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May looks like it will be a pretty slow month.



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05/22/19 :

- Amazon :

1 (-) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 11 (+1) - 299.00$
2 (-) - Nintendo Switch Grey - 41 (+2) - 299.00$
3 (-) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb Black - 42 (+3) - 299.99$
4 (-) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Black - 85 (+1) - 399.99$

Out of Top 100 :

5 (-) - XBox One S 1Tb Battlefield V - 99 (-11)

PS4 : 68 + 16 = 84 points (+7) ; XBO : 0 points (-2) ; NS : 160 + 70 = 230 points (+9)


- Best Buy :

1 (-) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 3 (-2) - 299.99$
2 (-) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb Black - 4 (-) - 299.99$
3 (+1) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Black - 11 (-5) - 399.99$
4 (-1) - Nintendo Switch Grey - 12 (-7) - 299.99$
5 (-) - XBox One X 1Tb Fallout 76 - 51 (-18) - 399.99$
6 (R) - XBox One S 1Tb Fortnite - 69 (R) - 299.99$
7 (-) - XBox One S 1Tb AD - 86 (+2) - 249.99$
8 (R) - Nintendo Switch Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu - 89 (R) - 399.99$
9 (-3) - XBox One S 1Tb The Division 2 - 94 (-20) - 299.99$

Out of Top 100 :

-

PS4 : 195 + 160 = 355 points (-25) ; XBO : 50 + 32 + 15 + 7 = 104 points (-22) ; NS : 200 + 155 + 12 = 367 points (-33)


- Gamestop :

1 (R) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 42 (R)
2 (-1) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb Black - 44 (+84)
3 (-) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Black - 111 (+59)
4 (R) - Nintendo Switch Grey - 144 (R)
5 (-3) - Nintendo Switch Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu - 157 (-3)
6 (R) - XBox One X 1Tb Fallout 76 - 198 (R) - 399.99$

Out of Top 100 :

-

PS4 : 108 + 45 = 153 points (+100) ; XBO : 2 points (+2) ; NS : 110 + 29 + 22 = 161 points (+137)

Overall :

1 - NS : 418.4 points (+137.6) ; Month Average : 437.6 points/day ; 1.0
2 - PS4 : 291.2 points (+100.6) ; Month Average : 272.9 points/day ; 0.62 (+0.01)
3 - XBO : 29.6 points (-5.2) ; Month Average : 54.9 points/day ; 0.13 (-)



So, about April 2019 :

Final tool results :

1 - XBO : 511.9 points/day ; 1.0
2 - NS : 427.1 points/day ; 0.83
3 - PS4 : 261.2 points/day ; 0.51

NPD results (thanks Slarvax) :

1 - NS : 227k ; 1.0
2 - PS4 : 148k ; 0.65
3 - XBO : 106k ; 0.47

As expected, XBO was wrong while NS/PS4 ratio was accurate.

I used those data to try something with the formula. I reduced the amount of point a console got based on the amount of Promotional SKUs in the list. To match the NPD data we got, I had to divide gamestop XBO total points during the first 8 days by : 1+(0.3xnumber of promo SKUs). In this case, it was 1+(0.3*6)=2.8.

Doing this, this is what we get :

1 - NS : 427.1 points/day ; 1.0
2 - PS4 : 261.2 points/day ; 0.61
3 - XBO : 231.7 points/day ; 0.54


Interestingly, if we apply this to October 2018 (another dude for the tool), this is what we get :

PS4 : 565.3 points/day ; 1.0
XBO : 324.4 points/day ; 0.57

Before the change :

PS4 : 565.3 points/day ; 0.89
XBO : 637.0 points/day ; 1.0

NPD :

PS4 : 340k ; 1.0
XBO : 215k ; 0.62

This looks pretty good, I have to try and see if I should include new bundles in this calculation as well (to see if it has an impact on NS numbers). I will have to look into November and December 2018 as well...



Great work Symbios, looks like these changes are very good for the tool.



jason1637 said:
May looks like it will be a pretty slow month.

Definately, always the slowest month of the year. 

Last years numbers:

[PS4]  221k
[NSW]166k
[XB1] 144k



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Symbios63 said:
So, about April 2019 :


Great job Symbios!!

I actually follow your post and actualizations since a good amount of months. Today, observing the effect of the calibration in the formula has pumped me so much, that I have registered myself just to comment on it xD

Is there any place or link where all the numbers are collected (since March 2018)?



Urko said:
Symbios63 said:
So, about April 2019 :


Great job Symbios!!

I actually follow your post and actualizations since a good amount of months. Today, observing the effect of the calibration in the formula has pumped me so much, that I have registered myself just to comment on it xD

Is there any place or link where all the numbers are collected (since March 2018)?

