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AJNShelton on 09 March 2018
MTZehvor said:

I disagree with the second point; I think it's highly possible that an updated version of Smash 4 with a sizable amount of new content could very well be held under wraps for that reason, especially if it's going to be Nintendo's biggest hitter this year while we wait for Pokemon and Metroid Prime 4.

It was introduced just like they did with Yoshi and Kirby during E3 2017, some footages, game title and 2018. And both Yoshi and Kirby are new games and not ports. Absolutely nothing suggests that it is a port. It's may be your guess, but all the evidence show the opposite.



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CrowRSchneider on 09 March 2018
Jranation said:
CrowRSchneider said:
If new, it's gonna be delayed.

If Smash is Nintendos big title for Oct/Nov. I don't see that happening. 

It just feels too early for Smash, maybe is more like a Smash 4.5 like Splatoon 2, who knows.



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MTZehvor on 09 March 2018
SKMBlake said:
MTZehvor said:

I disagree with the second point; I think it's highly possible that an updated version of Smash 4 with a sizable amount of new content could very well be held under wraps for that reason, especially if it's going to be Nintendo's biggest hitter this year while we wait for Pokemon and Metroid Prime 4.

It was introduced just like they did with Yoshi and Kirby during E3 2017, some footages, game title and 2018. And both Yoshi and Kirby are new games and not ports. Absolutely nothing suggests that it is a port. It's may be your guess, but all the evidence show the opposite.

Except Kirby and Yoshi both had gameplay shown and Nintendo was very quick to state that both were new games when asked. Since we're on the subject of how Nintendo has handled things in the past, I don't think we've ever had an announcement this vague before, where not only is there no title or gameplay shown, but also no one is willing to commit to what the game is exactly. I don't really see this as an indication one way or the other; it's so far removed from anything that I can think of.

Beyond that, I've gone over my reasons for believing it's a port/upgraded edition in other posts. Even if it is possible it's a quick turnaround time for a Smash game and announcing it this close to release is an odd choice for marketing given how the past two Smash titles have approached things and been very successful. It strikes me as very un-Smash like given recent history, hence why I'm inclined to believe it's a port for the time being. That's the "absolutely nothing" that suggests it to me.



AJNShelton on 09 March 2018
MTZehvor said:
SKMBlake said:

It was introduced just like they did with Yoshi and Kirby during E3 2017, some footages, game title and 2018. And both Yoshi and Kirby are new games and not ports. Absolutely nothing suggests that it is a port. It's may be your guess, but all the evidence show the opposite.

Except Kirby and Yoshi both had gameplay shown and Nintendo was very quick to state that both were new games when asked. Since we're on the subject of how Nintendo has handled things in the past, I don't think we've ever had an announcement this vague before, where not only is there no title or gameplay shown, but also no one is willing to commit to what the game is exactly. I don't really see this as an indication one way or the other; it's so far removed from anything that I can think of.

Beyond that, I've gone over my reasons for believing it's a port/upgraded edition in other posts. Even if it is possible it's a quick turnaround time for a Smash game and announcing it this close to release is an odd choice for marketing given how the past two Smash titles have approached things and been very successful. It strikes me as very un-Smash like given recent history, hence why I'm inclined to believe it's a port for the time being. That's the "absolutely nothing" that suggests it to me.

Fair enough. You have all the rights to belive it's a port and looking at what you've said since the beginning, it could be either a port or a new game, no one can say if it's proven to be a new game or a port, I agree with that.



NPCmates on 09 March 2018
PSintend0 said:
NPCmates said:
I get the feeling its gonna be like Splatoon 2 which is pretty much the first one but just different enough which is fine by me but still kinda feels hollow for us who grabbed all the games on Wii U.

Sequels can feel that way, be it metroid prime 2,3 or smash bros melee or pokemon x or call of duty something.

