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NPD, PS4 2015 vs NSW 2018 (December added)

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Who wins?

PS4 66 40.24%
 
NSW 84 51.22%
 
Tie 14 8.54%
 
Total:164
PotentHerbs said:
StarDoor said:

No, you are wrong. PS4 had a permanent price cut to $350 in October 2015, and then it had temporary deals at $300 in November and December. These bundles also included a pack-in game, so the cheapest PS4 bundle in 2015 was identical to the cheapest Switch bundle in 2018.

https://www.theverge.com/2015/11/24/9769148/black-friday-gaming-deals-2015-xbox-ps4-nintendo-pc
https://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/12/01/two-ps4-bundles-just-299-99-each-starting-december-6th/

You're right. I don't remember seeing these kind of deals. It's still $399 here in Canada.

Regardless, PS4 was more expensive throughout its lifetime, and for the majority of 2015.

The PS4 was released at a time where the CAN$ was at parity with the US$ and it’s original was 399,99$ like you said. It saw an increase at 450$ latter on once the CAN$ value started to drop and returned at 399$ with it’s first permanent cut in 2015. The Switch was at 399$ for the majority of it’s life and dropped recently to 379$ to adjust to $ value.

But overall, both consoles are sold in the same price range in Canada and it doesn’t seem to affect the sales of each ones.



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PotentHerbs said:

Regardless, PS4 was more expensive throughout its lifetime, and for the majority of 2015.

But who cares? You can't just compare prices of completely different devices like that.

PS4 is significantly more powerful, has significantly more storage and includes a Blu-ray player, why wouldnt it be more expensive?



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zorg1000 said:
PotentHerbs said:

Regardless, PS4 was more expensive throughout its lifetime, and for the majority of 2015.

But who cares? You can't just compare prices of completely different devices like that.

PS4 is significantly more powerful, has significantly more storage and includes a Blu-ray player, why wouldnt it be more expensive?

I'm just saying. 

Portability is huge for the Switch, arguably the most significant factor in PS4 comparisons, as it draws from the handheld market as well as the console market.

PS4 has direct competition, too.



PotentHerbs said:
zorg1000 said:

But who cares? You can't just compare prices of completely different devices like that.

PS4 is significantly more powerful, has significantly more storage and includes a Blu-ray player, why wouldnt it be more expensive?

I'm just saying. 

Portability is huge for the Switch, arguably the most significant factor in PS4 comparisons, as it draws from the handheld market as well as the console market.

PS4 has direct competition, too.

You're literally just pulling excuses out of a hat to make Switch sales seem less impressive.



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zorg1000 said:
PotentHerbs said:

I'm just saying. 

Portability is huge for the Switch, arguably the most significant factor in PS4 comparisons, as it draws from the handheld market as well as the console market.

PS4 has direct competition, too.

You're literally just pulling excuses out of a hat to make Switch sales seem less impressive.

Lol, you think I'm downplaying Switch? Just in this thread, I predicted it to beat PS4's peak year, as well as PS4's best yearly NPD. 

It doesn't matter to me why the Switch sells great. I came in this thread to celebrate a PS4 victory.



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PotentHerbs said:
Miyamotoo said:

Thats still very close, its around 5% difference.

Like you wrote, they are different and you have pluses and minuses on both side when you compare them.

Of Course I do, in same time period PS4 had price cut, Switch still didn't had not one price cut, we talking about facts here. Talking about this year, Switch price cut would also make Switch selling more.

Agree, I don't see anything below 20m+ in 2019. for Switch, but its still early to say if that will be peak Switch year, but it will deffinatly be stronger than 2018. in any case.

The PS4 was still more expensive than the Switch even with their temporary price cut in 2015. Both consoles have yet to receive a "mass appeal" price - cut, but the fact is, Switch will be more affordable in general than the PS4 is when comparing their lifetimes.

A $199 PS4 would be a whole different animal. Especially in Europe and ROW where Sony has a stranglehold. It would be comfortably up YOY in NA + Japan. Even this late in the generation, I can see 18 - 20 Million FY, if Sony do a $100 price cut in March. Very unlikely though.

Nintendo has no incentive to cut price this year either. 

But PS4 is much more powerful than Switch will ever be, at that time was easily most powerful console on market, had 500GB storage and BD support. And like people already stated to you, PS4 had permanent price cut in 2015. to $350 and was selling for $300 in November and December. Switch will more afordible, but Switch will be also always much weaker, it will have less storage, it want have Blu-Ray support...they have different price point but they also have different values, both consoles are and were priced like they should, sales proves that.

Same could be said for Switch, Switch at $199 would be a whole different animal, so I don't point of that comparison.

Switch entering its 3rd year on market this year, only few consoles in history buy that time (after 2 hole years) didnt had price cut, Switch will most likely have price cut to $250 this year.



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2016 vs 2019? :>

I thought this thread were fun to follo



Mbolibombo said:
@zorg1000
2016 vs 2019? :>

I thought this thread were fun to follo

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Months PS4 (2016) NSW (2019)
January 229.000 284.000
February 405.000 367.000
March 330.000 383.000
April 175.000 227.000
total 1.139.000 1.261.000