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DonFerrari on 21 April 2018
The_Liquid_Laser said:
Pemalite said:

The overall trend and consensus is that PC games are in-fact cheaper.
Not just cheaper at launch... But receive significantly larger discounts more frequently.

I agree with the consensus that PC games are cheaper overall.  I don't agree that all AAA games launch on PC at $40, which is what DonFerrari claimed.

Conina said:

Whatever point you are making, I probably agree with it.  Did you read what DonFerrari and I are talking about?  It might be good to get some context, before making a post like this.

DonFerrari said:

So you ignored the first link that shows that in the last gen jump PC got 10 USD more expensive (showing that in gen 7 it was indeed average price on launch from 50 on PC vs 60 on console) and also that some games still launch cheaper on PC, and them further ignored that couple months later it get heavily discounted against games on console that take longer... is 3-6 months after a game launch makes it old?

Right now I am just trying to figure out what your point is?  You said that "PC games launch at $40 and console games launch at $60".  Is that your point?  If so why did you post the links to all of those old games?

I was countering your claim that games costed the same on pc and console. Which allpc gamers on vgc say pc games are cheaper and usually launching for 40. 



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LudicrousSpeed on 21 April 2018
DonFerrari said:

PC games launch for 40usd and console for 60usd, so even at launch their are cheaper.

You don’t game much on PC, do you? This is pretty objectively incorrect.

Yeah, thanks to having multiple storefronts competing for digital purchases, plus infinitely more indie games that are priced appropriately, software is cheaper on PC. But at launch, no, there is not a 33% advantage towards PC. On some occasions you might have a cheaper PC version because there is no physical version or retail chunk added on, but that’s rare. A vast majority of the time, a $60 game at launch is $60 regardless of platform.



Pemalite on 21 April 2018
LudicrousSpeed said:
DonFerrari said:

PC games launch for 40usd and console for 60usd, so even at launch their are cheaper.

You don’t game much on PC, do you? This is pretty objectively incorrect.

Yeah, thanks to having multiple storefronts competing for digital purchases, plus infinitely more indie games that are priced appropriately, software is cheaper on PC. But at launch, no, there is not a 33% advantage towards PC. On some occasions you might have a cheaper PC version because there is no physical version or retail chunk added on, but that’s rare. A vast majority of the time, a $60 game at launch is $60 regardless of platform.

There is always a sale on somewhere though on PC.
You aren't strictly limited to Steam.

For instance, I got Civilization back in the day for 50% cheaper than what Steam was offering on launch.
The way I look at it... If you ever buy a PC game at full price, then you are doing it wrong.

In Australia though, even without discounting, PC games are $10-$20 cheaper than the console release.



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Chazore on 21 April 2018
Pemalite said:

There is always a sale on somewhere though on PC.
You aren't strictly limited to Steam.

For instance, I got Civilization back in the day for 50% cheaper than what Steam was offering on launch.
The way I look at it... If you ever buy a PC game at full price, then you are doing it wrong.

In Australia though, even without discounting, PC games are $10-$20 cheaper than the console release.

I was also able to knock off up to £10 for AAA games i nabbed from GMG. Sometimes I'd get a possible $15 knocked off for launch as well.

 

I remember snagging XCOM 2 for £26, when it's original launch price as £35. They even messed up the launch day of giving out the keys, so to make up for it, they gave out codes for 6 games and an added 10% off coupon to use. Hardly any storefront has done something that much for me, simply for messing up a single line of code emailing. 



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reviniente on 21 April 2018
DonFerrari said:
Well if he want to have a gigantic library of old games he could buy a PS2 for himself... or a PC.

I think he might still have trouble playing Panzer Dragoon Orta, which coincidentally, is the game that promted him to write the article.



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reviniente on 21 April 2018
Xen said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

I would agree if the PS4 actually had a good library.  It kind of sucks.  I mean I read multiple threads on this site praising Shadow of Colossus, for example, when it was released on PS4.  If the PS4's library is so good, then why are so many people praising Shadow of Colossus?  Don't they have better games than this one that came out two generations ago?  Guess not.

There are a lot of great PS2 and PS3 games that I don't want to buy again.  If Sony expects me to buy them again on PS4, then I'll just sell the PS4 and play the older versions of the game.

The bolded makes your idea to exchange a PS4 for a  XBO hilarious, and the rest of the post is just cancerous.

The relevant part is, curiously, everything else he said.  I can see why you didn't even attempt to offer a retort; that would've required arguments you are unable to construct, instead of derision that is so easily hurled. What is hilarious, is the idea that everybody has to like Sony's 1st party, over pretty much everything else, as if PS4 fans needed to be reminded what the best selling game on the platform is.



reviniente on 21 April 2018
jardesonbarbosa said:

I love the trend of people trying to justify their Xbox One X purchases. Yes, there are no exclusive games. Yes, God of War, Breath of the Wild, Mario Odyssey, Horizon Zero Dawn, Nier Automata, Persona 5, Shadow of the Colossus, Uncharted 4, Mario Kart 8 and most of the critically aclaimed games released in the last couple of years? You can't play that on Xbox One, but you can play Red Dead Redemption in 4K!!!!1

I don't want to be a hater, but this makes absolutely no sense. What's the point of having the best HARDWARE if you severely lacking in the software?

Too late.



iron_megalith on 21 April 2018

True. I agree with this. XB1X is basically the superior hardware. Too bad the library is lackluster.



reviniente on 21 April 2018
Faelco said:
Remember when Mattrick got attacked for saying "We have the 360 for offline play"?

He was right all along, now people are defending the One because it can play some 360 games, which is what he offered at the time. That guy was way ahead of its time actually.

Remember when and why Don mattrick 'moved on'?



reviniente on 21 April 2018
jason1637 said:
Shadow1980 said:
I now default to the One X for third-party games. While I think MS has been slack on the exclusives front, the One X is a solid piece of hardware, plus I play a ton of Halo (hopefully we see something Halo 6 related at E3). I also always preferred Xbox gamepads. But Sony definitely does a much better job on the exclusives front. GoW will probably be my next purchase.

There are rumors going around that a Halo spinoff is being worked on so were probably gonna get that before Halo 6.

Those 'leaked' rumors are from the same hungarian site that lists Borderlands 3 and Shadow of the Tomb Raider on Gamepass. They're as legit as a $3 bill.