wrote before you suggest that I should look up dishonesty.

Well, what we post is held against us regardless if it's benign, geniune, satire or  bad. You critique something and somebody takes it personally. It would be no different with likes. Some people would want ya to explain every little like on each controversial post. Some would treat ya differently or hold it against ya. I'm all for anonymity with likes.



Metallox on 25 April 2018

I embrace this new feature, just hope VGChartz never goes full N4G.



My bet with The_Liquid_Laser: I think the Switch won't surpass the PS2 as the best selling system of all time. If it does, I'll play a game of a list that The_Liquid_Laser will provide, I will have to play it for 50 hours or complete it, whatever comes first. 

potato_hamster on 25 April 2018
CrazyGamer2017 said:
potato_hamster said:

That's definitely not the only reason why you might be unwilling to explain why you disgaree, as that's obviously a false dilemma. Then again, this thread is full of them, so why stop now?

It actually is the only reason. You worry that your reasons might be debunked so you want to "shoot" the other side but not expose yourself. It's fundamentally unfair and it goes against the very structure of a debate.

If I don't know why you disagree how can I show you that you are wrong? You have to do a little better than just say you disagree cause if you don't say why you disagree, you are not actually disagreeing, you are just using the words "I disagree" as empty words.

But by all means explain yourself and tell me WHAT reasons you could possibly have to not explain why you disagree?

Example:

Post: "Bold Prediction: Xbox One will outsell the PS4 and Switch COMBINED in 2018"

Response: "Nope. not happening."

Yeah, I'm totally sure that person is worried that their reasons might be debunked. That could be the only reason why they didn't go into more detail why they don't think the Xbox One will outsell the PS4 and Switch combined in 2018. It's not like the reasons might be totally obvious, or that going into great detail into why that's not going to happen isn't worth the time to type it out.

Nope. They're afraid of being proven wrong, and that's all there is to it according to you.

 

edit: Caught up to the rest of this thread. Can't believe that honest, legitimate feedback is viewed as "trolling" and ban-worthy by some people. Ridiculous. Either way, I'm done with this thread. I've said what I've had to say on the matter.

Last edited by potato_hamster - on 25 April 2018