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reviniente on 21 April 2018
Nem said:
Ridiculous logic. Who buys a system to play last gen games on 4 years in?

I agree with the classic ones, but coming with a by the numbers comparison that includes last gen games backwards compatibility to say you have more to play than the competition, is farfetched at best. Yes, if you want to play the same games again, and ignore all the amazing exclusives the competition has, you "got more to play"! Enjoy!

Pathetic...

 

Who indeed?



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jason1637 on 21 April 2018
reviniente said:
jason1637 said:

There are rumors going around that a Halo spinoff is being worked on so were probably gonna get that before Halo 6.

Those 'leaked' rumors are from the same hungarian site that lists Borderlands 3 and Shadow of the Tomb Raider on Gamepass. They're as legit as a $3 bill.

No that hungarian site took rumors from resetera and added random shit. The original Halo spinoff game from a guy that has acess to the xbox API on Resetera and saw stuff for a spinoff Halo game and Jez said he heard info about the game but doesnt know who is making it.



reviniente on 21 April 2018
DonFerrari said:
trasharmdsister12 said:

I don't have any stake in any of this thread's conversations but I'd like to correct the assertion that X360 wasn't BC. It very much supported software emulation of the original Xbox. Not all games were supported but the list was substantial enough to be considered decently BC at a minimum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_games_compatible_with_Xbox_360

Will take your word on it =]

PS3 had BC (first HW and then emulated) and people happily traded it for lower cost.

There's a reason people 'happily traded it' for, but lower cost wasn't the reason. From the WSJ article:

"There’s a catch to the lower price: The new $399 PlayStation model will not play games designed for the PlayStation 2, Sony’s popular older game console. Mr. Tretton conceded that removing that capability, along with a few other features, isn’t dramatically reducing Sony’s cost of manufacturing the console but will instead encourage buyers of the entry-level PlayStation 3 to purchase more games designed specifically for the new system." 

And you though Sony was looking out for your bottom line.

 

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reviniente on 21 April 2018
DialgaMarine said:
The title of the article is an oxymoron.

Only if you have an agenda.



The_Liquid_Laser on 21 April 2018
DonFerrari said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

I agree with the consensus that PC games are cheaper overall.  I don't agree that all AAA games launch on PC at $40, which is what DonFerrari claimed.

Whatever point you are making, I probably agree with it.  Did you read what DonFerrari and I are talking about?  It might be good to get some context, before making a post like this.

Right now I am just trying to figure out what your point is?  You said that "PC games launch at $40 and console games launch at $60".  Is that your point?  If so why did you post the links to all of those old games?

I was countering your claim that games costed the same on pc and console. Which allpc gamers on vgc say pc games are cheaper and usually launching for 40. 

My claim was that they cost the same at launch.  Your claim is that PC games costs $40 and console $60 at launch.  I'm still waiting for a current example.



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reviniente on 22 April 2018
CGI-Quality said:
reviniente said:

Too late.

No need for this.

And you need to learn to use the multi quote feature.

And have my posts hog thread real state like the Don's? This site has changed a lot.



Keybladewielder on 22 April 2018

Maybe if you care only about Western third-party games and graphics.

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UltimateGamer1982 on 22 April 2018
jardesonbarbosa said:

I love the trend of people trying to justify their Xbox One X purchases. Yes, there are no exclusive games. Yes, God of War, Breath of the Wild, Mario Odyssey, Horizon Zero Dawn, Nier Automata, Persona 5, Shadow of the Colossus, Uncharted 4, Mario Kart 8 and most of the critically aclaimed games released in the last couple of years? You can't play that on Xbox One, but you can play Red Dead Redemption in 4K!!!!1

I don't want to be a hater, but this makes absolutely no sense. What's the point of having the best HARDWARE if you severely lacking in the software?

Hit the nail on the head. Sea of thieves looks good, but other than that, their exclusive output has been severely lacking. 



last92 on 22 April 2018
Pemalite said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

That is basic logic.  One counterexample is enough to disprove a given statement.

The overall trend and consensus is that PC games are in-fact cheaper.
Not just cheaper at launch... But receive significantly larger discounts more frequently.

Things are changing rapidly, though. I noticed a great effort by Sony and MS in the last few years when it comes to sales on their digital stores. Plus, PS plus and GwG are overall incredibly good value for money.

Also, there are many ways to pay less than the full price for a game at launch on consoles. Most retail stores will offer a discount if you preorder it, and you can also trade in old games (that's how it works in my country at least), so...I personally think pc and consoles are not so far as far as game pricing is concerned. They're just different. Of course, pc is still more convenient because it's all digital, whereas you need to do a little effort to grab the best deal on console by checking several retail stores.



DialgaMarine on 22 April 2018
reviniente said:
DialgaMarine said:
The title of the article is an oxymoron.

Only if you have an agenda.

 How so? It’s a known fact that a console’s quality is based primarily off of it’s exclusive software, so without exclusives, the console’s quality is greatly reduced. To say a console is the best if you ignore a lack of exclusives is no different than saying some restaurant’s hamburger is the best if you ignore it’s lack of a beef patty. It makes no sense to say that. A console without exclusives is nothing more than an underpowered PC with even less features. That’s not fanboy agenda, that’s just logic. 



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