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48 hours from last update :

- Amazon :

1 (-) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 13 (+2) - 299.00$
2 (-) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb Black - 25 (-1) - 299.00$
3 (-) - Nintendo Switch Grey - 30 (+1) - 299.00$
4 (-) - Xbox One S 500Gb White - 40 (-6) - 240.95$
5 (-) - Playstation 4 Pro 1 Tb - 44 (-) - 399.00$
6 (-) - XBox One X 1 Tb - 53 (-) - 484.99$
7 (R) - Playstation 4 Slim 500Gb Black - 69 (R) - 269.00$
8 (-1) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Star Wars - 81 (+8) - ??

Out of Top 100 :

-

PS4 : 76 + 57 + 32 + 20 = 185 points (+39) ; XBO : 61 + 48 = 109 points (-6) ; NS : 88 + 71 = 159 points (+3) ; 3DS : 0 points (-)


- Best Buy :

1 (-) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 10 (-2) - 299.00$
2 (+1) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb Black - 22 (-10) - 299.99$
3 (+3) - XBox One X 1 Tb - 31 (-4) - 499.99$
4 (-) - Playstation 4 Pro 1 Tb - 34 (-15) - 399.00$
5 (-) - Nintendo Switch Grey - 49 (-27) - 299.00$
6 (-4) - Playstation 4 Pro 1 Tb God of Wars - 51 (-40) - 399.99$ - Preorder
7 (+3) - XBox One S 1Tb Playerunknown's Battlegrounds - 57 (+3) - 299.99$
8 (-1) - XBox One S 1Tb Sea of Thieves - 60 (-9) - 299.99$
9 (-1) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Star Wars - 96 (-40) - 399.99$

Out of Top 100 :

10 (R) - XBox One S 1Tb Starter Bundle - 75 (R) - 299.99$

PS4 : 79 + 67 + 50 + 5 = 201 points (-105) ; XBO : 70 + 44 + 41 = 155 points (-36) ; NS : 91 + 52 = 143 points (-29) ; 3DS : 0 points (-)


- Gamestop :

1 (+2) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Glacier White - 42 (+8) - 399.99$
2 (+3) - XBox One X 1 Tb - 58 (+20) - 499.99$
3 (+1) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Star Wars - 68 (+9) - 399.99$
4 (-2) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb Final Fantasy XV LE - 74 (-55) - 299.97$
5 (+3) - Playstation 4 Slim 1 Tb - 85 (+71) - 299.99$
6 (-) - Nintendo Switch Neon + Zelda Bundle - 89 (+25) - 359.99$
7 (-) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 112 (+6) - 299.00$
8 (+2) - Playstation 4 Pro 1 Tb - 142 (+21) - 399.00$
9 (R) - Nintendo Switch Neon + Zelda Bundle 2 - 176 (R) - 359.99$

Out of Top 100 :

1 (-) - Playstation 4 Pro 1 Tb God of Wars - 2 (-) - 399.99$ - Preorder
9 (R) - XBox One S 500Gb Minecraft - 162 (R) - 279.99$

PS4 : 80 + 67 + 64 + 58 + 30 = 299 points (-72) ; XBO : 72 points (-10) ; NS : 56 + 45 + 13 = 114 points (+28) ; 3DS : 0 points (-)


- Walmart :

1 (+5) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb Black - 5 (+42) - 333.99$
2 (-1) - Nintendo 2DS Mario Kart 7 - 8 (+2) - 79.99$
3 (-1) - Nintendo 2DS XL New White and Orange - 18 (+3) - 129.99$
4 (-) - XBox One S 1Tb Rocket League - 27 (+4) - 299.00$
5 (+2) - Playstation 4 Slim 500Gb Black - 46 (+2) - 269.00$
6 (+2) - Xbox One S 500Gb White - 47 (+2) - 241.22$
7 (+3) - Nintendo Switch Splatoon 2 - 48 (+3) - 379.99$
8 (+1) - XBox One X 1 Tb - 49 (+1) - 499.00$
9 (+2) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 50 (+2) - 299.00$
10 (+3) - Playstation 4 Pro 1 Tb - 51 (+4) - 399.00$
11 (+1) - Nintendo Switch Grey - 52 (+2) - 299.00$
12 (+2) - Playstation 4 Pro 1 Tb Star Wars - 53 (+3) - 399.00$
13 (R) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb COD WWII - 54 (R) - 353.89$
14 (R) - Nintendo 2DS New New Super Mario Bros 2 - 57 (R) - 79.96$
15 (-) - Nintendo 2DS XL New Black and Turquoise - 58 (+1) - 129.99$

