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How do you feel

XBOX One will get a great... 8 10.26%
 
I don't care win or loose... 9 11.54%
 
Ouya master race 6 7.69%
 
I quit supporting Xbox 35 44.87%
 
I don't care i own every ... 7 8.97%
 
see result 13 16.67%
 
Total:78
Oneeee-Chan!!! on 17 April 2018
LivingMetal said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

And yet I’m a hardcore gamer and immensely enjoy my Scorpio and launch Xbone. I just don’t play many MS games on them. Just like my PS4 is also a third party software machine :)

There is something for everyone when you look at the offerings of all consoles combined.  And my statement was a general one.  But it's very obvious that both Nintendo and Sony are catering to the gamer more than Microsoft is by focusing more on games than business agenda.

It seems  I need to know what is the "hardcore gamer" too .



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VGPolyglot on 17 April 2018
Oneeee-Chan!!! said:
LivingMetal said:

There is something for everyone when you look at the offerings of all consoles combined.  And my statement was a general one.  But it's very obvious that both Nintendo and Sony are catering to the gamer more than Microsoft is by focusing more on games than business agenda.

It seems  I need to know what is the "hardcore gamer" too .

Hardcore gamer and casual gamer are essentially meaningless terms, as a way to create distinctions between gamers when there is not really a need to.



LivingMetal on 17 April 2018
Oneeee-Chan!!! said:
LivingMetal said:

There is something for everyone when you look at the offerings of all consoles combined.  And my statement was a general one.  But it's very obvious that both Nintendo and Sony are catering to the gamer more than Microsoft is by focusing more on games than business agenda.

It seems  I need to know what is the "hardcore gamer" too .

Don't know about why you need to know that, but I did update my last post for clarification.  Oh, you were referring to Ludicrous.  He's just self-labeling.



DonFerrari on 17 April 2018
Oneeee-Chan!!! said:
DonFerrari said:

niche = I don't like

not niche = it sells good on my platform of choice

I want to hear the answer from xbox people .

So what's the difference  between niche games and not niche games ?

It depends on sales ? or nationality ?

Not sure you'll get a sincere answer... I guess FM is super niche and USA since FM7 didn't even got 300k WW (and not a single region with 100k)



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

oniyide on 18 April 2018
VGPolyglot said:
Oneeee-Chan!!! said:

It seems  I need to know what is the "hardcore gamer" too .

Hardcore gamer and casual gamer are essentially meaningless terms, as a way to create distinctions between gamers when there is not really a need to.

So their isn't a distinction between a person who buys 1 game per month vs. a person who buys 2 a year? A person who plays games daily vs. someone who plays once a week?



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VGPolyglot on 18 April 2018
oniyide said:
VGPolyglot said:

Hardcore gamer and casual gamer are essentially meaningless terms, as a way to create distinctions between gamers when there is not really a need to.

So their isn't a distinction between a person who buys 1 game per month vs. a person who buys 2 a year? A person who plays games daily vs. someone who plays once a week?

There shouldn't be, that seems to just be a way to get the people that consider themselves hardcore gamers to consume, consume, consume!



oniyide on 18 April 2018
VGPolyglot said:
oniyide said:

So their isn't a distinction between a person who buys 1 game per month vs. a person who buys 2 a year? A person who plays games daily vs. someone who plays once a week?

There shouldn't be, that seems to just be a way to get the people that consider themselves hardcore gamers to consume, consume, consume!

That's not really answering my question. Why shouldnt their be? Their is a big difference between someone who is spending hundreds if not thousands of hours/money on games than someone who isn't. How can their not be a difference?



VGPolyglot on 18 April 2018
oniyide said:
VGPolyglot said:

There shouldn't be, that seems to just be a way to get the people that consider themselves hardcore gamers to consume, consume, consume!

That's not really answering my question. Why shouldnt their be? Their is a big difference between someone who is spending hundreds if not thousands of hours/money on games than someone who isn't. How can their not be a difference?

Why does there need to be a distinction though? We are all into gaming, it's an arbitrarily defined separation between the two. What is the exact point that makes you go from a casual to hardcore gamer?



DonFerrari on 18 April 2018
VGPolyglot said:
oniyide said:

That's not really answering my question. Why shouldnt their be? Their is a big difference between someone who is spending hundreds if not thousands of hours/money on games than someone who isn't. How can their not be a difference?

Why does there need to be a distinction though? We are all into gaming, it's an arbitrarily defined separation between the two. What is the exact point that makes you go from a casual to hardcore gamer?

Classifying helps you understand a market better. So you can better tailor your product.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

VGPolyglot on 18 April 2018
DonFerrari said:
VGPolyglot said:

Why does there need to be a distinction though? We are all into gaming, it's an arbitrarily defined separation between the two. What is the exact point that makes you go from a casual to hardcore gamer?

Classifying helps you understand a market better. So you can better tailor your product.

Aren't these definitions given by the consumers themselves though?