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globalisateur said:
That second prediction chart can't be right for September, like at all.

The problem is the first one also makes no sense.  



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globalisateur said:
That second prediction chart can't be right for September, like at all.

The first one is the problem, not the second one.

The 500 Million PS4 are limited to 50000 units worldwide and sold out in an instant - yet they keep staying in the Gamestop list for over a week now for some reason. There's absolutely no chance at all Gamestop is still selling those unless people keep abandoning their buy and Gamestop gets to sell them again and again, which I doubt is happening.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
globalisateur said:
That second prediction chart can't be right for September, like at all.

The first one is the problem, not the second one.

The 500 Million PS4 are limited to 50000 units worldwide and sold out in an instant - yet they keep staying in the Gamestop list for over a week now for some reason. There's absolutely no chance at all Gamestop is still selling those unless people keep abandoning their buy and Gamestop gets to sell them again and again, which I doubt is happening.

The bigger problem is that it's holding all the top scoring areas and clogging them up. It makes the points system inaccurate for the rest even if we simply ignore them.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
globalisateur said:
That second prediction chart can't be right for September, like at all.

The first one is the problem, not the second one.

The 500 Million PS4 are limited to 50000 units worldwide and sold out in an instant - yet they keep staying in the Gamestop list for over a week now for some reason. There's absolutely no chance at all Gamestop is still selling those unless people keep abandoning their buy and Gamestop gets to sell them again and again, which I doubt is happening.

I may be wrong, but the situation with the 500 Million PS4 might indicate the Gamestop's charts are not based on best selling products, but the most looked at online which might explain why a sold out product is still charting high even if we know there's no additional shipment.

Again, I may be wrong, but this is the most plausible option I can think of.



abronn627 said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

The first one is the problem, not the second one.

The 500 Million PS4 are limited to 50000 units worldwide and sold out in an instant - yet they keep staying in the Gamestop list for over a week now for some reason. There's absolutely no chance at all Gamestop is still selling those unless people keep abandoning their buy and Gamestop gets to sell them again and again, which I doubt is happening.

I may be wrong, but the situation with the 500 Million PS4 might indicate the Gamestop's charts are not based on best selling products, but the most looked at online which might explain why a sold out product is still charting high even if we know there's no additional shipment.

Again, I may be wrong, but this is the most plausible option I can think of.

I was thinking about that possibility, too. I could very well be, but we have no proof.

Still, until now it has been working pretty well, so let's wait and see what NPD will tell us.



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Bofferbrauer2 said:
abronn627 said:

I may be wrong, but the situation with the 500 Million PS4 might indicate the Gamestop's charts are not based on best selling products, but the most looked at online which might explain why a sold out product is still charting high even if we know there's no additional shipment.

Again, I may be wrong, but this is the most plausible option I can think of.

I was thinking about that possibility, too. I could very well be, but we have no proof.

Still, until now it has been working pretty well, so let's wait and see what NPD will tell us.

Yeah we should wait for NPD results to confirm this. 

While it’s not proving anything, the limited edition might be the hint we need to better understand how ranking algorithms are working.

And my professional experience with Gamestop, I doubt they changed their way of tracking units sold on a daily basis.



Man I am just waiting for Aug results they will tell a lot and Sept will also be very weird as well....but we are going into the holiday season and things are about to get crazy all over for all 3!



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09/05/18 :

- Amazon :

1 (-) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 15 (+3) - 299.00$
2 (+1) - Nintendo Switch Grey - 29 (+7) - 299.00$
3 (+1) - XBox One S 1Tb Starter Bundle - 41 (-2) - 282.88$
4 (+1) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Black - 48 (+15) - 484.60$
5 (+1) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb Black - 75 (-3) - 299.99$
6 (-4) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Spiderman - 95 (-69) - Sold Out

Out of Top 100 :

-

PS4 : 56 + 26 + 6 = 88 points (-79) ; XBO : 70 points (-4) ; NS : 140 + 94 = 234 points (+29)


- Best Buy :

1 (-) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb Black - 5 (-3) - 299.99$
2 (-) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 6 (-3) - 299.99$
3 (-) - Nintendo Switch Grey - 10 (-) - 299.99$
4 (-) - XBox One S 1Tb Starter Bundle - 12 (-1) - 299.99$
5 (-) - XBox One X 1Tb Playerunknown's Battlegrounds - 30 (-1) - 499.99$
6 (-) - XBox One X 1 Tb - 67 (+27) - 499.99$
7 (R) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Black - 98 (R) - 399.99$

Out of Top 100 :

-

PS4 : 190 + 3 = 193 points (-13) ; XBO : 155 + 92 + 34 = 281 points (+20) ; NS : 185 + 165 = 350 points (-15)


- Gamestop :