Out of Top 100 :

3 (-) - XBox One S 1Tb Playerunknown's Battlegrounds - 22 (+1) - 299.99$
5 (-) - Xbox One S 500Gb Forza/Hot Wheels - 44 (+5) - 241.22$
16 (-) - XBox One S 1Tb Minecraft LE - 68 (+3) - 299.99$


PS4 : 96 + 55 + 50 + 48 + 47 = 296 points (+98) ; XBO : 74 + 54 + 52 = 180 points (-162) ; NS : 53 + 51 + 49 = 153 points (+7) ; 3DS : 93 + 83 + 44 + 43 = 263 points (+50)


-Target :

1 (-) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 3 (-)
2 (-) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb Black - 15 (-1)
3 (-) - Nintendo Switch Grey - 16 (-)
4 (-) - Playstation 4 Pro 1 Tb - 43 (-1)
5 (-) - XBox One S 1Tb Playerunknown's Battlegrounds - 51 (+1)
6 (-) - Xbox One S 500Gb Minecraft - 61 (-1)
7 (-) - XBox One X 1 Tb - 62 (+1)
8 (-) - XBox One S 1Tb Sea of Thieves - 67 (+4) - 299.99$
9 (-1) - Nintendo 2DS Mario Kart 7 - 79 (+2)

Out of Top 100 :

-

PS4 : 86 + 58 = 149 points (-2) ; XBO : 50 + 40 + 39 + 34 = 163 points (+5) ; NS : 98 + 85 = 183 points (-) ; 3DS : 22 points (+2)

Overall (Today) :

1 (-) - PS4 : 1130 points (-42)
2 (+1) - NS : 752 points (+9)
3 (-1) - XBO : 679 points (-209)
4 (-) - 3DS : 285 points (+52)



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Great Job, the acid test for this thread comes up soon with NPD results. Might need some tweaking afterwards.



You do realise that NPD (just like VGC) estimates the sales numbers of the USA.

If you want to estimate the NPD numbers, you are basically estimating an estimation.



Zuhyc said:
You do realise that NPD (just like VGC) estimates the sales numbers of the USA.

If you want to estimate the NPD numbers, you are basically estimating an estimation.

Please don't post nonsense. NPD get real  sales from 90% of retailers, they are so accurate that nintendo/sony/micosoft use there numbers, vgchartz is just some estimate from  few insider sources.



NPD on tuesday so we will be able to see how this thread is compared to the Amazon thread.



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Symbios63 said:
48 hours from last update :

- Amazon :

1 (-) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 13 (+2) - 299.00$
2 (-) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb Black - 25 (-1) - 299.00$
3 (-) - Nintendo Switch Grey - 30 (+1) - 299.00$
4 (-) - Xbox One S 500Gb White - 40 (-6) - 240.95$
5 (-) - Playstation 4 Pro 1 Tb - 44 (-) - 399.00$
6 (-) - XBox One X 1 Tb - 53 (-) - 484.99$
7 (R) - Playstation 4 Slim 500Gb Black - 69 (R) - 269.00$
8 (-1) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Star Wars - 81 (+8) - ??

