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Who wins?

PS4 66 40.24%
 
NSW 84 51.22%
 
Tie 14 8.54%
 
Total:164
peachbuggy on 26 January 2019

Price really can't be considered an issue either. If PS4 had released cheaper, Sony would have either bled money or the PS4 would be a completely different and less powerful machine.



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PotentHerbs on 26 January 2019
Miyamotoo said:
PotentHerbs said:

That doesn't include PS4's second holiday season. 

The majority of games you listed are multi - plat and only had a limited time bundle (Batman + MGS). Some of these games also had a XOne limited time bundle. Again, nothing compared to Smash + Pokemon, Switch being cheaper, and being a hybrid. Many factors have to be considered when comparing two different devices. 

But you wrote "Switch It just isn't outselling the PS4 launch aligned", and that's not true, because it does outselling PS4. But even if we compare just first two hole years on market, for Switch 2017. and 2018. while for PS4 2014. and 2015., Switch is again above.

NSW: 10.5M
PS4: 10.43M

 

You do realise that multiplatform games are system sellers for PS4, right? 9 from top 10 selling PS4 games are all multi platform games, in comparison to Switch top 10 best selling games are all exclusive Nintendo games. Hole PS4 2015. lineup was far stronger for PS4 than it was 2018. for Switch, I mean Switch had 2 strong games while PS4 had 10 of them. Limited bundle don't change nothing, we talking about lineup of games, not about bundles. We were taking about lineup of games, not about what is hybrid and what is cheaper, but yeah you are right that there different factors to considered when comparing them, for instance Switch is cheaper but PS4 is much stronger, has much bigger HDD, has BD support, much stronger 3rd party support, had price cut in 2015. and better BF deals...so don't act like everything goes in favour of Switch because thats far from true.

I should have been more clear, I'm referring to worldwide sales launch aligned. 

PS4's lineup in 2018 dwarfs PS4's lineup in 2015 critically and commercially. Its not close in any measure. Far stronger? C'mon now lol.

Obviously, PS4 having a stronger library of games is a factor, but exclusive software moves more hardware compared to limited third party bundles. Switch being a hybrid, is the most favorable factor within PS4 comparisons, as it draws from both handheld and console consumers, IMO.

Anyways, PS4 won this particular comparison, which is the main point of my post, despite the massive consensus in this thread that expected Switch to win.



zorg1000 on 26 January 2019
PotentHerbs said:

I should have been more clear, I'm referring to worldwide sales launch aligned. 

PS4's lineup in 2018 dwarfs PS4's lineup in 2015 critically and commercially. Its not close in any measure. Far stronger? C'mon now lol.

Obviously, PS4 having a stronger library of games is a factor, but exclusive software moves more hardware compared to limited third party bundles. Switch being a hybrid, is the most favorable factor within PS4 comparisons, as it draws from both handheld and console consumers, IMO.

Anyways, PS4 won this particular comparison, which is the main point of my post, despite the massive consensus in this thread that expected Switch to win.

Worldwide sales launches aligned has Switch ahead.

PS4 as of Sept 19, 2015 (22 months)-26.9m

NSW as of Jan 5, 2019 (22 months)-30.5m

 

And no there was no massive consensus, look at the poll.

PS4-40%

NSW-50%

Tie-10%



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PotentHerbs on 26 January 2019
zorg1000 said:
PotentHerbs said:

I should have been more clear, I'm referring to worldwide sales launch aligned. 

PS4's lineup in 2018 dwarfs PS4's lineup in 2015 critically and commercially. Its not close in any measure. Far stronger? C'mon now lol.

Obviously, PS4 having a stronger library of games is a factor, but exclusive software moves more hardware compared to limited third party bundles. Switch being a hybrid, is the most favorable factor within PS4 comparisons, as it draws from both handheld and console consumers, IMO.

Anyways, PS4 won this particular comparison, which is the main point of my post, despite the massive consensus in this thread that expected Switch to win.

Worldwide sales launches aligned has Switch ahead.

PS4 as of Sept 19, 2015 (22 months)-26.9m

NSW as of Jan 5, 2019 (22 months)-30.5m

 

And no there was no massive consensus, look at the poll.

PS4-40%

NSW-50%

Tie-10%

Do you have the figures for PS4 2014 + 2015 vs Switch 2017 + 2018 worldwide sales?

I was speaking about the general consensus for the last 10 or so pages on here. 