1 (R) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Spiderman - 11 (R) - Sold Out
2 (-1) - PS4 Pro 2 TB 500 Million - 32 (+2) - Sold out
3 (-1) - PS4 Pro 2TB 500 Million - 33 (+2) - 734.99$ (Out of Stock)
4 (-1) - PS4 Pro 2TB 500 Million - 34 (+2) - 599.99$ (Out of Stock)
5 (-1) - PS4 Pro 2TB 500 Million - 36 (+1) - 499.99$ (Out of Stock)
6 (-1) - XBox One S NBA 2K19 - 43 (+2) - 299.99$
7 (-1) - Playstation 4 Slim 1 Tb - 80 (+6) - 299.99$
8 (-1) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 81 (+6) - 299.99$
9 (-1) - XBox One X 1Tb Robot White Fallout 76 - 115 (-25) - 499.99$
10 (-1) - XBox One X NBA 2K19 - 121 (-12) - 499.99$
11 (R) - XBox One X 1 Tb - 168 (R) - 499.99$
12 (-) - XBox One X 1Tb Robot White Fallout 76 - 184 (-15) - 499.99$

Out of Top 100 :

-

PS4 : 185 + 135 + 130 + 130 + 125 + 72 = 777 points (+211) ; XBO : 108 + 40 + 17 = 165 points (+13) ; NS : 70 points (+6)

Overall (Today, all numbers included) :

1 - PS4 : 886.0 points (+145.4) ; Month Average : 839.8 points/day ; 1.0
2 - XBO : 360.4 points (+19.8) ; Month Average : 335.1 points/day ; 0.40 (-)
3 - NS : 327.2 points (+26.2) ; Month Average : 309.0 points/day ; 0.37 (-)

Overall (minus PS4 million) :

1 - XBO : 360.4 points (+19.8) ; Month Average : 335.1 points/day ; 1.0
2 - NS : 327.2 points (+26.2) ; Month Average : 309.0 points/day ; 0.92 (-0.01)
3 - PS4 : 366.0 points (+125.4) ; Month Average : 303.6 points/day ; 0.91 (+0.04)



09/06/18 :

- Amazon :

1 (-) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 15 (-) - 299.00$
2 (-) - Nintendo Switch Grey - 37 (-8) - 299.00$
3 (-) - XBox One S 1Tb Starter Bundle - 41 (-) - 282.88$
4 (-) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Black - 69 (-21) - TP
5 (-) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb Black - 91 (-16) - 299.99$

Out of Top 100 :

6 (-4) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Spiderman - 95 (-69) - Sold Out

PS4 : 32 + 10 = 42 points (-46) ; XBO : 70 points (-) ; NS : 140 + 78 = 218 points (-16)


- Best Buy :

1 (-) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb Black - 5 (-) - 299.99$
2 (-) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 6 (-) - 299.99$
3 (-) - Nintendo Switch Grey - 16 (-6) - 299.99$
4 (-) - XBox One S 1Tb Starter Bundle - 17 (-5) - 299.99$
5 (-) - XBox One X 1Tb Playerunknown's Battlegrounds - 44 (-14) - 499.99$
6 (R) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Spiderman - 59 (R) - 399.99$
7 (-1) - XBox One X 1 Tb - 82 (-15) - 499.99$
8 (-1) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Black - 94 (+4) - 399.99$

Out of Top 100 :

-

PS4 : 190 + 42 + 7 = 239 points (+46) ; XBO : 130 + 64 + 19 = 213 points (-68) ; NS : 185 + 135 = 320 points (-30)


- Gamestop :

1 (-) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Spiderman - 10 (+1) - Sold Out
2 (-) - PS4 Pro 2 TB 500 Million - 32 (-) - Sold out
3 (-) - PS4 Pro 2TB 500 Million - 33 (-) - 734.99$ (Out of Stock)
4 (-) - PS4 Pro 2TB 500 Million - 34 (-) - 599.99$ (Out of Stock)
5 (-) - PS4 Pro 2TB 500 Million - 35 (+1) - 499.99$ (Out of Stock)
6 (-) - XBox One S NBA 2K19 - 43 (-) - 299.99$
7 (-) - Playstation 4 Slim 1 Tb - 74 (+6) - 299.99$
8 (-) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 77 (+4) - 299.99$
9 (-) - XBox One X 1Tb Robot White Fallout 76 - 103 (+12) - 499.99$
10 (-) - XBox One X NBA 2K19 - 110 (+11) - 499.99$
11 (R) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 169 (R) - 299.99$
12 (-1) - XBox One X 1 Tb - 184 (-16) - 499.99$

Out of Top 100 :

12 (-) - XBox One X 1Tb Robot White Fallout 76 - 184 (-15) - 499.99$

PS4 : 190 + 135 + 130 + 130 + 125 + 78 = 788 points (+11) ; XBO : 108 + 46 + 9 = 163 points (-2) ; NS : 74 + 16 = 90 points (+20)

Overall (Today, all numbers included) :

1 - PS4 : 869.4 points (-16.6) ; Month Average : 845.7 points/day ; 1.0
2 - XBO : 340.1 points (-20.2) ; Month Average : 336.1 points/day ; 0.40 (-)
3 - NS : 328.4 points (+1.2) ; Month Average : 312.9 points/day ; 0.37 (-)



Overall (minus PS4 million) :

1 - XBO : 340.1 points (-20.2) ; Month Average : 336.1 points/day ; 1.0
2 - NS : 328.4 points (+1.2) ; Month Average : 312.9 points/day ; 0.93 (+0.01)
3 - PS4 : 349.4 points (-16.6) ; Month Average : 312.7 points/day ; 0.93 (+0.02)



Neck-on-Neck without the 500 Million console