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Slimebeast said:
ArnoldRimmer said:

Yeah, everyone knows the scientists of the "Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists" and the other 17 nobel-prize winners that decide on the "doomsday clock" are just idiotic morons telling bullshit.

Just ask PwerlvlAmy and the other wishful-thinking-guys who claim it's all just paranoia, they clearly know best.

It's just propaganda no matter the scientists involved.

By scaring the general public with the threat of a nuclear war, they hope for increased public pressure on politicians to bring about disarmaments, to favor peace talks in regards to the active military conflicts around the world, to tie countries together through international federations such as the EU, and to favor globalism.

Nobody who is serious actually beliefs there is a significant risk of WW3 in our time.

Discounting the prospect of a massive war in the future is not wise. On the other hand, warmongering or believing WW3 is a significant prospect is, as you said, not serious. There is far more interest in limited intrastate conflict these days -- because it can be profitable -- than grand conflicts. It is not a coincidence that we have not witnessed another world war since 1945. It is not merely that states do not wish to repeat such a thing (although it is true that the LIO has progressed immensely since, and the incentives for a grand war are no longer there from a trading, economic and technologic perspective), but also that there is now the spectre of nuclear weapons over everyone's heads. Nuclear weapons have saved humanity from the worry of another WW3. I am not saying it might never happen, but that it is very unlikely to happen any time soon. Not only is a nuclear war unlikely, so is WW3 in general. 

The OP needs to read on theories of escalation and de-escalation, limited warfare, revolution in military affairs, proxy wars, and of course the history of the Cold War and the post-Cold War period. 

roadkillers said:
This is what happens when 10 year olds play too much call of duty and lie about their age on vgchartz. Terrible topic.

That is my predisposition as well. Maybe he is not 10, but he does not sound like an adult at all. If he is an adult, he should take this as an opportunity to educate himself a bit before attempting a serious conversation on topics he does not understand adequately.

HollyGamer said:
roadkillers said:
This is what happens when 10 year olds play too much call of duty and lie about their age on vgchartz. Terrible topic.

Too bad i am not 10 years old and don't like to play Call of Duty  

Maybe you are not, maybe you are. The fact is that you do not comprehend essential strategic aspects of the topic, from deterrence and rational actor theory, to what a proxy war is. Being fascinated about war is fine (if a little bit stupid), but in order to participate in a serious conversation about it you need to expose yourself to more than just media and forum discussions. People on fora rarely know what they are talking about. You are not an exception by all means.



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Helloplite said:
HollyGamer said:

Too bad i am not 10 years old and don't like to play Call of Duty  

Maybe you are not, maybe you are. The fact is that you do not comprehend essential strategic aspects of the topic, from deterrence and rational actor theory, to what a proxy war is. Being fascinated about war is fine (if a little bit stupid), but in order to participate in a serious conversation about it you need to expose yourself to more than just media and forum discussions. People on fora rarely know what they are talking about. You are not an exception by all means.

Well too bad only few people discussing this seriously, except  you,  most of post are like " I don't want war!"  " bla bla bla" . So i am not going to discuss with that kind of people. My intention clearly want to discuss how US or Russia will engage in Arena war etc etc. How powerful both of them, what if US bring allies to the conflict will they win?

Because you seem the expert here i want to know from you.



HollyGamer said:
Faelco said:

I worked for a year and a half in an oncology hospital, walked by the morgue every morning going to work, spent all days hearing about people dying with details,  seeing patients and their family just in front of my office, watching patients talking about their incoming death with their doctors, and seeing those doctors battle with depression all the time, even after 20 years of experience. 

 

Trust me, you're not ready. That's just something people like to think, like "If a zombie outbreak happens, I'll be ready because I'm a fan of The Walking Dead". Wrong. 

Ready or Not , dead cannot wait (edited ) . We cannot run away. That's why i am preparing my self spiritually. At least i have a faith and I know dead is not the end. 

Sounds like someone who could crash an airplane at the World Trade Center with a smile anytime... 



