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Should Goku Join Smash 5?

Yes 32 44.44%
 
No 38 52.78%
 
Broly 2 2.78%
 
Total:72
Snoorlax said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Fun fact: The only character in Smash that was created in the West is Diddy Kong. Pretty selfish, I know. 

I guess Nintendo should add Krystal to the roster so they won't seem so selfish with their own game lol! 

HoangNhatAnh said:

Rumble Pak? I can agree with you, it will be cool for a character who was created by Nin, or any character who come from video game creator, but Goku, nope, may as well ask for Pico from Boku no Pico

Is that the best you could think of? I mean if that's your thing then sure, why don't you vote for him in the next ballot? I'll stick to Goku though.

irstupid said:

I'm not saying if Goku gets in that other will, I'm saying that if Goku gets in, you will have people begging for others to get in.

The DB fanbase is huge. Look at any of the DBZ fighting games. They want everyone under the sun in their games. You don't think they would be begging for Vegeta at the very least?

I didn't say you said that if Goku gets in others will, i said that lot's of 3rd party characters have joined Smash and we haven't seen others of the same game join Smash. Of course people will beg for Vegeta and Mr. Popo but that doesn't mean we can expect them to join the roster.  

NightlyPoe said:

Just apologize for misrepresenting my view and be done with it.

Why should i

Hynad said:

Ahhh, the kid insult. 

The Goku naysayers have reached a new low.

PwerlvlAmy said:
Goku in smash would be great. Just give me an amiibo along with his release and ill be set

Goku amiibo would be awesome.

Azuren said:

They should make a Goku Amiibo to go along with a Smash appearance AND for a Dragon Ball FighterZ for Switch announcement.

agreed !!!

Simpleton said:
This has just devolved into insults and anger over a character who probably isn't going to end up in the game. (I'll eat crow if I'm wrong but this is something I'm at least somewhat sure of)

Yeah i'm dissapointed how this thread is filled with hypocrites, sarcasm and anime haters.

BTW you can start eating your crow because Goku will make it to Smash someday.

I will if he and Goku were created by a gaming company



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I would be happy to see Goku in Super Smash Bros. 5. For starters, he’s a really cool character and it would be fun to play in the game. Secondly, I am all for as many people as possible getting into the franchise and if his inclusion helps attract new people and more attention the game, then that’s another plus in my book.

We don’t know the exact results of the vote that took place a few years ago, in which Bayonetta was chosen, but I think it’s be really cool to revisit that Top 5 list and see what could be done with it. If Superman was up there and so was Wolverine (hypothetically), then there could be an issue with them not being in the same game as one another...but maybe not.

I say, let Nintendo do the best they can to bring in the most amount of new fans as possible, while delivering to its existing fan base by ensuring that the game reeks of Nintendo goodness.



Snoorlax said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Fun fact: The only character in Smash that was created in the West is Diddy Kong. Pretty selfish, I know. 

I guess Nintendo should add Krystal to the roster so they won't seem so selfish with their own game lol! 

HoangNhatAnh said:

Rumble Pak? I can agree with you, it will be cool for a character who was created by Nin, or any character who come from video game creator, but Goku, nope, may as well ask for Pico from Boku no Pico

Is that the best you could think of? I mean if that's your thing then sure, why don't you vote for him in the next ballot? I'll stick to Goku though.

irstupid said:

I'm not saying if Goku gets in that other will, I'm saying that if Goku gets in, you will have people begging for others to get in.

The DB fanbase is huge. Look at any of the DBZ fighting games. They want everyone under the sun in their games. You don't think they would be begging for Vegeta at the very least?

I didn't say you said that if Goku gets in others will, i said that lot's of 3rd party characters have joined Smash and we haven't seen others of the same game join Smash. Of course people will beg for Vegeta and Mr. Popo but that doesn't mean we can expect them to join the roster.  

NightlyPoe said:

Just apologize for misrepresenting my view and be done with it.

Why should i

Hynad said:

Ahhh, the kid insult. 

The Goku naysayers have reached a new low.

PwerlvlAmy said:
Goku in smash would be great. Just give me an amiibo along with his release and ill be set

Goku amiibo would be awesome.

Azuren said:

They should make a Goku Amiibo to go along with a Smash appearance AND for a Dragon Ball FighterZ for Switch announcement.

agreed !!!

Simpleton said:
This has just devolved into insults and anger over a character who probably isn't going to end up in the game. (I'll eat crow if I'm wrong but this is something I'm at least somewhat sure of)

Yeah i'm dissapointed how this thread is filled with hypocrites, sarcasm and anime haters.

BTW you can start eating your crow because Goku will make it to Smash someday.

