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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - Sea of Thieves - Metacritic/Review thread - Metascore: XBO - 69 (69 reviews) PC - 68 (23 reviews)

Neodegenerate said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
MS has other games with strong GaaS elements like Halo 5, GoW, and Forza. It’s not as if SoT is their first GaaS attempt lol.

Calling two games like Halo 5 and GoW, both shipping with a multiplayer option and a full single player campaign option, GaaS is a stretch.  I can buy Halo 5, or GoW, play the campaign and never have to buy anything else later and feel like I came away with a complete experience.  Whether or not  I liked that complete experience is another story.  You are basically saying any game that has DLC has strong GaaS elements.. which simply isn't true.

Sea of Thieves, like Street Fighter V before it, shipped as a game that feels VERY incomplete.  When SFV dropped it was "where is the story mode" and "where are these features" and SFV, a GaaS type, was rightfully raked over coals for its slow roll out.  Fast forward to now and the game is doing alright I would say.

Sea of Thieves is the same thing.  MS is asking people to spend 60 bucks on a game that after a few hours becomes repetitive.  Whether you like the repetition or not is subjective, but the game is severely lacking and not worth 60 bucks right now, just like SFV largely wasn't at launch.  IF there is enough of a player base left to warrant building on for SoT in 3 years, maybe we will look at it like we do SFV today.

Halo 5 and Gears have very strong GaaS elements with the microtransactions that fund(ed) free MP content in the future. I never said or implied that Halo and SoT are the same type of games or feature similar GaaS elements. But the fact remains that the MP in Gears and Halo have strong GaaS elements. Sea of Thieves is not MS’s first foray into the GaaS department :) It’s just radically different because it’s a very different genre than most GaaS titles.

The Division from Ubisoft has a full campaign you can play through without investing a dime in DLC or microtransactions. Yet it’s still GaaS because there are constant tweaks, updates, challenges, microtransaction content, etc. GaaS is more than just DLC and Halo/Gears employed it very well imho.



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LudicrousSpeed said:
Neodegenerate said:

Calling two games like Halo 5 and GoW, both shipping with a multiplayer option and a full single player campaign option, GaaS is a stretch.  I can buy Halo 5, or GoW, play the campaign and never have to buy anything else later and feel like I came away with a complete experience.  Whether or not  I liked that complete experience is another story.  You are basically saying any game that has DLC has strong GaaS elements.. which simply isn't true.

Sea of Thieves, like Street Fighter V before it, shipped as a game that feels VERY incomplete.  When SFV dropped it was "where is the story mode" and "where are these features" and SFV, a GaaS type, was rightfully raked over coals for its slow roll out.  Fast forward to now and the game is doing alright I would say.

Sea of Thieves is the same thing.  MS is asking people to spend 60 bucks on a game that after a few hours becomes repetitive.  Whether you like the repetition or not is subjective, but the game is severely lacking and not worth 60 bucks right now, just like SFV largely wasn't at launch.  IF there is enough of a player base left to warrant building on for SoT in 3 years, maybe we will look at it like we do SFV today.

Halo 5 and Gears have very strong GaaS elements with the microtransactions that fund(ed) free MP content in the future. I never said or implied that Halo and SoT are the same type of games or feature similar GaaS elements. But the fact remains that the MP in Gears and Halo have strong GaaS elements. Sea of Thieves is not MS’s first foray into the GaaS department :) It’s just radically different because it’s a very different genre than most GaaS titles.

The Division from Ubisoft has a full campaign you can play through without investing a dime in DLC or microtransactions. Yet it’s still GaaS because there are constant tweaks, updates, challenges, microtransaction content, etc. GaaS is more than just DLC and Halo/Gears employed it very well imho.

Sure, if you want to label all DLC and microtransaction type things as GaaS... but the huge difference here is Halo and GoW and The Division weren't saying "please pay us 60 bucks now for content we promise will be there later" like SoT is.  That's why SoT is at a 68, as it should be.



back to 69 (pls stay there)

XboxHub - 80

At its core, Sea of Thieves is a fun, innocent experience that rewards spontaneity and imagination, but becomes rather dull and repetitive if you want a linear experience. As part of Xbox Game Pass, Rare’s Sea of Thieves is more than worth the time you will put into it.



Again... no one said they utilize GaaS the same way. SoT has lots of issues and deserves its low score. But MS has had plenty of good success with GaaS this gen.



It's down to 68 again. 66 reviews.

Last edited by COKTOE - on 13 April 2018

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COKTOE said:

It's down to 68 again. 66 reviews.

guess i got that prediction 



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eva01beserk said:
COKTOE said:

It's down to 68 again. 66 reviews.

guess i got that prediction 

Damn. Good job man. I didn't make a prediction, but I was thinking mid-70's.

-I see Slade nailed it too.

Last edited by COKTOE - on 14 April 2018

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loy310 said:

Ouch!
Don’t know why I expected anything different. Does MS have a goal with Xbox, real talk? It seems they just in it now because they have the money burn.
Like what are you trying to achieve with Xbox MS?

why am I buying 1x over a PS4 and a NS?

All of this because this scored a 69? Your comment is too dramatic.

Landale_Star said:
Metacritic is 67....oh dear, bye bye Rare. Hopefully the employees can find work quickly.

It is at #2 for the month of March according to NPD. The only thing that is going bye bye is your silly claim.

bananaking21 said:
Sooner or later the publications with "xbox" in their name will run out. And then this will drop even further.

That didn't happen.

Sordel said:
At this point it doesn't matter whether its final metascore is 65 or 75. It would have needed to be at least 85 to drive takeup for XB1X and GamePass, probably higher.

Read my reply to Landale.

thismeintiel said:
COKTOE said:

Eesh. 68 now eh?

 

 

This not so hot score aside, I'm very curious to see what this game's mid-to-long term sales will be. That, along with it's *sigh*....engagement. Gonna throw some sugar on this. Coat it if you will: I am, to say the least, very leery of GAS game models, and the potential for fuckery that comes along with them.

Considering the game is #143 on Amazon, I doubt the legs are going to be great. 

NPD says a different story, it is also doing well in the UK according to GFK.



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darkenergy said:
loy310 said:

Ouch!
Don’t know why I expected anything different. Does MS have a goal with Xbox, real talk? It seems they just in it now because they have the money burn.
Like what are you trying to achieve with Xbox MS?

why am I buying 1x over a PS4 and a NS?

All of this because this scored a 69? Your comment is too dramatic.

Landale_Star said:
Metacritic is 67....oh dear, bye bye Rare. Hopefully the employees can find work quickly.

It is at #2 for the month of March according to NPD. The only thing that is going bye bye is your silly claim.

bananaking21 said:
Sooner or later the publications with "xbox" in their name will run out. And then this will drop even further.

That didn't happen.

Sordel said:
At this point it doesn't matter whether its final metascore is 65 or 75. It would have needed to be at least 85 to drive takeup for XB1X and GamePass, probably higher.

Read my reply to Landale.

thismeintiel said:

Considering the game is #143 on Amazon, I doubt the legs are going to be great. 

NPD says a different story, it is also doing well in the UK according to GFK.

 Not to mention the money they made off of game pass subscriptions. Looks like Sea of theives is going to be a staple franchise in Microsoft's first party.

 

Also, this game seems to be the fastest selling Rare game ever tracked. 

Huge success for Rare and proud of them. The game is good, but still needs more content.

Last edited by Snoopy - on 25 April 2018