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Farsala said:
And thus the first Xbox console I don't own, in the same tier as the Wii. Trash tier.

The Wii had so many awesome games.



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VGPolyglot said:
Farsala said:
And thus the first Xbox console I don't own, in the same tier as the Wii. Trash tier.

The Wii had so many awesome games.

As does the XB1, but not enough.



John2290 said:
Xen said:

With consoles as they are these days, I will have to disagree right back.

Gotta disagree with you on that, PC is stunted now with devs adding DRM inti piracy software (giving the best of builds trouble), devs failing to optimize or giving priority to console and releasing broken games. Steam is just a mess of shovel ware and with GPU prices skyrocketing it's getting less accessible more quickly. The only thing that PC excels at these days are the PC staple genres. Even graphics are been done better on consoles than PC, just look at Horizon zero dawn.

Now that's just false, high-end PCs are more powerful than a PS4 Pro.



VGPolyglot said:
Xen said:

With consoles as they are these days, I will have to disagree right back.

Batman: Arkham Knight.

...has long been fixed.

John2290 said:
Xen said:

With consoles as they are these days, I will have to disagree right back.

Gotta disagree with you on that, PC is stunted now with devs adding DRM inti piracy software (giving the best of builds trouble), devs failing to optimize or giving priority to console and releasing broken games. Steam is just a mess of shovel ware and with GPU prices skyrocketing it's getting less accessible more quickly. The only thing that PC excels at these days are the PC staple genres. Even graphics are been done better on consoles than PC, just look at Horizon zero dawn.

No one is making one buy steam shovelware - but I will give you GPU prices. Can't combat people's desire to sit on their ass and earn money while doing no work at all.

Crappy DRM has been a thing with PC games since forever, it not the common situation though, luckily.



Tmfwang said:
«Xbox One is the best console if you don’t care about the very thing that defines consoles»

What defines consoles is playing on a television and with a controller.  



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yvanjean said:
Tmfwang said:
«Xbox One is the best console if you don’t care about the very thing that defines consoles»

What defines consoles is playing on a television and with a controller.  

Not exactly, you can do that with a PC too.



DonFerrari said:
flashfire926 said:

As if I ever claimed you can play tales of vesperia on the Xbox one. Nor did I ever claim that you can play your ENTIRE 360 library on One. 

Nor did I say that Xbox is the best console. Nor did I say BC is the sole factor that makes a console great.

Dont really get the point of this post.

And kinect games? Really? Kinect is suddenly the most important thing to you now, when motion control has been dead for years? gimme a break.

We could say the same of BC... Xbox didn't had a prior gen, X360 wasn't BC, X1 got BC middle gen and is limited.... but now it is all important?

But Kinect has some of the worst games of 360. They are suddenly important just now, after being shitted on for years. No one cares about Kinect. Xbox One launch is the evidence. People care about old games. Countless remasters coming out on newer consoles proves that.



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Xen said:
CrazyGamer2017 said:

I'm gonna have to disagree. PC has its pros yes but it's most definitely NOT superior EVERY SINGLE time.

With consoles as they are these days, I will have to disagree right back.

Ok so I'm gonna have to disagree and explain why.

You said "every single time" in other words everything is inferior in consoles in your opinion.

1: Consoles are DEDICATED machines made from the ground up for gaming whereas PC's are first and foremost data processing machines ADAPTED later on for games.

2: Consoles are natively made to play on a TV screen which is much bigger and more comfortable than a PC screen. And before you say you can play with a PC on a TV screen too, I'll say: sure you can but this move is one of PC following what consoles do natively, which is fine until someone says that PC's are superior. Gaming on TV is a console thing so the least a PC player should do when plugging their PC on a TV is admit that the console idea of playing on TV is a good one cause saying consoles are bad in what they do then doing the same by playing on a TV is contradictory.

3: Consoles use controllers made specifically for gaming whereas PC's use keyboards and mice made again for data processing and later on adapted for gaming.

4: A super high-end PC can be a beast of power, no argument there but such PC will cost you a lot of money, which is fine. I can totally understand that if you have a passion that you'll pay whatever to live out your passion. But the fact remains that such a powerful PC while having the advantage of power will have the inconvenience of the price. So in this example a PC's superiority in power will be an inferiority in price compared to a console.

5: A console will last an entire generation playing its games just as well on day one as it will do 7 or 8 years later. A PC will need at least twice a change in its GPU, RAM etc in a period of 8 years if you wish to have your games run super smooth 8 years later as it does on day one.

6: A console is much easier to use, you just plug it and you play your games whereas a PC will need a good knowledge of the system, maintenance, optimization, upgrading components, tweaks and so on... And you could argue that it can be fun if this stuff is your passion and I'd agree but the fact would still remain that a console is in general much easier to use.

7: A console (so far) does not catch viruses like a PC can.

And these are just off the top of my head... Now like I said, PC has its advantages and I am totally fine with anyone preferring PC for their games but saying that the PC is superior in EVERYTHING is just wrong. It's a way to play video games with pros and cons like any other systems.

Last edited by CrazyGamer2017 - on 19 April 2018

DonFerrari said:
flashfire926 said:

Please knock off the "keep old systems to play old games" crap. Some of like like having one box for anything rather than owning and changing from three different boxes all the time. 

 

What a disaster of a post.

Don't know how could you live before Xbox made the BC... and not all games work... are you a PC gamer?

I didn't get an Xbox One until 2016. Before the BC I would've never got the console.



Bet with Intrinsic:

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flashfire926 said:
DonFerrari said:

Don't know how could you live before Xbox made the BC... and not all games work... are you a PC gamer?

I didn't get an Xbox One until 2016. Before the BC I would've never got the console.

I also didn't get one until mid-2017, after they introduced backwards compatibility.