Every smash has been quite similar to the previous one. They look better and have more characters and maybe some new modes. So its going to be similar no matter what and thats fine by me. Now with the online thing being a thing more than with wii or wii u they can and propably will release some content after launch, be it free or payid (as they already did with wii u, but even more this time). System akin to splatoon could even work.

yeah I know just seems to feel a little too much the same with Nintendo stuff I think I just been growing out of there games with time nothing they do seems to get me pumped anymore though that Captain Toad game I'm so on that haha. 
I really hope the online works well never really got to test my skill against others in smash.
Also the fact people are arguing over this being a port or not really does show how there game releases have been so far.



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killeryoshis on 10 March 2018

You guys are fighting over nothing. The fact that it just says "Super Smash Bros" means that it is actually a port of the N64 game! That's why it has no subtitle.



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Spindel on 10 March 2018

My body is as ready as it can be!

Oh and a singelplayer in the likeness of The Subspace Emissary would be nice.



Kai_Mao on 10 March 2018

I will say, introducing the Inklings like this for Smash is a fitting way to do it. It sparks memories of their introduction trailer at E3 2014 and, in a sense, allows Mario and Link, Nintnedo’s two old reliables, to induct them into their group as the Next Generation of fighters in Smash, while creating new memes. Considering the doubts/disadvantages the original Splatoon had against it, whether it be having relatively low content to start at full price, gyro controls, no voice chat, unusual leveling and ranking system, and being under a console with low sales, Splatoon emerged as a hot newIP, especially in Japan.

It now has holographic concerts for the Squid Sisters and Off the Hook, food/merchandise, art books, a manga, an anime, etc. under its belt. It is challenging IPs such as Dragon Quest and Monster Hunter for Japanese dominance (outside of Pokémon, of course) and the sequel just became the first 2 million seller on home consoles in Japan since Wii Party in 2010. Really cool seeing Splatoon evolve in such a short amount of time.



Miyamotoo on 10 March 2018

A clearer look at the silhouettes from the Smash Bros. Switch trailer



Wyrdness on 10 March 2018
MTZehvor said:

And again, the instance of a single counter example in a totally different game genre does not precedent set. Just because it can be done does not mean that Nintendo would be likely to pursue that same philosophy for every game. If a game tends to follow a certain precedent for a game series, that precedent is usually a much better indicator of what will happen rather than how some other totally unrelated company making a game in a different genre approached development.

As for Nintendo's history being deviated from, I'd invite you to take a look at dev time cycles for Nintendo's major games since the Gamecube era even in this age of change. Take Zelda, for instance, which had a similar dev cycle for BotW. Or Fire Emblem which, provided FE 16 still comes out this year, will have roughly the same or longer dev cycle as Shadow Dragon, Awakening, and Fates. Or Metroid, which has kept a similar dev cycle time of around 2-3 years for games since the GBA era up to last year's Samus Returns. So yeah, Nintendo's changed the way they approach things recently, especially marketing, but there's no indication that applies to development time.

And I mean sure, it doesn't need to advertise different characters, but it certainly benefits. Nintendo didn't spend money on a bunch of character trailers for Brawl and Smash 4 just because they wanted to give their animation team some practice; they did it because it generates excitement for a new game. If they got the same benefit from just announcing a new Smash game as they did designing a bunch of trailers and marketing material, they would just say "hey guys Smash is coming" and not even bother making any trailers at all. The existence of the Inklings in the latest trailer proves, however, that Nintendo is aware that announcing new characters contributes to building hype, and as such is a worthwhile investment.

Yet you have no counter to this example none and to top it off someone in another thread pointed out development on S4 didn't start until Kid Icarus was complete which is 2012, this would mean S4's own development was 2 years which further goes against your argument. Fire Emblem further backs my point we had a remake last year with a new game this year further showing more deviation.

The existence of Inklings in the trailer was curve ball by them to not just show them but add a bigger element of surprise because at that point in the direct they were looking at Splatoon 2 believe me the teaser could have very easily not had them and still generate the same amount of hype.