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PlayMatt said:
HollyGamer said:

Ready or Not , dead cannot wait (edited ) . We cannot run away. That's why i am preparing my self spiritually. At least i have a faith and I know dead is not the end. 

Sounds like someone who could crash an airplane at the World Trade Center with a smile anytime... 

Sound like you like to play Video games , having guns , like to trash someone, but afraid in real war. pathetic  



HollyGamer said:
PlayMatt said:

Sounds like someone who could crash an airplane at the World Trade Center with a smile anytime... 

Sound like you like to play Video games , having guns , like to trash someone, but afraid in real war. pathetic  

no guns / lifes wasted here



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HollyGamer said:

Bye bye Consoles war welcome to world war 3, Seriously If Trump start to attack Syria this time probably Russia will also move, and Nuclear war is eminent. 

But why they are not   battle in  normal war, using Air force , Tank , Navy and Army,  instead of Nukes. I want to see modern war that not include Nukes.  Using Nukes is just too simple and no challenge at all. 

 

USA VS Russia : Arena War 

https://youtu.be/r8KglkOgH-g

Russia VS USA : Global Nuclear Showdown 

https://youtu.be/GeLrKDAn1x8

 

Russia VS The United States - Who Would Win - Military Comparison 

https://youtu.be/i6gBnizjTM4

Hopefully you are joking because war is never good. Also there was no world war 3 during the cold war so I think we'r just going to go through a cold war 2.



Faelco said:
ArnoldRimmer said:

The scientists who set the doomsday clock seem to think different; the doomsday clock has never been closer to "midnight"/"doomsday" than it is now (=2 minutes to midnight).

Even during the cuba crisis, it was at only 7 minutes to midnight - and just two months after the cuba crisis, it was even further set back to 12 minutes to midnight.

Even in 1984, when WW3 seemed closer than ever, and nuclear armed soviet bombers were on high alert, constantly running and ready for immediate take-off, the clock was further from midnight/doomsday (3 minutes to midnight).

And there are also quite a few other experts right now saying that the current situation is more dangerous than it has ever been.

And the fact that Obama secretly built a "5-story-deep doomsday bunker" under the White House west wing also speaks for itself I guess.

Seriously, guys, we're living in extremely dangerous times. I envy everyone who, unlike me, does not have to live near a US military base...

The doomsday clock isn't only about WW3 though, so saying that WW3 is closer because we're closer to midnight is wrong. 

Yes for example global warming and terrorist groups are really scary right now.



Matsku said:
HollyGamer said:

Bye bye Consoles war welcome to world war 3, Seriously If Trump start to attack Syria this time probably Russia will also move, and Nuclear war is eminent. 

But why they are not   battle in  normal war, using Air force , Tank , Navy and Army,  instead of Nukes. I want to see modern war that not include Nukes.  Using Nukes is just too simple and no challenge at all. 

 

USA VS Russia : Arena War 

https://youtu.be/r8KglkOgH-g

Russia VS USA : Global Nuclear Showdown 

https://youtu.be/GeLrKDAn1x8

 

Russia VS The United States - Who Would Win - Military Comparison 

https://youtu.be/i6gBnizjTM4

Hopefully you are joking because war is never good. Also there was no world war 3 during the cold war so I think we'r just going to go through a cold war 2.

Did i mentioned in OP that  want war??? I am just predicting the outcome of Trump attack in Syria. And World war 3  is not equal Nuclear War. 



so still alive,no ww3, we good.

we'll get to play god of war still



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HollyGamer said:

Bye bye Consoles war welcome to world war 3, Seriously If Trump start to attack Syria this time probably Russia will also move, and Nuclear war is eminent. 

But why they are not   battle in  normal war, using Air force , Tank , Navy and Army,  instead of Nukes. I want to see modern war that not include Nukes.  Using Nukes is just too simple and no challenge at all. 

 

First I think you mean imminent and not eminent

And to answer your question, war is not a sport or a competition where you need to score to win or to challenge yourself, war is about winning by force and if you are invaded or attacked you will use any means at your disposal to defend yourself and counter attack. That is why nukes will most certainly play their part should WW3 break out.