Out of Top 100 :

-

PS4 : 76 + 57 + 32 + 20 = 185 points (+39) ; XBO : 61 + 48 = 109 points (-6) ; NS : 88 + 71 = 159 points (+3) ; 3DS : 0 points (-)


- Best Buy :

1 (-) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 10 (-2) - 299.00$
2 (+1) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb Black - 22 (-10) - 299.99$
3 (+3) - XBox One X 1 Tb - 31 (-4) - 499.99$
4 (-) - Playstation 4 Pro 1 Tb - 34 (-15) - 399.00$
5 (-) - Nintendo Switch Grey - 49 (-27) - 299.00$
6 (-4) - Playstation 4 Pro 1 Tb God of Wars - 51 (-40) - 399.99$ - Preorder
7 (+3) - XBox One S 1Tb Playerunknown's Battlegrounds - 57 (+3) - 299.99$
8 (-1) - XBox One S 1Tb Sea of Thieves - 60 (-9) - 299.99$
9 (-1) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Star Wars - 96 (-40) - 399.99$

Out of Top 100 :

10 (R) - XBox One S 1Tb Starter Bundle - 75 (R) - 299.99$

PS4 : 79 + 67 + 50 + 5 = 201 points (-105) ; XBO : 70 + 44 + 41 = 155 points (-36) ; NS : 91 + 52 = 143 points (-29) ; 3DS : 0 points (-)


- Gamestop :

1 (+2) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Glacier White - 42 (+8) - 399.99$
2 (+3) - XBox One X 1 Tb - 58 (+20) - 499.99$
3 (+1) - Playstation 4 Pro 1Tb Star Wars - 68 (+9) - 399.99$
4 (-2) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb Final Fantasy XV LE - 74 (-55) - 299.97$
5 (+3) - Playstation 4 Slim 1 Tb - 85 (+71) - 299.99$
6 (-) - Nintendo Switch Neon + Zelda Bundle - 89 (+25) - 359.99$
7 (-) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 112 (+6) - 299.00$
8 (+2) - Playstation 4 Pro 1 Tb - 142 (+21) - 399.00$
9 (R) - Nintendo Switch Neon + Zelda Bundle 2 - 176 (R) - 359.99$

Out of Top 100 :

1 (-) - Playstation 4 Pro 1 Tb God of Wars - 2 (-) - 399.99$ - Preorder
9 (R) - XBox One S 500Gb Minecraft - 162 (R) - 279.99$

PS4 : 80 + 67 + 64 + 58 + 30 = 299 points (-72) ; XBO : 72 points (-10) ; NS : 56 + 45 + 13 = 114 points (+28) ; 3DS : 0 points (-)


- Walmart :

1 (+5) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb Black - 5 (+42) - 333.99$
2 (-1) - Nintendo 2DS Mario Kart 7 - 8 (+2) - 79.99$
3 (-1) - Nintendo 2DS XL New White and Orange - 18 (+3) - 129.99$
4 (-) - XBox One S 1Tb Rocket League - 27 (+4) - 299.00$
5 (+2) - Playstation 4 Slim 500Gb Black - 46 (+2) - 269.00$
6 (+2) - Xbox One S 500Gb White - 47 (+2) - 241.22$
7 (+3) - Nintendo Switch Splatoon 2 - 48 (+3) - 379.99$
8 (+1) - XBox One X 1 Tb - 49 (+1) - 499.00$
9 (+2) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 50 (+2) - 299.00$
10 (+3) - Playstation 4 Pro 1 Tb - 51 (+4) - 399.00$
11 (+1) - Nintendo Switch Grey - 52 (+2) - 299.00$
12 (+2) - Playstation 4 Pro 1 Tb Star Wars - 53 (+3) - 399.00$
13 (R) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb COD WWII - 54 (R) - 353.89$
14 (R) - Nintendo 2DS New New Super Mario Bros 2 - 57 (R) - 79.96$
15 (-) - Nintendo 2DS XL New Black and Turquoise - 58 (+1) - 129.99$

Out of Top 100 :

3 (-) - XBox One S 1Tb Playerunknown's Battlegrounds - 22 (+1) - 299.99$
5 (-) - Xbox One S 500Gb Forza/Hot Wheels - 44 (+5) - 241.22$
16 (-) - XBox One S 1Tb Minecraft LE - 68 (+3) - 299.99$


PS4 : 96 + 55 + 50 + 48 + 47 = 296 points (+98) ; XBO : 74 + 54 + 52 = 180 points (-162) ; NS : 53 + 51 + 49 = 153 points (+7) ; 3DS : 93 + 83 + 44 + 43 = 263 points (+50)


-Target :

