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Hahaa, wow. That doesn't just sound like a new low for Konami, but for the industry in general. If you're able to buy extra slots, then it sounds like the game can already include them. Having to pay to have extra save slots sounds pretty scummy.



 

              

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Remember when I said "Konami keeps getting worse when you think they CAN'T sink any lower"? Low and behold, it turns out they're not just locking character save slots behind a paywall (which is already bad enough by itself), they're also holding fucking weapon storage and loadouts to financial ransom:

Wow, this is beyond disgusting. Shit that should be given to you for free are being locked behind a giant paywall in this abomination of a game. MHW, a GotY contender gave you all of this shit for free. Hell, even Bunglevision gives you all of this shit for free in CoD and Destiny, and they're not far behind EA in terms of shady monetization schemes.

It's almost as if Konami told EA "hold my beer".

#FucKonami. 

Last edited by KManX89 - on 24 February 2018

Ljink96 said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

The moment they fucked over Kojima, they killed MGS forever. There's nothing more than could have done to eradicate it.

It's really sad too. Kojima was what was left of Konami and they killed him off. Igarashi couldn't put up with Konami anymore either. The dudes that made Konami are leaving, and soon they won't be known for videogames anymore. And if they do videogames, it'll be mobile.

I know, it's sad. I grew up in the 80's when the Konami brand was knowing for excellence. It's hard to believe this was once the house of Castlvania, MGS... Contra etc.



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I wonder how many people actually pay for an additional save slot.



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Wait just like pokemon? but for a fraction of the price? outrageous!!

 

Also I thought nobody is gonna buy the game anyway. So its not like its gonna affect anyone ^^



I'm not bothered by this at all.

If the game had only one save file and you had to completely delete your save to start over, no other option, people would probably be less angry (Pokemon, Breath of the Wild). However, that just doesn't make sense to me.

EDIT: Also, did one of the past Metal Gear Online games also require you to pay for additional saves?

Last edited by Dgc1808 - on 25 February 2018

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Shadow1980 said:
Xxain said:

Why do gamers always talk as if buying a company, especially a forceful buy, is like pulling up into a McDonald's drive-thru and making an order? As long as a company is money off "their" products they "deserve to exist" (eyeroll). 

Didn't say it could happen. It'll probably never happen. But a guy can hope, can't he?

And I can very much be of the opinion that Konami doesn't deserve to exist merely because they might be providing profits for their shareholders. They have a lot of history as a once-respected publisher that put out many great games. Because copyright terms exist for many decades, Konami can sit on their IPs and milk them for pachinko machine branding and the occasional shoddy spin-off video game until most of us are either old or dead. As someone who grew up playing Konami games back when the Konami name meant something, you're goddamn right I think that they either no longer deserve to exist as a company, or at minimum need some serious changes in leadership that will move them back towards being a respected game publisher. I don't simply have to sit back and resign myself with a heavy sigh and a subdued "Oh, well" because "it's not my company."

Tell me, do you ever object to anything a company does, or do you just go through life with a passive "Oh, well" attitude because "It's not my company, so I have no right to complain about anything they do ever"?

This is such a stupid post. It reeks of call to emotion and typical of call to emotion, logic takes a backseat. Konami is not a video games company. They are a entertainment business. They partake in many fields of entertainment - Toys, cards, gambling, Anime fitness ext. You only know Konami as a video games company because you are a gamer. There are people who only know Konami because they own Yu-Gi-Oh. What you are telling us is Konami should cease to exist as a company because they are not leveraging video games IP's in a way that suitable to your taste? They guys who enjoy MGS3 Pachinko should not matter, the millions of Yu-Gi-Oh fans dont matter. Do I need to go on? Konami can sit on their IP's for as long as they choose BECAUSE THEIR MONEY MADE THEM, THEY OWN THEM. If you bought a ferrari and you decide that you only want drive it once per year that is YOUR choice because YOU Own it. Do you think someone should be entitled to drive your car because they decided you weren't driving it enough? Do you respect/understand ownership laws. "Hey! I noticed you didn't come how for 3 weeks, sooo I made myself comfortable," said your neighbor.

Konami is not obligated to stay a video game/publisher. Konami is a arcade developer and their biggest hits dont transfer well as console games which is why they favor mobile and gambling; they can take full advantage of their arcade roots. MGS and PES are they only super successful console games Konami has. Every installment of castlevania sold less and less. Silent Hil peaked at 2 then downhill, Suikoden was never big. Maybe if gamers dropped the attitude that every game has to be 100 hours and a adopt a replay to master attitude instead maybe we wouldn't have lost our arcade style games from developers like SEGA and Konami?  They announced last year they would have more switch revivals. Gamers have develop a toxic level of entitlement though. 

