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Forums - Sales Discussion - January 2018 NPD Thread! Switch #1

TruckOSaurus said:
Kerotan said:

I'm talking about rick and i never said he was doing it intentionally. It's time the gang jumps off it. Threads going around in circles far too often lately .

Yeah but you made a parallel to yourself and I do see it.

Maybe in the past there's a parallel but not anymore. 



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Kerotan said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Yeah but you made a parallel to yourself and I do see it.

Maybe in the past there's a parallel but not anymore. 

Glad to hear it.



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quickrick said:
Kyuu said:
* Great month to all platforms.... minus the living dead.

* Alkbideas pretends "Street Fighter V Arcade Edition" is a system seller but nobody calls him out because he ain't Quickrick!

* To Amazon warriors (and I'm not one), the moral victory seems to go to Xbox after a very misleading Switch domination on Amazon. PS4 comes second because it should have had the higher benefit from MHW and DBFZ. Though this assumes the sales difference to be marginal as implied (20-50~k)

* Some users excused the minor hardware boost for Switch Octobor numbers saying "Odyssey came at the month's end"... When did MHW and DBZF release again? and are they exclusive?

* Pretty bad results for Skyrim, Xenoblade, and Doom (below Pokken)

well we have a mod say, ps4 wheels are falling off when it basically  sold  as much as the switch in it's 5th year, nobody called him out, but because i said switch falling of a cliff and clarified right after, i still have people trying to crucify me lol.

If the cliff comment was about not hitting 20M, does that mean Switch will climb/fall up the cliff if it manages to sell 20M?



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Think about it every week Nintendo basically slip a bonus 50-100k more consoles into players hands with the 3ds alongside having either a contender for the number 1 spot each month this last year.



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Nautilus said:
JRPGfan said:

But when your the bully its easy to say "its their own fault".

Its harder to just stop? this is when it should stop tbh.
You guys picking on him need to back off, its not good for the site that this happends here.

Its even worse for the site when we have users like him.There is zero problems with having preferences, but when you are that blind, but when you are that obtusive, it gets to the point that it kills everyone enjoyment in discussion and arguments, because in the end it will be down to "Look how much a victim I am!" and you wont have a healthy discussion or relationship with users here.All it was needed was for him to acknoledge his mistake and stop creating excuses and making himself look like a victim.Instead, he pushes on.

It simply kills discussions.For as much as I dont like Kerotan and Miyamotto, they try and have some king of logic behind them.If this were any other forum, Quickrick would have been banned long ago for the reasons above.

Edit:Plus its everyone thats mad at him, not only a selected fans of a fanbase.

I think we all have urges to go off on certain users because of the behaviours you described. The big issue with that is we do not personally know many of the people on this site and so we don't know what they are going through in life. When we resort to tactics like bullying, we run the chance of pushing someone who may be in a volatile state in real-life over the edge, which is really not worth it. Beyond that it contributes to the degradation of a healthy atmosphere that encourages sharing of opinion and having civil arguments.

Now of course there are users that do engage in problematic behaviours that are also detrimental to the state of the discussion. When such users pop-up I think it is just best to counter their arguments and if they engage in inciting behaviours (due to the nature of this site, it often comes down to directly or thinly-veiled "my favourite console/company/video game is better than yours and so yours should fail" type of rhetoric) then it is just best to report them to a mod as opposed to attacking them.

I am pretty much sure that we are all rooting for a certain device or company (I know I certainly am, which you can probably tell from my avatar), which as you mentioned is fine and even healthy with regards to having a diverse discussion on the prospects of gaming and consoles. Where it becomes dicey is when certain users become disruptive and provocative which prompts other users to attack that user; this ends up pretty much creates a toxic circle where one user(s) goes after another which essentially runs all healthy discussion into a ditch.



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I am so lost here.....why do people keep saying stuff like wow PS4 couldn't win with MHW....while it did MUCH better than previous entries of the game......was this supposed to be some huge system seller/pusher for the US to have an impact like that on NPD? I always looked at it and even Dragonball fighter Z to have a bigger impact in Japan WHICH THEY DID lol. So why are people saying stuff like PS4 lost with MHW and Dragonball fighter Z?

Anyway I am back late....do we have any new info?



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TheBlackNaruto said:
I am so lost here.....why do people keep saying stuff like wow PS4 couldn't win with MHW....while it did MUCH better than previous entries of the game......was this supposed to be some huge system seller/pusher for the US to have an impact like that on NPD? I always looked at it and even Dragonball fighter Z to have a bigger impact in Japan WHICH THEY DID lol. So why are people saying stuff like PS4 lost with MHW and Dragonball fighter Z?

Anyway I am back late....do we have any new info?

I think its more to do with switch having no new releases compared to that of x1/ps4 having 2 big games (not system sellers)



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
I feel like this just confirms what I have been thinking. When PS4 won 2017 in total sales people were out champing it like that was hard for it to do ... even though it only won because of stock, pricing, and a two month headstart.

i feel the same about people championing the Switch outselling the PS4 as a huge achievement when the PS4 is 3.5 years older and the Switch started out $100 cheaper



I think NPD cover all the PSVR bundles in their assessments too, so that could be added to the revenue equation.



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