Stop being such a retard. Hypocrites ? The hypocrites are you and the other people wanting Goku yet refusing other characters. 
Anime haters ? I probably watched 10 times more anime than you.

Instead of just saying a character should be in Smash, at least bring decent reasons as to why. But your low IQ probably makes you unable to do that right ?

Like seriously your main selling point was the he is Goku ? But what exactly does that mean, let me see, Goku is OP, sure but he's a pretty bad character, so how does that make him some godlike character or something. In fact, i don't know of even 1 anime fan that likes Goku, only casuals that think Dragon Ball and Naruto are the only anime that exist actually like him.

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GorillaQc said:

Stop being such a retard. Hypocrites ? The hypocrites are you and the other people wanting Goku yet refusing other characters. 
Anime haters ? I probably watched 10 times more anime than you.

Instead of just saying a character should be in Smash, at least bring decent reasons as to why. But your low IQ probably makes you unable to do that right ?

Like seriously your main selling point was the he is Goku ? But what exactly does that mean, let me see, Goku is OP, sure but he's a pretty bad character, so how does that make him some godlike character or something. In fact, i don't know of even 1 anime fan that likes Goku, only casuals that think Dragon Ball and Naruto are the only anime that exist actually like him.

Man, such aggressiveness! You're a real e-thug! 

Last edited by Hynad - on 29 March 2018

Medisti said:

I don't think it's really about what any of us associate the character with, but more where they first appeared. Goku first appeared in manga, so he isn't eligible for Smash Bros. That seems to be the only hard rule the series follows, and a softer rule of needing to have appeared on a Nintendo console (Cloud actually has, albeit in Kingdom Hearts spin-offs).

Side note: You have the best avatar ever.

I wasn't aware it was ever addressed by Sakurai, I'm just speaking hypothetically. Personally I see Smash Bros. as an IP that largely celebrates Nintendo's legacy, but I understand other people view it differently.

And thank you! I was planning on changing it a week or so ago but I couldn't do it. XD The artist is pretty amazing.

HoangNhatAnh said:

Nice avatar, i love it

Thanks! I love yours too. Best trio.



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Super_Boom said:
Medisti said:

I don't think it's really about what any of us associate the character with, but more where they first appeared. Goku first appeared in manga, so he isn't eligible for Smash Bros. That seems to be the only hard rule the series follows, and a softer rule of needing to have appeared on a Nintendo console (Cloud actually has, albeit in Kingdom Hearts spin-offs).

Side note: You have the best avatar ever.

I wasn't aware it was ever addressed by Sakurai, I'm just speaking hypothetically. Personally I see Smash Bros. as an IP that largely celebrates Nintendo's legacy, but I understand other people view it differently.

And thank you! I was planning on changing it a week or so ago but I couldn't do it. XD The artist is pretty amazing.

HoangNhatAnh said:

Nice avatar, i love it

Thanks! I love yours too. Best trio.

Actually, i think i can't let someone alone so have to change again



The reasons that are being put forth on why Goku will be in Smash are ridiculous and are just filled with strawman arguments, however, I think we should refrain from insulting and getting aggressive with each other.



Medisti said:
Super_Boom said:
Guys, really? Over a topic like this? If you can't make your point without being insulting then go somewhere else. Knock it off.

Anyways on-topic, I associate Goku as more of an anime character than a video game one, but I'm open to whatever Sakurai-sama plans. Would much rather have All Might though.

I don't think it's really about what any of us associate the character with, but more where they first appeared. Goku first appeared in manga, so he isn't eligible for Smash Bros. That seems to be the only hard rule the series follows, and a softer rule of needing to have appeared on a Nintendo console (Cloud actually has, albeit in Kingdom Hearts spin-offs).

Side note: You have the best avatar ever.

Let's see here

Just Nintendo characters = Snake and Sonic say hi

Just videogame characters = R.O.B. says hello

3rd parties that appeared on Nintendo console = Cloud emo stares.

Cloud does not represent Kingdom Hearts he represents the mainline FF series, so the spin-offs don't count.

PaulGaleNetwork said:
I would be happy to see Goku in Super Smash Bros. 5. For starters, he’s a really cool character and it would be fun to play in the game. Secondly, I am all for as many people as possible getting into the franchise and if his inclusion helps attract new people and more attention the game, then that’s another plus in my book.

We don’t know the exact results of the vote that took place a few years ago, in which Bayonetta was chosen, but I think it’s be really cool to revisit that Top 5 list and see what could be done with it. If Superman was up there and so was Wolverine (hypothetically), then there could be an issue with them not being in the same game as one another...but maybe not.

I say, let Nintendo do the best they can to bring in the most amount of new fans as possible, while delivering to its existing fan base by ensuring that the game reeks of Nintendo goodness.