1 (-) - Nintendo Switch Neon - 3 (-)
2 (-) - Playstation 4 Slim 1Tb Black - 15 (-1)
3 (-) - Nintendo Switch Grey - 16 (-)
4 (-) - Playstation 4 Pro 1 Tb - 43 (-1)
5 (-) - XBox One S 1Tb Playerunknown's Battlegrounds - 51 (+1)
6 (-) - Xbox One S 500Gb Minecraft - 61 (-1)
7 (-) - XBox One X 1 Tb - 62 (+1)
8 (-) - XBox One S 1Tb Sea of Thieves - 67 (+4) - 299.99$
9 (-1) - Nintendo 2DS Mario Kart 7 - 79 (+2)

Out of Top 100 :

-

PS4 : 86 + 58 = 149 points (-2) ; XBO : 50 + 40 + 39 + 34 = 163 points (+5) ; NS : 98 + 85 = 183 points (-) ; 3DS : 22 points (+2)

Overall (Today) :

1 (-) - PS4 : 1130 points (-42)
2 (+1) - NS : 752 points (+9)
3 (-1) - XBO : 679 points (-209)
4 (-) - 3DS : 285 points (+52)

Ouch, XBO really crashed and burned in those 2 days, what happened?



Zuhyc said:
You do realise that NPD (just like VGC) estimates the sales numbers of the USA.

If you want to estimate the NPD numbers, you are basically estimating an estimation.

While you are likely right in 'absolute' terms, this is howeve one of those instances where you have to apply the saying that "All animals are equal but some are more equal than others".

NPD is the most accurate 'estimation' that we have available hence the final authority on the real figures. I believe you are not asking that we need a Sharman to divine what the 100% accurate figures are ?



quickrick said:
Zuhyc said:
You do realise that NPD (just like VGC) estimates the sales numbers of the USA.

If you want to estimate the NPD numbers, you are basically estimating an estimation.

Please don't post nonsense. NPD get real  sales from 90% of retailers, they are so accurate that nintendo/sony/micosoft use there numbers, vgchartz is just some estimate from  few insider sources.

Nonsense? There is no way that NPD tracks 90% of all stores, that is way too expensive. Like all statisticians, they use samples and through a certain methodology they convert these samples into a sales estimate. I am not saying they provide inaccurate numbers.

duduspace1 said:
Zuhyc said:
You do realise that NPD (just like VGC) estimates the sales numbers of the USA.

If you want to estimate the NPD numbers, you are basically estimating an estimation.

While you are likely right in 'absolute' terms, this is howeve one of those instances where you have to apply the saying that "All animals are equal but some are more equal than others".

NPD is the most accurate 'estimation' that we have available hence the final authority on the real figures. I believe you are not asking that we need a Sharman to divine what the 100% accurate figures are ?

Oh, I agree that NPD is the most accurate by far. But I find it a bit odd to estimate an estimation. Why don't you begin your own sales tracking methodology of the US gaming market? More competition is always good for an industry :P



Minimal hardware push shown by God of War? can that be right?
It feels like alot of people have used it as a reason to go pick up a PS4 (youtube/twitter ect).



Zuhyc said:
quickrick said:

Please don't post nonsense. NPD get real  sales from 90% of retailers, they are so accurate that nintendo/sony/micosoft use there numbers, vgchartz is just some estimate from  few insider sources.

Nonsense? There is no way that NPD tracks 90% of all stores, that is way too expensive. Like all statisticians, they use samples and through a certain methodology they convert these samples into a sales estimate. I am not saying they provide inaccurate numbers.

duduspace1 said:

While you are likely right in 'absolute' terms, this is howeve one of those instances where you have to apply the saying that "All animals are equal but some are more equal than others".

NPD is the most accurate 'estimation' that we have available hence the final authority on the real figures. I believe you are not asking that we need a Sharman to divine what the 100% accurate figures are ?

Oh, I agree that NPD is the most accurate by far. But I find it a bit odd to estimate an estimation. Why don't you begin your own sales tracking methodology of the US gaming market? More competition is always good for an industry :P

Npd charges 90k for there data. aside from that sony, microsft, and nintedo all use there numbers, even when they have there own tracking system.