Last edited by PotentHerbs - on 26 January 2019

Wales on 26 January 2019

2015 was the third year PS4 was on sales since it was released in 2013 - so guess you need to amend your figures.



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zorg1000 on 26 January 2019
Wales said:

2015 was the third year PS4 was on sales since it was released in 2013 - so guess you need to amend your figures.

Nope, it was only available for 1.5 months in 2013. This is comparing 2nd full year.



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zorg1000 on 26 January 2019
PotentHerbs said:
zorg1000 said:

Worldwide sales launches aligned has Switch ahead.

PS4 as of Sept 19, 2015 (22 months)-26.9m

NSW as of Jan 5, 2019 (22 months)-30.5m

 

And no there was no massive consensus, look at the poll.

PS4-40%

NSW-50%

Tie-10%

Do you have the figures for PS4 2014 + 2015 vs Switch 2017 + 2018 worldwide sales?

I was speaking about the general consensus for the last 10 or so pages on here. 

PS4 2014+2015-31.7m

NSW 2017+2018-30.1m

It really doesnt matter what metric you go by, PS4 & NSW are selling very similar to each other.



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Wales on 26 January 2019

So how can you compare 2nd year figures - when the Switch hasn’t reached it’s second birthday!! The table is comparing Swich - months 11 to 22 - compared to PS4 - month 15 to 26.  If - as you state you are comparing 2nd full year - that’s still 2019 (this year) for the Switch ! Would be helpful if you compared like for like and repost so at least we - the reader are looking at a true comparison and not wasting our time !!



zorg1000 on 26 January 2019
Wales said:

So how can you compare 2nd year figures - when the Switch hasn’t reached it’s second birthday!! The table is comparing Swich - months 11 to 22 - compared to PS4 - month 15 to 26.  If - as you state you are comparing 2nd full year - that’s still 2019 (this year) for the Switch ! Would be helpful if you compared like for like and repost so at least we - the reader are looking at a true comparison and not wasting our time !!

Switch was available for 10 months of 2017, the 2 missing months are countered by March being a launch month. For all intents and purposes, it's close enough to count as a full year unlike 2013 for PS4.

How about you stop wasting our time and just do whatever comparison yourself instead of complaining? All the data you need is readily available.



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Miyamotoo on 27 January 2019
PotentHerbs said:
Miyamotoo said:

But you wrote "Switch It just isn't outselling the PS4 launch aligned", and that's not true, because it does outselling PS4. But even if we compare just first two hole years on market, for Switch 2017. and 2018. while for PS4 2014. and 2015., Switch is again above.

NSW: 10.5M
PS4: 10.43M

 

You do realise that multiplatform games are system sellers for PS4, right? 9 from top 10 selling PS4 games are all multi platform games, in comparison to Switch top 10 best selling games are all exclusive Nintendo games. Hole PS4 2015. lineup was far stronger for PS4 than it was 2018. for Switch, I mean Switch had 2 strong games while PS4 had 10 of them. Limited bundle don't change nothing, we talking about lineup of games, not about bundles. We were taking about lineup of games, not about what is hybrid and what is cheaper, but yeah you are right that there different factors to considered when comparing them, for instance Switch is cheaper but PS4 is much stronger, has much bigger HDD, has BD support, much stronger 3rd party support, had price cut in 2015. and better BF deals...so don't act like everything goes in favour of Switch because thats far from true.

I should have been more clear, I'm referring to worldwide sales launch aligned. 

PS4's lineup in 2018 dwarfs PS4's lineup in 2015 critically and commercially. Its not close in any measure. Far stronger? C'mon now lol.

Obviously, PS4 having a stronger library of games is a factor, but exclusive software moves more hardware compared to limited third party bundles. Switch being a hybrid, is the most favorable factor within PS4 comparisons, as it draws from both handheld and console consumers, IMO.

Anyways, PS4 won this particular comparison, which is the main point of my post, despite the massive consensus in this thread that expected Switch to win.

First, even world wide sale it will be very close or Switch will ahead.

But fact is that PS4 2015. lineup is far stronger than Switch 2018. lineup.

You missing fact that 3rd party are biggest system mover for PS4 and XB1, sales of games also proves thats. Limited bundles does not have anything with that, we talking about games releases.

100k is not realyl big difference in any case, and dont forget, 2015. was strongest year for PS4 in US, while Switch was very close to PS4 sales without price cut and with not great lineup most of year, 2019. for Switch should be quite stronger.