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Is Russia closer to causing a massive War than North Korea or even the United States?

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spurgeonryan said:

Unlike North Korea they continuously act out actual events that are terrible. The leader seems more insane than Trump and the guy in North Korea,  and they are implied in many other destructive acts. 

Or are they just worse at hiding their acts unlike America and China?

 

What should be done about this country that has been a loose cannon for a century?

Not much can be done. Russia like the USA owns a huge stockpile of nuclear devices of all kinds. On top of that they are developing a MOAB capable of destroying a territory the size of France or Texas with only one hit.

So at most Russia will get a slight slap on the hand if it doesn't behave, perhaps a few economic sanctions that won't change anything but nothing else can be done unless we wish to risk WW3.



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They won’t start a war. They aren’t dumb. But they are dangerous, much more so than North Korea or any terrorist groups. Like what has been said before, they’re testing out how much they can push before retaliation. Of course, the western worlds main priority should be for the execution of Putin and the dismemberment of Russia. The country has no right to its existence and should have been dealt its final blow in 1991. But due to weak leadership, it didn’t die. It is not nearly as strong as when it was the USSR, but it is still dangerous. Once the US gets its shit together most, if not all, of our efforts should go into destroying it



I wonder why the UK government is making such a big deal out of the poisoning of a spy.



Russia is the moral panic of the day (along with OMG Nazis!) two forces which were ironically massively opposed to eachother back in WWII lol. The authoritarian left with their Russian xenophobia don't even see the irony that they're doing the exact same thing the authoritarian right did 40-50 years ago. Never thought I'd see a revival of the Cold War in my lifetime.. 

I know very little about Putin, but I don't think he'd be reckless enough to start a nuclear war. Kim Jong Un on the other hand? More of a question mark.. Though nuclear war started by ANY of these countries is like a one in a million chance.. These leaders know this would essentially be the end of civilization. The media loves to keep people scared about these sorts of things, and many sadly buy in.. 



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okr said:
I wonder why the UK government is making such a big deal out of the poisoning of a spy.

Because the poisoning effects much more than just them. It effects anyone who was in the vicinity of the chemical weapon. It has no cure and the side effects can take anywhere from weeks to years to take a toll on the body. That and a foreign government just committed murder in their country which violates a whole other set of laws



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PSintend0 said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
Russia is just a leftwing boogeyman. I realize that's not a popular thing to say on here on this site. But that's the way I see it.

I also concur with Final Fan, Russia wont start WW3 or a massive war, if anything it will be us, the united states, who instigates the start of it

Tell that to Ukraine...

To be fair to them, Ukraine did face a coup and their elected leader did ask for Russia to "do something"... 

spurgeonryan said:

Unlike North Korea they continuously act out actual events that are terrible. The leader seems more insane than Trump and the guy in North Korea,  and they are implied in many other destructive acts. 

Or are they just worse at hiding their acts unlike America and China?

 

What should be done about this country that has been a loose cannon for a century?

It's not that they are worse at hiding their acts. They simply don't. Why? Because unlike America, Russia is very upfront with their horrible stuff. The US hides it and lets it leak slowly. If they operated like Russia, I suspect they'd have been embargo'd by the rest of the planet... 

They are not a loose cannon any more than the other two of the "BIg Three". They just are very upfront about it because Russians don't really like hypocrites. There's nothing they hate more than double standards. If the US can do X, then they will do Y just to remind the US that they can do the same shit and face the same consequences and if not, they will keep doing so until the US and the rest of the world applies the US logic to them, whether by intimidation, apathy or sheer fear for their lives. 

I think so far, it has worked: The West is a complete trainwreck and heading downhill fast, and with the US discoordinated into oblivion, there's no one to stop the slide... I think it's a deserved end for us idiots who kept electing sickos to power. 

Hey, if they leave Juncker unemployed, they can't possibly be evil... The enemy of my enemy is my friend after all. 



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    There is only one nation on this planet that has ever used nuclear weapons to attack another nation and kill people. I would consider that nation to be the biggest threat to world peace.



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    OdinHades said:
    There is only one nation on this planet that has ever used nuclear weapons to attack another nation and kill people. I would consider that nation to be the biggest threat to world peace.

    If oversimplification helps you sleep at night, then go for it.  But dropping the bomb on two cities still caused fewer civilian casualties than an all-out invasion, even without considering the inevitable "human wave" tactics they'd have been dragooned into, and the little fact that large portions of the country were on the verge of starving to death. 



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    Final-Fan said:
    OdinHades said:
    There is only one nation on this planet that has ever used nuclear weapons to attack another nation and kill people. I would consider that nation to be the biggest threat to world peace.

    If oversimplification helps you sleep at night, then go for it.  But dropping the bomb on two cities still caused fewer civilian casualties than an all-out invasion, even without considering the inevitable "human wave" tactics they'd have been dragooned into, and the little fact that large portions of the country were on the verge of starving to death. 

    Well if we are going to be Honest, the US could have ignited those bombs offshore as a warning to gage reactions first, then if they "had to", drop bombs on military targets, but the reason that is cited by some back then is that the US wanted to see what a Atom bomb could do to a city full of people, in retrospect it was the World's worst war crime in modern history, but no one has ever been charged or investigated  



    Reminder, as long as the US exists in it's current form, Russia gets all the Carte Blanches they request from me so long as they don't commit genocide...

    Sorry not sorry, but a superpower and an unipolar world are a complete perversion of the natural order of the world borne solely out of an ungodly fusion of assimilationist imperialism, the favors of the world's most powerful empire at the time and geographical isolation.

    The United States is the size it is due to sheer dumb luck,,, Similar countries collapsed at one point or the other. It's a wonder America hasn't, or that it hasn't had to deal with Russia's imperial overstretch or China and India's demographic instability.

    Almost every other state the size of the US hasn't remained stable for long because sheer size makes them unstable without a strong hand, thus why two out of the three mentioned states have only succeeded under autocratic governments and underperformed under liberal ones and why similar unions dissolved when the leaders' refused to consolidate power, like Imperial Brazil or Gran Colombia...

    It might have been misconstrued, but the fake statement of "There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America" from Bismarck rings true. No other country under near identical circumstances emerged or stayed stable for long. Thus the conclusion is that the US is just marginally more stable and by virtue of it's nature, will naturally fall or be felled, or that it's effectively manipulating the circumstances to stay stable. After the Great Recession, I feel it's the latter. Thus, a resilient great power in direct opposition is necessary to limit their ability to change the rules whenever they near breaking point and they follow the natural course of events and do break.

    This seems off topic, but it's the rationale behind the reason why I ignore Russia and China's acts. Those two countries will be very strong, but they will not be the colossal behemoths the US is because natural order just doesn't allow for it. If everyone lived like an American, we would need the resources of more than one Earth. That alone drives the point home that the US is bloated beyond belief and a negative contributor. It needs to be trimmed to be competitive and efficient. Their status as a Superpower and their drive to keep it are the reason they are gobbling up resources the way they are and no Green Revolution is going to change this. Thus, a Great Power outsmarting them is necessary to push them to breaking point like they did with the USSR. Thankfully, the US has a lower tolerance threshold for the size the military can grow before their economy cannot keep up. It's good to know that you don't need to outspend them to do this, so long as new innovations keep coming out, the US will increase spending until their economy snaps... Alternatively, they cool down and their projection power dwindles, and probably never recovers once they learn how pointless it was.

    Well, as one would put it... They have too much power, and power corrupts. No need to say anything further.



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