I voted for Bayonetta and was happy to see her win but i honestly believe Sakurai just wanted her in the game not that she actually won the ballot.

GorillaQc said:
Snoorlax said:

I guess Nintendo should add Krystal to the roster so they won't seem so selfish with their own game lol! 

Is that the best you could think of? I mean if that's your thing then sure, why don't you vote for him in the next ballot? I'll stick to Goku though.

I didn't say you said that if Goku gets in others will, i said that lot's of 3rd party characters have joined Smash and we haven't seen others of the same game join Smash. Of course people will beg for Vegeta and Mr. Popo but that doesn't mean we can expect them to join the roster.  

Why should i

The Goku naysayers have reached a new low.

Goku amiibo would be awesome.

agreed !!!

Yeah i'm dissapointed how this thread is filled with hypocrites, sarcasm and anime haters.

BTW you can start eating your crow because Goku will make it to Smash someday.

Stop being such a retard. Hypocrites ? The hypocrites are you and the other people wanting Goku yet refusing other characters
Anime haters ? I probably watched 10 times more anime than you.

Instead of just saying a character should be in Smash, at least bring decent reasons as to why. But your low IQ probably makes you unable to do that right ?

Like seriously your main selling point was the he is Goku ? But what exactly does that mean, let me see, Goku is OP, sure but he's a pretty bad character, so how does that make him some godlike character or something. In fact, i don't know of even 1 anime fan that likes Goku, only casuals that think Dragon Ball and Naruto are the only anime that exist actually like him.

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Yeah sure buddy, lol

Super_Boom said:
Medisti said:

I don't think it's really about what any of us associate the character with, but more where they first appeared. Goku first appeared in manga, so he isn't eligible for Smash Bros. That seems to be the only hard rule the series follows, and a softer rule of needing to have appeared on a Nintendo console (Cloud actually has, albeit in Kingdom Hearts spin-offs).

Side note: You have the best avatar ever.

I wasn't aware it was ever addressed by Sakurai, I'm just speaking hypothetically. Personally I see Smash Bros. as an IP that largely celebrates Nintendo's legacy, but I understand other people view it differently.

And thank you! I was planning on changing it a week or so ago but I couldn't do it. XD The artist is pretty amazing.

HoangNhatAnh said:

Nice avatar, i love it

Thanks! I love yours too. Best trio.

That's how most of us viewed Smash up until Snake and Sonic joined the game.

 

Medisti said: 
PAOerfulone said: 

Where is this Golden Rule of Eligibility written? I would love to read it.

https://sourcegaming.info/2015/10/05/sakuraithirdparty/

And if you'd like a link to an archived version of Sakurai's statement on the Brawl website, here's that. Keep in mind, it is in Japanese.

http://web.archive.org/web/20070328190054/http://www.smashbros.com/jp/toukou/bn/no3.html

Yeah we all thought that Smash only included videogame characters and 3rd parties that appeared on Nintendo consoles but then we got Rob and Cloud. BTW here are some points that you should reread.

While it’s true that we’ve added characters from other companies,

It’s not going to be anyone and everyone.

Goku is not anyone and everyone, he's one of the most requested characters by fans.

Both companies have to want the character to join the battle.

Bandai Namco owns the videogame rights of DBZ and they co-developed Smash 4 so if they can work it out they can easily add Goku.

Funimation sure wants Goku in so we can easily get the American Dub in western versions as well.

I need them to let me take charge of the character.

Why wouldn't they do this? Every other 3rd party did with no problems.

In order to fit the character into the world of Smash, I need them to allow me some artistic license.

Same as above.

The character must carry game history with them.

DBZ game history is older than most of Nintendo's own IPS. Since 1986 all the way up to 2018 so Goku has more than enough game history.

Besides that, it might be something like a courtesy to include a character who has the experience of being on a Nintendo platform.

Dbz has appeared numerous times MORE SO than any 3rd party character that has joined Smash on Nintendo platforms and on pretty much every Nintendo console even on Switch.

Last edited by Snoorlax - on 30 March 2018

Snoorlax said:

Just Nintendo characters = Snake and Sonic say hi

Just videogame characters = R.O.B. says hello

Both series have appeared on Nintendo consoles. 

R.O.B is a Nintendo character.

3rd parties that appeared on Nintendo console = Cloud emo stares.

Cloud does not represent Kingdom Hearts he represents the mainline FF series, so the spin-offs don't count.

He's the most iconic Final Fantasy character, if he wasn't gonna be in, Final Fantasy would've been excluded period. Early Final Fantasy was on Nintendo consoles its just unfortunate that the most iconic character of the series appeared when it become a Playstation series.



