Oh god, this argument. That was not even the point of what was being said. That’s the definition of the word. Dunno why the support or advocacy of the rights of women offends you so much. Also, let’s just pretend for a moment, that instead of reading off the definition of the word, I was talking about the rights of women in general. In that case I would am very much for the rights women lack in the middle east -countries like Afghanistan where women are not allowed to go out on their own without their husband/son/brother or else they face legal consequences... or worse. The abuse rate for wives in that country is over 80%, one of the highest in the world. However, they aren’t the only country where women are second class citizens -many African and middle eastern nations have similar realities. I’m not someone who is focused solely on the US.

But for American women, I think they need to be educated on their rights and be encouraged to use them. Because using your rights is one of the key pillars of democracy, and in a democracy those rights are like muscles, and much like people who do not exercise -those who don’t use their rights are at risk of losing their rights. So I’d advise women in this country to educate themselves for their own sake

If you're arguing with people who fundamentally agree with what you're saying, then that probably means that you're not doing a very good job explaining your views.

Please, don't defend this just due to looking progressive or national pride. Like abolitionism regarding soliciting, defending this kind of micromanagement is demented.   

So the fine actually was for "disrespecting the authority" then. I can deal with that. 

Remind me to avert Northern Europe unless it's Denmark or the British Isles from now on... 

Insulting ANYONE who isn't an officer or authority figure should not be fined under any circumstances. Ever. You're hearing that from a Spaniard. The people would go ballistic over here if this stuff was widespread. 

If stupidity and saying or DOING stupid things were a punishable crime, MOST human beings on the planet, including I'd wager many on these very forums, would be "criminals". The issue here is the precedent that it will help set. It is one thing to say that you can get fined or arrested for even so much as "talking back" to a police officer. That in and of itself isn't right, but it is something that can happen pretty much at the officer in question's discretion, even here in the US.

But if it is a "crime" to be sexist, racist, or "homophobic/transphobic/whatever", that opens up an entire other Pandora's  Box that will absolutely devolve society: Personal Discretion. Meaning, that it is completely up to the "offended" or "oppressed" party, to decide whether or not they FEEL that they were harassed, or that a specific given remark or action was in fact "Sexist", and thus reportable and punishable to the law.

It is no different than the growing "Me Too/Time's Up" climate on social media, etc. It is 100% up to, for example, a given woman, to decide whether or not she FEELS as if she was harassed, assaulted, etc. She gets to decide how she interprets a man's actions, and if she reports it as such, how he will be "punished" for it, whether by an actual court of law, or simply having his reputation and life destroyed by the social media "court of public opinion". We've already seen this at work in multiple cases.

If there are actual LAWS on the books in countries, saying that it is illegal to say or do things that can be TAKEN as "sexist", that is a horrible precedent to establish. In the case of, say, a theft, or a murder, it is pretty clear cut, usually, whether there actually WAS a murder or a theft, or not. But THIS kind of shit, is totally up to individual interpretation. Punishing someone for, at its most base level, equates to "Being a Jerk", is some scary, dangerous dystopian type stuff.

Yes, ideally, no one should BE "stupid" or BE a "jerk". But those things aren't crimes, and shouldn't be. If you're not LITERALLY harming another person, then you have a right to say or act however you want. THIS case is a cop. But how many future cases are going to be just some girl or LGBTQ etc., deciding that they were "oppressed" by the way someone spoke, acted, worded an article, etc. etc. etc.? Yeah....that's a pretty big problem.

A fine for offending a police officer ? That´s ok. But jail ? That´s extreme.

It seems that the next step in our society is bringing back the inquisition.

Because men on average are more physically capable. Rhonda isn't an example, she's an exception.

All these first world countries are making fools of themselves by introducing laws that compel or prevent speech. The only kind of speech that should be illegal are threats. Feelings shouldn't be protected by law.

tbh i was just joking

we are now reaching a point in society where its becoming common for an argument like the one i made to be presented sincerely and its so bizarre that even now i still struggle to comprehend it

ironically its all done in the name of helping women under the incredibly stupid proposition that men and women are the same without acknowleging that since the sexes are different that what will ultimately happen is that women will be harmed and we are seeing this already

the point i'm making is that if that is the stated aim(which has been accomplished for decades) and the group is more active now than ever then clearly there's a disconnect between the stated aim and the current activity of the group

how is this not obvious? how is it not obvious that this is the reason for making this argument?

" In that case I would am very much for the rights women lack in the middle east -countries like Afghanistan where women are not allowed to go out on their own without their husband/son/brother or else they face legal consequences... or worse."

feminists for the most part in the west support islam which is the ideological foundation that causes women to be mistreated in those areas... 

"But for American women, I think they need to be educated on their rights and be encouraged to use them."

and what rights are women neglecting?

what also baffles me about this is that am i really supposed to believe that the guys in this thread championing what happened to this guy have never had a disagreement and cursed severely at someone else?