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Forums - Sales Discussion - January 2018 NPD Thread! Switch #1

Intrinsic said:
UltimateGamer1982 said:
PS4 is doomed!!!! Xd. But seriously congrats to Nintendo. If PS4 still couldn’t win with monster hunter, I don’t see it winning too many months this year, if any. Depending how this year goes, Sony might start thinking of a 2019 ps5 launch. Which will make PS4 6 years old by that point.

 

FloatingWaffles said:

So even despite the PS4 getting several high profile releases such as, and especially, Monster Hunter World, DragonBall Fighter Z, etc in January it still couldn't take first place, where as Switch had like almost nothing noteworthy in January and still beat everything else.

As someone said earlier in this thread, Switch hardware is still just selling itself basically if it can win that month still with almost nothing noteworthy.  Fantastic sales for the Switch.

When did monster hunter become a major release in NA? And some are talking like the game is exclusive to the PS4 in NA.

How did the PS4 do in japan?

Monster Hunter World sold very well in the West.  The brand has not traditionally moved units, doesn't mean it didn't with this specific release.  Brand power can spike, it's happened before multiple times.  And it wasn't exclusive to PS4 but Sony did have the marketing rights, the bundle, and has a far larger audience interested in Japanese games.  Logically, nearly all benefit would go to PS4.  



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Intrinsic said:
UltimateGamer1982 said:
PS4 is doomed!!!! Xd. But seriously congrats to Nintendo. If PS4 still couldn’t win with monster hunter, I don’t see it winning too many months this year, if any. Depending how this year goes, Sony might start thinking of a 2019 ps5 launch. Which will make PS4 6 years old by that point.

 

FloatingWaffles said:

So even despite the PS4 getting several high profile releases such as, and especially, Monster Hunter World, DragonBall Fighter Z, etc in January it still couldn't take first place, where as Switch had like almost nothing noteworthy in January and still beat everything else.

As someone said earlier in this thread, Switch hardware is still just selling itself basically if it can win that month still with almost nothing noteworthy.  Fantastic sales for the Switch.

When did monster hunter become a major release in NA? And some are talking like the game is exclusive to the PS4 in NA.

How did the PS4 do in japan?

You might not consider it a major release, but the game was obviously intended to be big. Capcom even said that Monster Hunter World was their attempt at bringing the game a bigger audience worldwide, they wanted/intended for it to be a huge release. 

The PS4 did great in Japan thanks to Monster Hunter World for a few weeks, gave it quite the boost. Obviously Monster Hunter is much bigger in Japan than the rest of the world, but that's why Monster Hunter World exists in the first place, Capcom wanted to try to make it bigger in the rest of the world. 

Plus, even if you don't think it's a major release or anything, it still is much more than the Switch had that month. Switch literally had like nothing that was noteworthy in January, where as PS4 at least had DragonBall Fighter Z and Monster Hunter World, so that's why it's pretty amazing that Switch still outsold everything since it shows that even in a month where the system doesn't have any big game releases it can still sell well just on the hardware itself. 

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quickrick said:
Acevil said:

You stated that it would fall off a cliff. It clearly didn't. Unless PS4 is also falling off a cliff. So what is it, PS4 also falling off a cliff?

i said it would be flat. falling off a cliff i used for people expecting 20 million this year, as opposed to there expectations.

You can stop lying any time now.



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zorg1000 said:
quickrick said:

i said it would be flat. falling off a cliff i used for people expecting 20 million this year, as opposed to there expectations.

You can stop lying any time now.

He basically in denial at this stage. 



 

Can't wait for the numbers to see if the "Leniency" bet kicks in. All indications are that it will though.



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Good good to see all 3 consoles doing well. Guess the xbox one x is helping after all :)



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

peachbuggy said:
Can't wait for the numbers to see if the "Leniency" bet kicks in. All indications are that it will though.

If it does he will have an excuse, we know this, he will say how he meant July of 2018 would be worse or some BS. 



 

nemo37 said:

Switch is doing quite well right now despite a lack of new large scale releases. I do hope, however, that Nintendo has compelling larger-scale games ready for 2018 so that they can keep the momentum going (if they do not, then I fear not only for their 20 million goal but also for their ability to maintain their current momentum). In addition, ideally, they should also have a plan ready to reduce the system's price once Sony and MS do a permanent price cut (which at this point seems inevitable), in order to keep the system competitive this year.

Honestly, 20M units doesn't sound at all like a realistic target unless the Switch's performance starts skewing far more in favour of NA/EU rather than Japan because going by the recent media create numbers the Switch is starting to noticeably fall behind the 3DS ... (for January 2012 the 3DS did 500K while in 2017 the Switch did around ~300K) 

Switch only has a moderate advantage over the 3DS in NA on a weekly basis so far ... (NA/EU will really have to pick up the slack for the Switch's performance in Japan)

As for Sony it's time for a price cut to $249 ... 

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Monster Hunter World seems to have worked out extraordinarily well for Capcom, #1 on both PS4 and Xbox One. They must be extremely happy with those sales. What expectations did they have again?



peachbuggy said:
Can't wait for the numbers to see if the "Leniency" bet kicks in. All indications are that it will though.

if super nes and 3ds did a combined 250k, i should easily win. switch,xbox, and ps4 are extremely close un units sales according to matt, and i raised the bet to 295k for the extra week, and he agreed.