Snoorlax said:
Medisti said:

I don't think it's really about what any of us associate the character with, but more where they first appeared. Goku first appeared in manga, so he isn't eligible for Smash Bros. That seems to be the only hard rule the series follows, and a softer rule of needing to have appeared on a Nintendo console (Cloud actually has, albeit in Kingdom Hearts spin-offs).

Side note: You have the best avatar ever.

Let's see here

Just Nintendo characters = Snake and Sonic say hi

Just videogame characters = R.O.B. says hello

3rd parties that appeared on Nintendo console = Cloud emo stares.

Cloud does not represent Kingdom Hearts he represents the mainline FF series, so the spin-offs don't count.

PaulGaleNetwork said:
I would be happy to see Goku in Super Smash Bros. 5. For starters, he’s a really cool character and it would be fun to play in the game. Secondly, I am all for as many people as possible getting into the franchise and if his inclusion helps attract new people and more attention the game, then that’s another plus in my book.

We don’t know the exact results of the vote that took place a few years ago, in which Bayonetta was chosen, but I think it’s be really cool to revisit that Top 5 list and see what could be done with it. If Superman was up there and so was Wolverine (hypothetically), then there could be an issue with them not being in the same game as one another...but maybe not.

I say, let Nintendo do the best they can to bring in the most amount of new fans as possible, while delivering to its existing fan base by ensuring that the game reeks of Nintendo goodness.

I voted for Bayonetta and was happy to see her win but i honestly believe Sakurai just wanted her in the game not that she actually won the ballot.

GorillaQc said:

Stop being such a retard. Hypocrites ? The hypocrites are you and the other people wanting Goku yet refusing other characters
Anime haters ? I probably watched 10 times more anime than you.

Instead of just saying a character should be in Smash, at least bring decent reasons as to why. But your low IQ probably makes you unable to do that right ?

Like seriously your main selling point was the he is Goku ? But what exactly does that mean, let me see, Goku is OP, sure but he's a pretty bad character, so how does that make him some godlike character or something. In fact, i don't know of even 1 anime fan that likes Goku, only casuals that think Dragon Ball and Naruto are the only anime that exist actually like him.

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Yeah sure buddy, lol

Super_Boom said:

I wasn't aware it was ever addressed by Sakurai, I'm just speaking hypothetically. Personally I see Smash Bros. as an IP that largely celebrates Nintendo's legacy, but I understand other people view it differently.

And thank you! I was planning on changing it a week or so ago but I couldn't do it. XD The artist is pretty amazing.

Thanks! I love yours too. Best trio.

That's how most of us viewed Smash up until Snake and Sonic joined the game.

 

Medisti said: 

https://sourcegaming.info/2015/10/05/sakuraithirdparty/

And if you'd like a link to an archived version of Sakurai's statement on the Brawl website, here's that. Keep in mind, it is in Japanese.

http://web.archive.org/web/20070328190054/http://www.smashbros.com/jp/toukou/bn/no3.html

Yeah we all thought that Smash only included videogame characters and 3rd parties that appeared on Nintendo consoles but then we got Rob and Cloud. BTW here are some points that you should reread.

While it’s true that we’ve added characters from other companies,

It’s not going to be anyone and everyone.

Goku is not anyone and everyone, he's one of the most requested characters by fans.

Both companies have to want the character to join the battle.

Bandai Namco owns the videogame rights of DBZ and they co-developed Smash 4 so if they can work it out they can easily add Goku.

Funimation sure wants Goku in so we can easily get the American Dub in western versions as well.

I need them to let me take charge of the character.

Why wouldn't they do this? Every other 3rd party did with no problems.

In order to fit the character into the world of Smash, I need them to allow me some artistic license.

Same as above.

The character must carry game history with them.

DBZ game history is older than most of Nintendo's own IPS. Since 1986 all the way up to 2018 so Goku has more than enough game history.

Besides that, it might be something like a courtesy to include a character who has the experience of being on a Nintendo platform.

Dbz has appeared numerous times MORE SO than any 3rd party character that has joined Smash on Nintendo platforms and on pretty much every Nintendo console even on Switch.

I said nothing about Nintendo characters only. Snake had been on the NES and Gamecube (Twin Snakes) and Sonic had been on the Gamecube, so I don't really know what your point is there.

R.O.B. is a peripheral made for video games. The Super Scope is in the game as well. That's like saying amiibo don't count as video game accessories. Again, I fail to see your point.

Sakurai said in an interview when he decided he wanted a Final Fantasy character first, and then started looking at the series's history with Nintendo. Cloud was only allowed because of the spin-offs, so again, you have no point. He also said if Cloud hadn't been in those spin-off, Buttz was the next choice because of Final Fantasy V being on SNES. (Why VI wasn't considered, don't me.)

Basically, you've added nothing. So good work.