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Affirmative action is the only way to counter the racism in any country. I fully support Affirmative action groups seeking political change for the better. Affirmative action has changed the USA, South Africa, Zimbabwe and various countries around the world for the better.



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SpokenTruth said:
VAMatt said:

All government should get out of the picture.  Government at all levels has proven to be very bad at educating, relative to the private sector.  They provide, in many cases, one-size-fits-none garbage that only meets the official standards because they cheat test scores on behalf of students.  Government schools regularly push students through the system without educating them.  It is a sick joke.  Or, it would be, if it was funny.  But, its not funny.  It's fucked up.  They literally force people to pay for something, then they do not provide it.  Its robbery, plain as day.  You or I, or a group of us from VGC would be put in prison if we opened a school, forced the people in the neighborhood to pay for it, forced them to go to it, and gave them diplomas based on fake test scores.  For some reason, we allow government to continue doing this to people.  Worse yet, not only do we allow it.  Some of us push for government to take an even bigger role.  

I want people to get a quality education.  That's why I oppose government schools.  

Charter and private schools have their own caveats.  I can list 4 in my area that shut down mid year with no warning to parents or students because they didn't make enough money.  

I agree that our education system is outdated, underfunded (low teacher pay and lack of school supplies) and impractical (the one size fits all model is ridiculous as any teacher will tell you).  I'd suggest we look toward Japan and the Scandinavian countries for a complete overhaul of the whole thing.  I personally would love to see more of a Reggio Emilia approach.

DonFerrari said:

So state and municipalities aren't government? I could swear they collect taxes and expend it.

If you read further in the thread, you'll note I make a distinction between federal, state and local governments. But you mentioned politicians promising to fix education which is, ironically, a promise you usually hear from federal level candidates.

It may be ironical to you, but I have seem politicians in all level talking about how they are going to improve education or how much education is important and how bad it's being threated.

You may make any distinction you want, they are still government and inefficient.

Sure if a school can't make money it'll close, just government go and raise costs while demanding others to pay even if they don't want... so private companies need to go after market need and if unable to they close.

If you gone and look more at Japan you would see that they complain about the education all the time and request more money and expenditure... it is probably a global fetich to ask more government and more money to correct a issue that is much more on how the money is used than how much there is available, and that is the root of government.



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Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

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As a black person (a person in general): I can tell you it is because of how HUD basically funded housing. Straight forward thats it. The development of projects that were seconded off instead of funding a more diverse program which placed families within the established community. Everything else is just opinions. This is reality.



I think Brasil still has a huge racism problem.

The richest and most powerful people in that country are lighter skin people.



Brazil has ghettos that make USA ghettos look nice.  How is your military crackdown going in Rio?  Not so good...



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OP, I agree with you.

In Brazil, there is still a racial problem, but it's not as segregated as it is in the US. In "America", it seems like minorities have come to embrace the segregation in order to protect themselves. I think this happened because racism was much more severe in the US..

There is still racism in Brazil, but the people are more welcoming, and that has softened the segregation in a natural way. Brazilians are very inclusive, this has to do wih the way people are raised. Brazil doesn't have a history of war, and fighting. It's a completely different paradigm. People have more affectionate ways. This is, IMO, why the segregation isn't as bad today.



2 African-American men sitting in a Star Bucks were arrested because they appeared to be intimidating. This incident forced a shut down of 8,000 Star Bucks across the US as a protest against racism. Many innocent African-Americans are shot by trigger friendly police over minor issues. Fear, ignorance and hatred fuels the entrenched racism within American society. 

Last edited by Dark_Lord_2008 - on 21 April 2018

Dark_Lord_2008 said:

2 African-American men sitting in a Star Bucks were arrested because they appeared to be intimidating. This incident forced a shut down of 8,000 Star Bucks across the US as a protest against racism. Many innocent African-Americans are shot by trigger friendly police over minor issues. Fear, ignorance and hatred fuels the entrenched racism within American society. 

None of that is true.



The following links clearly back up my claims:
https://www.citylab.com/equity/2018/02/the-role-of-structural-racism-in-police-violence/553340/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2018/04/17/starbucks-to-close-8000-stores-for-racial-bias-education-on-may-29-after-arrest-of-two-black-men/?utm_term=.c2382a17ded4



Dark_Lord_2008 said:

2 African-American men sitting in a Star Bucks were arrested because they appeared to be intimidating. This incident forced a shut down of 8,000 Star Bucks across the US as a protest against racism. Many innocent African-Americans are shot by trigger friendly police over minor issues. Fear, ignorance and hatred fuels the entrenched racism within American society. 

I won't say that doesn't happen, but there were a lot of incidents that made it in the news that were just plain dumb on the "victim's" part.

They don't understand that any signs of non compliance can lead to an escalated case where an officer in duty can be shot. The threshold for "Maximum Tolerance" varies. When the authorities say you stop and get on your knees. Just fucking do it. If they seem tense, don't fucking move. But no. Here in America we exercise our "Rights" muscle just so we can be an absolute dick. When an officer takes you down or shoots you because it since they deemed that your actions might pose a grave threat to their safety, you or those who want to take advantage of the situation will twist things. They call foul play, excessive force and the worst case, cry racism and take to the streets.  People just really have narrow minds or like to twist the arm of the authorities just so they can drive their destructive agendas.


I'll pay 10 bucks these anarchists won't even set foot at being cops, or if they do, they would to a real fucking shit job at it.

Last edited by iron_megalith - on 22 April 2018