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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware Sales 17 February 2018

chakkra said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Another week, another PS4 win.

I think the only week where the PS4 is gonna lose WW is during Smash week.  Other than that..

Ps4 was barely above 3ds in japan before the holidays and dont be suprised to see it drop off in eu aswell its gonna be very close in 2 or 3 weeks



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kirby007 said:
chakkra said:

I think the only week where the PS4 is gonna lose WW is during Smash week.  Other than that..

Ps4 was barely above 3ds in japan before the holidays and dont be suprised to see it drop off in eu aswell its gonna be very close in 2 or 3 weeks

Agreed.  It is gonna be very close in 2 or 3 weeks.

But I think the PS4 is gonna win anyway thou



The only real fight is between the PS4 and the Switch and the PS4 is beating the Switch overall and that is really something because with about 76 million PS4 sold so far, the amount of people "left" to still buy a PS4 is shrinking, whereas those for a Switch is still huge so despite this the PS4 is still first which is very impressive.
This makes me think that the Switch will not sell as much in lifetime sales as the PS4 will.



While I share your opinion that the Switch may not outsell PS4, I don't understand your argumentation. Switch sells slightly better that the PS4 did in its first year, even though back then the amount of people "left" to buy a PS4 was significantly higher than now.



Thaddaeus02 said:

While I share your opinion that the Switch may not outsell PS4, I don't understand your argumentation. Switch sells slightly better that the PS4 did in its first year, even though back then the amount of people "left" to buy a PS4 was significantly higher than now.

Yes and that demonstrates that my argument is only part of the equation and so I'm NOT saying the Switch won't sell as much as PS4 for SURE. I'm just saying there is a trend there.

Exactly as we would have said after 1 year of PS4 sales back in 2014 that the PS4 is selling well but no one could say back then that it will get to 100M lifetime.

At this point I'd say this: If Nintendo does not release big guns within the Switch's lifetime sales it will ALMOST for sure never sell as much as the PS4. But I assume that Nintendo will release big titles in the coming years. A new big Zelda and Mario would definitely help and there is still Metroid Prime 4 still coming.

All I'm saying is that right now the PS4 despite having sold so much and definitely not "young" in sales manages to still be number 1 and that is very impressive by any standards.



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Mar1217 said:
chakkra said:

I think the only week where the PS4 is gonna lose WW is during Smash week.  Other than that..

I'll say that Kirby's week will make the Switch win worldwide.

While it is possible, I find it to be HIGHLY unlikely.



CrazyGamer2017 said:
Thaddaeus02 said:

While I share your opinion that the Switch may not outsell PS4, I don't understand your argumentation. Switch sells slightly better that the PS4 did in its first year, even though back then the amount of people "left" to buy a PS4 was significantly higher than now.

Yes and that demonstrates that my argument is only part of the equation and so I'm NOT saying the Switch won't sell as much as PS4 for SURE. I'm just saying there is a trend there.

Exactly as we would have said after 1 year of PS4 sales back in 2014 that the PS4 is selling well but no one could say back then that it will get to 100M lifetime.

At this point I'd say this: If Nintendo does not release big guns within the Switch's lifetime sales it will ALMOST for sure never sell as much as the PS4. But I assume that Nintendo will release big titles in the coming years. A new big Zelda and Mario would definitely help and there is still Metroid Prime 4 still coming.

All I'm saying is that right now the PS4 despite having sold so much and definitely not "young" in sales manages to still be number 1 and that is very impressive by any standards.

Your two posts are just bizarre. You're trying to argue that PS4 selling a little more than Switch right now means that Switch won't beat PS4. There is literally no correlation or trend to take from that. Thaddeus correctly correlated two pieces of data by comparing their first year sales, I don't think you understand how to make relations with data.

And now you're talking about a possible future in which Nintendo won't bring its big games to the Switch???? What???? Seriously...Whatt?? Why would you even say that? That is such a bizarre thing to say. Of course they are going to put ALL their big franchises on the Switch, its their only platform once the 3DS dies off. Just such a weird non-sensical thing to say, which goes along with your very strange attempt to correlate current weekly sales with lifetime sales of a system. PS4 is in the later stages of its peak years, Switch is still ramping up production and trying to meet demand and for the Feb 17th charts is not even one year since it launched so is nowhere near its peak years...and yet you don't consider that at all. Just a very strange couple of posts from you to be honest.



Slownenberg said:

Your two posts are just bizarre. You're trying to argue that PS4 selling a little more than Switch right now means that Switch won't beat PS4. There is literally no correlation or trend to take from that. Thaddeus correctly correlated two pieces of data by comparing their first year sales, I don't think you understand how to make relations with data.

And now you're talking about a possible future in which Nintendo won't bring its big games to the Switch???? What???? Seriously...Whatt?? Why would you even say that? That is such a bizarre thing to say. Of course they are going to put ALL their big franchises on the Switch, its their only platform once the 3DS dies off. Just such a weird non-sensical thing to say, which goes along with your very strange attempt to correlate current weekly sales with lifetime sales of a system. PS4 is in the later stages of its peak years, Switch is still ramping up production and trying to meet demand and for the Feb 17th charts is not even one year since it launched so is nowhere near its peak years...and yet you don't consider that at all. Just a very strange couple of posts from you to be honest.

You seem to have some issues with the English language. I clearly made my point and spoke of trends and not in absolutes.

And I NEVER said Nintendo won't bring their games to Switch, where in the universe do you see me say that? Like seriously dude, work on your English please cause debates are complicated enough when people tackle you on statements you make without adding extra confusion by trying to debate on things you did NOT say. And I don't mind debating the former but the latter is just a waste of time.



When will we be able to see year to date numbers on the front page?



CrazyGamer2017 said:
Slownenberg said:

Your two posts are just bizarre. You're trying to argue that PS4 selling a little more than Switch right now means that Switch won't beat PS4. There is literally no correlation or trend to take from that. Thaddeus correctly correlated two pieces of data by comparing their first year sales, I don't think you understand how to make relations with data.

And now you're talking about a possible future in which Nintendo won't bring its big games to the Switch???? What???? Seriously...Whatt?? Why would you even say that? That is such a bizarre thing to say. Of course they are going to put ALL their big franchises on the Switch, its their only platform once the 3DS dies off. Just such a weird non-sensical thing to say, which goes along with your very strange attempt to correlate current weekly sales with lifetime sales of a system. PS4 is in the later stages of its peak years, Switch is still ramping up production and trying to meet demand and for the Feb 17th charts is not even one year since it launched so is nowhere near its peak years...and yet you don't consider that at all. Just a very strange couple of posts from you to be honest.

You seem to have some issues with the English language. I clearly made my point and spoke of trends and not in absolutes.

And I NEVER said Nintendo won't bring their games to Switch, where in the universe do you see me say that? Like seriously dude, work on your English please cause debates are complicated enough when people tackle you on statements you make without adding extra confusion by trying to debate on things you did NOT say. And I don't mind debating the former but the latter is just a waste of time.

"At this point I'd say this: If Nintendo does not release big guns within the Switch's lifetime sales it will ALMOST for sure never sell as much as the PS4"

 

This is what he is referring to, while you didnt say this will happen, its still a really weird thing to even suggest because it has 0% chance of happening making it a completely useless thing to discuss.



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