I would have said the OP, but that one only goes until September 2018. Still, might be interesting: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8756071



Symbios63 said:
So, about April 2019 :

Final tool results :

1 - XBO : 511.9 points/day ; 1.0
2 - NS : 427.1 points/day ; 0.83
3 - PS4 : 261.2 points/day ; 0.51

NPD results (thanks Slarvax) :

1 - NS : 227k ; 1.0
2 - PS4 : 148k ; 0.65
3 - XBO : 106k ; 0.47

As expected, XBO was wrong while NS/PS4 ratio was accurate.

I used those data to try something with the formula. I reduced the amount of point a console got based on the amount of Promotional SKUs in the list. To match the NPD data we got, I had to divide gamestop XBO total points during the first 8 days by : 1+(0.3xnumber of promo SKUs). In this case, it was 1+(0.3*6)=2.8.

Doing this, this is what we get :

1 - NS : 427.1 points/day ; 1.0
2 - PS4 : 261.2 points/day ; 0.61
3 - XBO : 231.7 points/day ; 0.54


Interestingly, if we apply this to October 2018 (another dude for the tool), this is what we get :

PS4 : 565.3 points/day ; 1.0
XBO : 324.4 points/day ; 0.57

Before the change :

PS4 : 565.3 points/day ; 0.89
XBO : 637.0 points/day ; 1.0

NPD :

PS4 : 340k ; 1.0
XBO : 215k ; 0.62

This looks pretty good, I have to try and see if I should include new bundles in this calculation as well (to see if it has an impact on NS numbers). I will have to look into November and December 2018 as well...

I admire your hard work man. Keep it up.



05/24/19 :

- Amazon :

1 (-) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 9 (+2) - 299.00$
2 (-) - Nintendo Switch Grey - 34 (+7) - 299.00$
3 (-) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb Black - 39 (+3) - 299.99$
4 (-) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Black - 92 (-7) - 399.99$
5 (R) - XBox One S 1Tb - 99 (R) - 207.79$

Out of Top 100 :

-

PS4 : 74 + 9 = 83 points (-1) ; XBO : 2 points (+2) ; NS : 170 + 84 = 254 points (+24)


- Best Buy :

1 (-) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 3 (-) - 299.99$
2 (-) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb Black - 5 (-1) - 299.99$
3 (+1) - Nintendo Switch Grey - 13 (-1) - 299.99$
4 (-1) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Black - 14 (-3) - 399.99$
5 (-) - XBox One X 1Tb Fallout 76 - 41 (+10) - 399.99$
6 (-) - XBox One S 1Tb Fortnite - 68 (+1) - 299.99$
7 (-) - XBox One S 1Tb AD - 72 (+14) - 249.99$
8 (-) - Nintendo Switch Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu - 83 (+6) - 399.99$
9 (-) - XBox One S 1Tb The Division 2 - 95 (-1) - 299.99$

Out of Top 100 :

-

PS4 : 190 + 145 = 335 points (-20) ; XBO : 70 + 33 + 29 + 6 = 138 points (+34) ; NS : 200 + 150 + 18 = 368 points (+1)


- Gamestop :

1 (+1) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb Black - 32 (+12)
2 (-1) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 39 (+3)
3 (+1) - Nintendo Switch Grey - 124 (+20)
4 (-1) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Black - 125 (-14)
5 (-) - Nintendo Switch Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu - 165 (-8)

Out of Top 100 :

6 (R) - XBox One X 1Tb Fallout 76 - 198 (R) - 399.99$

PS4 : 135 + 38 = 173 points (+20) ; XBO : 0 points (-2) ; NS : 115 + 39 + 18 = 172 points (+11)

Overall :

1 - NS : 448.8 points (+30.4) ; Month Average : 437.5 points/day ; 1.0
2 - PS4 : 306.4 points (+15.2) ; Month Average : 276.2 points/day ; 0.63 (+0.01)
3 - XBO : 37.9 points (+8.3) ; Month Average : 53.2 points/day ; 0.12 (-0.01)


Thanks everyone. As soon as I find some times I will double check changes in the formula over several past month to validate them. Current month NS spike (50$ GC at gamestop) will have to be adjusted accordingly (not a huge change as only two SKUs for few days but still...).

Next idea is to consider new bundles (preorder and first week/month of release) as promotional SKUs as well. We will see.



Symbios63 said:
05/24/19 :




Thanks everyone. As soon as I find some times I will double check changes in the formula over several past month to validate them. Current month NS spike (50$ GC at gamestop) will have to be adjusted accordingly (not a huge change as only two SKUs for few days but still...).

Next idea is to consider new bundles (preorder and first week/month of release) as promotional SKUs as well. We will see.

Switch is on a rollercoaster right now. But like you said, that will get flattened a bit. Can't wait to see what the final will look like and how well it will match NPD.

About the new bundles: if they are special SKU, I would support it, especially when it's known from the get-go that the numbers will be limited.