Ljink96 said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

The moment they fucked over Kojima, they killed MGS forever. There's nothing more than could have done to eradicate it.

It's really sad too. Kojima was what was left of Konami and they killed him off. Igarashi couldn't put up with Konami anymore either. The dudes that made Konami are leaving, and soon they won't be known for videogames anymore. And if they do videogames, it'll be mobile.



EDIT: nevermind (cont'd below).

Last edited by KManX89 - on 25 February 2018

Ultr said:

Wait just like pokemon? but for a fraction of the price? outrageous!!

 

Also I thought nobody is gonna buy the game anyway. So its not like its gonna affect anyone ^^

 

Except, as I just pointed out earlier, unlike Konami, Pokemon has a perfectly valid reason for only allowing 1 save slot: so you can't farm unlimited one-time capture Pokemon and trade them to yourself via a third party. Ergo, it's a way to stop cheaters from having 6 lv 100 Mewtwos on their squad.

What's Konami's excuse for locking additional saves behind a paywall? Oh, right, greed. 

Xxain said:
Shadow1980 said:

Didn't say it could happen. It'll probably never happen. But a guy can hope, can't he?

And I can very much be of the opinion that Konami doesn't deserve to exist merely because they might be providing profits for their shareholders. They have a lot of history as a once-respected publisher that put out many great games. Because copyright terms exist for many decades, Konami can sit on their IPs and milk them for pachinko machine branding and the occasional shoddy spin-off video game until most of us are either old or dead. As someone who grew up playing Konami games back when the Konami name meant something, you're goddamn right I think that they either no longer deserve to exist as a company, or at minimum need some serious changes in leadership that will move them back towards being a respected game publisher. I don't simply have to sit back and resign myself with a heavy sigh and a subdued "Oh, well" because "it's not my company."

Tell me, do you ever object to anything a company does, or do you just go through life with a passive "Oh, well" attitude because "It's not my company, so I have no right to complain about anything they do ever"?

This is such a stupid post. It reeks of call to emotion and typical of call to emotion, logic takes a backseat. Konami is not a video games company. They are a entertainment business. They partake in many fields of entertainment - Toys, cards, gambling, Anime fitness ext. You only know Konami as a video games company because you are a gamer. There are people who only know Konami because they own Yu-Gi-Oh. What you are telling us is Konami should cease to exist as a company because they are not leveraging video games IP's in a way that suitable to your taste? They guys who enjoy MGS3 Pachinko should not matter, the millions of Yu-Gi-Oh fans dont matter. Do I need to go on? Konami can sit on their IP's for as long as they choose BECAUSE THEIR MONEY MADE THEM, THEY OWN THEM. If you bought a ferrari and you decide that you only want drive it once per year that is YOUR choice because YOU Own it. Do you think someone should be entitled to drive your car because they decided you weren't driving it enough? Do you respect/understand ownership laws. "Hey! I noticed you didn't come how for 3 weeks, sooo I made myself comfortable," said your neighbor.

Konami is not obligated to stay a video game/publisher. Konami is a arcade developer and their biggest hits dont transfer well as console games which is why they favor mobile and gambling; they can take full advantage of their arcade roots. MGS and PES are they only super successful console games Konami has. Every installment of castlevania sold less and less. Silent Hil peaked at 2 then downhill, Suikoden was never big. Maybe if gamers dropped the attitude that every game has to be 100 hours and a adopt a replay to master attitude instead maybe we wouldn't have lost our arcade style games from developers like SEGA and Konami?  They announced last year they would have more switch revivals. Gamers have develop a toxic level of entitlement though. 

Ljink96 said:

It's really sad too. Kojima was what was left of Konami and they killed him off. Igarashi couldn't put up with Konami anymore either. The dudes that made Konami are leaving, and soon they won't be known for videogames anymore. And if they do videogames, it'll be mobile.

And if it wasn't for us "entitled AAA gamers", Konami wouldn't be ALIVE today. They're only still around to sit on those IPs and slap em on pachinkos for cheap short-term profit because we GAVE them our money. Ergo, we have every right to voice our displeasure with their shady business practices. If game publishers want good PR, then they have to take care of the people who take care of THEM, that's how the community works and it's always been that way, but what do I know? They stopped caring about us gamers years ago, and it shows with them shoehorning their beloved franchises into pachinkos, cancelling highly-anticipated games (Silent Hills), selling mobile games for $50 (SBR) and selling asset flips for $40 (MGS) and locking every basic feature imaginable behind an exorbitant paywall to boot.

Last edited by KManX89 - on 25 February 2018