Actually Hawking's was a atheist and Einstein wasn't very religious and in favor of socialism.

Center left, sure, but going further to the left doesn't mute his point, it only amplifies it. Progressives are more extreme than Hillary.

There's a clear delineation between the two.  Whether it was a more vague "prime mover" sort of deal, John is correct on that note.  And what does socialism have to do with it?  There are deeply religious people who also favor such a system.

Progressives are also centre-left though.

"Sure, just like rightism encourages white men to play the victim."

that's not true though, can you give an example?

""The atheist left is trying to take away your Christianity.""

i could only see this being valid if christianity was exclusively for white men... but its not... so what's your point?

"The left wants Islam to be taught in schools, and supports terrorism!""

these women are feminists:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbJONNIU0Cc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ev66F8U4L8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jWSDyJiIXg

i mean i could go on here but feminist advocacy for islam is pretty apparent to anyone who has been paying attention

i suppose the second component is whether its a violent religion or not

...well that seems pretty clear to me...

"White people don't need to be feared and hated.  There are some on the left that sometimes go to those extremes, but they are a vocal minority."

i've been imagining the mainstream media calling for blacks to be wary of white policeman for all those weeks then

"This one is just wrong.  Transgenderism has nothing to do with not liking biology"

"There are people that are biologically XY that don't have a penis, and people that are biologically XX that do. "

there are people who have eight legs but we define a human as having 2 legs right?

a classification does not mean there will be no outliers

is your argument therefore that we should simply throw away all classifications since outliers happen across just about everything?

or is the more sensible path to acknowledge that in order to have classification a generalisation must be made?

"Biology is vastly more complicated than XY=penis, and XX=vagina. "

well i think when you consider that 99.92% of the time this is the case then we can safely make that assumption 

just like we can safely assume that human means 2 legs

That's not the sum of his argument on that, though. That's a complicated topic that can't be boiled down to one sentence. He's talked about it at length in many instances. He's worth watching in general even if you were turned off by a few vids.

You literally gave them to me.  

None of these are actually happening. They are just scary things to make white men think that the left hates them.  

1.) "women you have been oppressed by men for centuries so you need to tear down the patriarchy"

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/07/technology-sexist-society-even-worse-women-potential

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/out-the-darkness/201208/why-men-oppress-women

http://nomas.org/understanding-patriarchy-and-mens-power/

2.)""blacks you have been oppressed by centuries by white people so you need to fear and hate them""

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/11/chokehold-police-black-men-paul-butler-race-america

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/2017-is-the-year-of-black-fear_us_594c2393e4b0f078efd97fed

http://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2017/10/16/do-efforts-to-help-minorities-actually-produce-any-positive-results

3.)"What exactly is your point?  "

my point was that leftist advocacy for islam is common and that islam does appear to be interpreted in a way that motivates violence more than other religions

"They are individuals.

There are 1.5 billion individuals that are Muslim.  They are going to have 1.5 billion different opinions about every single thing.  "

but what unites them is their religion which is far less splintered than something like christianity

4.)"Not white policemen.  Many of the people who shot a black man were also black men."

i'm aware of that but the media has been pushing the idea that its been largely white men oppressing black men unfairly

which to some degree i think may be valid, but its been overblown and facts like the one you posted here are being glossed over

5.)"That dude isn't a biologist.  Just because he says something crazy doesn't mean that's a normally held belief.  "

supposedly he's a historian of biology which is doubtful but regardless my point was that he's an educator for transgender issues and his ideas are not uncommon for people in his field

"Just because there's a "normal", doesn't mean there's no room for people who don't fit that category.  Just because Jim only has 1 leg doesn't mean he's not human.  "

completely true but we don't use outliers to define the whole though and that's my point

"What do you think the patriarchy is that is being mentioned in the first articles?  What do you think they want to change?"

as far as i know patriarchy refers to the oppression men exert onto women

"Those articles aren't about being afraid of white people, or to victimize black people."

...but, that's exactly what they are about

" Historically, not really.  Christianity has been used to justify wars in the past. "

i'm talking about the present where the fear of islam is so pervasive that people can capitalise on it like this

"He's 1 dude."

as i said his ideas are not uncommon in academic circles presently

"And oppression is a bad thing to get rid of?"

so you've conceded that i was right then? and yes attempting to get rid of something imaginary is problematic as the grid girls who lost their jobs because they were supposedly being oppressed understand all too well

" I don't think so, those things are facts.  "

if plainly stating the statistics/facts in a proper context was all that was happening then i wouldn't have a problem

for example, you yourself stated that many of the black men shot recently were in confrontations with black police

because of the way these incidents have been framed, most people are unaware of that fact

"Just because people are afraid of something, doesn't mean there is actually something to be afraid of. "

oh... so islamic terrorism isn't happening now

Forgot to respond to this earlier.  While I wouldn't personify myself as being "mad" at this situation/Hogg, I'd still be bothered with it at the same level I am now.  Then again, maybe I'd find a bit of humor in seeing how petulant Hogg would (possibly) act if advertisers ignored the mob.