Well, the good thing is when one out of a thousand people share this opinion and a company doesn't do anything to placate the oddity the vast majority of us still get the products we all are looking forward to.
| fatslob-:O said: I'm not surprised given OP's state, Nintendo is obviously not off to a good start if they are banking on finding a golden nugget over duds among duds ... (a unified development team isn't much of an advantage when it's still just as hard to push out new high production value titles on higher end systems for them) |
Oh boy, are you in for a surprise.
And lol at all the doom and gloom. They're doing quite amazing so far this year.
"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides
mZuzek said:
Because his stance was "I have standards" implying that the Nintendo games coming out this year aren't any good at all. And no, this isn't a question of subjectivity, because there is a thing called general consensus and most people would agree that years like 2015 and especially 2016 were mostly very underwhelming. 2018's lineup isn't bad at all, so just because you don't like some of the games coming out doesn't mean other people don't have standards, that's actually pretty disrespectful. |
You're always doing this whenever someone doesn't like what you like.
His stance is his. His standards are his. He didn't say his standards were the only right ones or that other people don't have different standards. But since he doesn't like what you life, you get defensive like it's the case with you more often than not.
And yeah, it is a question of subjectivity. His stance doesn't have to align with those other people you mention. "You can't say this is not good based on your standards, because there's a general consensus, and that alone dictates that your standards aren't good!" Like, seriously, really?
| DélioPT said: "No, you can't always do better. That exaggeration isn't true." Did i ever say that sales weren't good or hinted that if Nintendo saw the sales figures they would realised what i have been writing? You believe that Switch couldn't do more if the line-up was better? Fine. You don't care if it could be better and it isn't - or at least shaping up to be? Fine. The PS4 comment was made in reply to Zorg who implied that we are seeing a strong momentum and we would continue to see it. I don't really understand your last paragraph. |
Except it's not an exaggeration (you should probably look up the word), but even if it somehow was, what does that have to do anything? Certainly doesn't make what I said any less correct.
Again, you claim Nintendo's 2018 line-up is bad, and you said you were speaking from a business standpoint, so that can only imply you believe the sales are bad/will be bad. I mean if the sales are good, then obviously the line-up isn't bad.
"You believe that Switch couldn't do more if the line-up was better?" Are you not paying attention, cause I've repeatedly been saying that things can always be better, hence why it's a moot point.
Not sure what you think explaining why you made the PS4 comment is gonna do, but it still doesn't help you. PS4 having drops but still selling well overall (you admitted this), only shows to me that Switch can still do well even if it's sales dip a bit. This would only work in your favor if PS4 started strong but then dropped off.
Your very first comment in this thread is of you saying this is a bad year.
DélioPT said:
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Your post is wrong on so many levels that hilarious. :D
No with current lineup they don't risk nothing, sales proves that. Actualy Wii U fail is reason why Nintendo had so may big hiters in Switchs 1st year, to be sure it will start selling great out of gate, they dont need so many hevy hitters in 2018. to keep momentum, sales again proves that.
Offcourse you are not marketing expert, fact is that you could say that for evre product and even for PS4, so saying that could sell better if would have better lineup or bigger games is pointless, we can say thing for PS4 and XB1 also. How exatly 2017. proves I am wrong when most likly in 2018. Switch will sell better that it did in 2017!? You relly dont make any sense.
Thats not just my answer thats a fact, Nintendo even in 2017. was hyping games that were be released in near future, but you again ignoring that fact, now they doing same thing with this year and you again fail too see that, fact that all games from last Direct except Smash Bros will be released until July proves that.
I said much more things than that are clear facts, but you keep ignoring them, so I agree this is relly pointles, also ask you self why you are curntly argiung with several difrent people about similar things, what do you think who is wrong!? ;)
So some of you guys are telling me none of these games below interest you in the slightest:
- South Park: Fractured But Whole
- Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
- Dark Souls: Remastered
- Mario Tennis Aces
- Crash Bandicoot: N'sane Trilogy
- Octopath Traveler
- Okami HD
- Splatoon 2: Octo Expansion
- Super Smash Bros. for Switch
- Hollow Knight
- Inside
- Undertale
- Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes
- Valkyria Chronicles 4
- Little Nightmares: Complete Edition
- The World Ends With You: Final Remix
- Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana
- Dead Cells
- Mega Man 11
- Wolfenstein 2
- Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle Expansion
- Pillars of Eternity 2
This alone is far better than any year of the Wii U. And more third party games will undoubtly come like the new Sonic racing game that is heavily rumoured.
Last edited by Alkibiádēs - on 14 March 2018"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides
| Alkibiádēs said: So some of you guys are telling me none of these games below interest you in the slightest: This alone is far better than any year of the Wii U. |
You can add to that list V-Rally 4 that's announced today. :)
mZuzek said:
If your "standard" is that Super Smash Bros. isn't a good game, then yes, you're quite objectively wrong. Anyone's allowed to dislike whatever they will and everyone dislikes good or even great games, too, but that doesn't excuse moaning about how terrible a lineup is when it's filled with great games that people have been asking for and are now excited to get. Either way, whatever. |
It's bad to him. To him.
If you say everyone is allowed to dislike whatever they will, why do you jump at people when they don't like what you or many others do? They're allowed to dislike something only when it's not something you're looking forward to?
mZuzek said:
If your "standard" is that Super Smash Bros. isn't a good game, then yes, you're quite objectively wrong. Anyone's allowed to dislike whatever they will and everyone dislikes good or even great games, too, but that doesn't excuse moaning about how terrible a lineup is when it's filled with great games that people have been asking for and are now excited to get. Either way, whatever. |
But whether a game is good or not is subjective, so I don't see how someone could be objectively wrong for saying it's not a good game.
Hynad said:
It's bad to him. To him. |
Not liking =/= its bad
He said he doesnt like the lineup because he has standards which implies anyone who does like it has no standards.
When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.
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