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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware Sales 20 January 2018

fatslob-:O said:
peachbuggy said:

No need to reply to you really, looks like you got OWNED in the very next post. You seemed to think 30k was the baseline for Switch in Europe before, now there has been several adjustments and it looks like it's almost 3x that amount. No doubt you will try and deny that part of it though. 

"OWNED" ? LMAO, that's the grammar of a teenage troll on the internet ... 

That's the very definition of what happened to you. Most people would hold their hands up and admit they were wrong. You, however aren't most people, so tried to hit out and deflect. Nice! Changing the subject doesn't make you any less wrong, you know?



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quickrick said:
peachbuggy said:

Quickrick and a few others. The vocal minority. They scream about it often and loud enough for the sales team to take notice of it even though there is no real evidence. They are simply Switch naysayers and i have no idea why the sales team even acknowledges their non-evidence. 

I wasn't gonna post in this thread, but wow how much times are you mention my name, lol. You think vgchartz would care about what i said if there was no evidence? of course all these numbers are speculation with a bit of evidence involved, so it doesn't really matter. Nintendo themselves said 13 million as of now, which was feb 1. I think if it was 14.6 million like vgchartz is suggesting, nintendo would have giving a 14 million estimate, why? well for one thing if nintendo sold through all its stock, basically they would be 100% sure they are over 14 million, but of course they used 13 million number because they didn't want to impress investors.

The strategy meeting where Kimishima mentioned the 13 million figure was for sales up to the end of the 3rd quarter of 2017, i.e., sales up to December 31st. The tracking period ended in December 31st. Nintendo never said "as of now". All the sales from January to March will be given at the next fiscal report.



peachbuggy said:
quickrick said:

I wasn't gonna post in this thread, but wow how much times are you mention my name, lol. You think vgchartz would care about what i said if there was no evidence? of course all these numbers are speculation with a bit of evidence involved, so it doesn't really matter. Nintendo themselves said 13 million as of now, which was feb 1. I think if it was 14.6 million like vgchartz is suggesting, nintendo would have giving a 14 million estimate, why? well for one thing if nintendo sold through all its stock, basically they would be 100% sure they are over 14 million, but of course they used 13 million number because they didn't want to impress investors.

There is no evidence. The only "evidence" is in your head. 13m doesn't mean EXACTLY 13m, just as you took the date it was stated far too literally.  Those numbers also only included NA, Japan and Europe. That's not the whole world. I am amazed you are still on this 1 man crusade to discredit Switch numbers. I really thought you would have chilled out about it by now. You refuse to accept reason and logic, even when it is posted right in front of you and  continue to try to influence the sales estimators here. The only question is why?

did you miss the part where i said if nintendo sold through there entire shipment which is what vgchartz suggests, nintendo would have announced  14 million  sold.



Keybladewielder said:
quickrick said:

I wasn't gonna post in this thread, but wow how much times are you mention my name, lol. You think vgchartz would care about what i said if there was no evidence? of course all these numbers are speculation with a bit of evidence involved, so it doesn't really matter. Nintendo themselves said 13 million as of now, which was feb 1. I think if it was 14.6 million like vgchartz is suggesting, nintendo would have giving a 14 million estimate, why? well for one thing if nintendo sold through all its stock, basically they would be 100% sure they are over 14 million, but of course they used 13 million number because they didn't want to impress investors.

The strategy meeting where Kimishima mentioned the 13 million figure was for sales up to the end of the 3rd quarter of 2017, i.e., sales up to December 31st. The tracking period ended in December 31st. Nintendo never said "as of now". All the sales from January to March will be given at the next fiscal report.

no nintedo can report numbers out of that period, they did last report. the charts they used in there report went to week 47 which is jan 21, so that has been proven false, along with nintedo using the word now which means at the present.



I love this site. @peachbuggy. I'm not sure if you whether or not you actually think quickrick is influencing the numbers, but it kind of looks that way....The point of my posts was to point out, in as impish a way as possible, that this is not the case. I was fishing for you, but ended up reeling in fatslob-:O. No disrespect to any of the involved parties. Just trying to set things straight. With a twist of lemon.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

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peachbuggy said:

That's the very definition of what happened to you. Most people would hold their hands up and admit they were wrong. You, however aren't most people, so tried to hit out and deflect. Nice! Changing the subject doesn't make you any less wrong, you know?

The fact of the matter is vgc numbers are always adjusted so you're wrong and most of the time so ... 

How does it feel to know that your strongman persona gets shutdown from everybody else aside from you predisposed protesters ? 

I think we're in for another adjustment for the Switch and quickrick is on to something about the european numbers being a little suspect ...



quickrick said:
peachbuggy said:

There is no evidence. The only "evidence" is in your head. 13m doesn't mean EXACTLY 13m, just as you took the date it was stated far too literally.  Those numbers also only included NA, Japan and Europe. That's not the whole world. I am amazed you are still on this 1 man crusade to discredit Switch numbers. I really thought you would have chilled out about it by now. You refuse to accept reason and logic, even when it is posted right in front of you and  continue to try to influence the sales estimators here. The only question is why?

did you miss the part where i said if nintendo sold through there entire shipment which is what vgchartz suggests, nintendo would have announced  14 million  sold.

Again, you are refusing to see stuff put right in front of you. The data included ONLY Europe, NA and Japan. ROTW could quite easily account for another 1-1.5m+.



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In my opinion the N64 was not just the best console of the 5th gen but, to this day the best console ever created!

fatslob-:O said:
peachbuggy said:

That's the very definition of what happened to you. Most people would hold their hands up and admit they were wrong. You, however aren't most people, so tried to hit out and deflect. Nice! Changing the subject doesn't make you any less wrong, you know?

The fact of the matter is vgc numbers are always adjusted so you're wrong and most of the time so ... 

How does it feel to know that your strongman persona gets shutdown from everybody else aside from you predisposed protesters ? 

I think we're in for another adjustment for the Switch and quickrick is on to something about the european numbers being a little suspect ...

Lol name 1 time i was wrong. You, on the other hand...

As for the Europe numbers, i'm sure they will be adjusted but unfortunately for you it will be upwards. As usual you will be wrong lol. As for your strongman comment, please try to use better grammar. I have no idea what you are trying to say.



DON'T WIN ME CHIBI BUDDY DON'T WIN ME.

ANIMAL CROSSING NEW LEAF FRIEND CODE:- 5129 1175 1029. MESSAGE ME.
ANDY MURRAY:- GRAND SLAM WINNER!

In my opinion the N64 was not just the best console of the 5th gen but, to this day the best console ever created!

peachbuggy said:

Lol name 1 time i was wrong. You, on the other hand...

As for the Europe numbers, i'm sure they will be adjusted but unfortunately for you it will be upwards. As usual you will be wrong lol. As for your strongman comment, please try to use better grammar. I have no idea what you are trying to say.

Well for one thing the sales team always disagrees with you by making adjustments in your disfavour ...  

@Bold Is your mentality that of a 4chan poster ?



quickrick said:
Keybladewielder said:

The strategy meeting where Kimishima mentioned the 13 million figure was for sales up to the end of the 3rd quarter of 2017, i.e., sales up to December 31st. The tracking period ended in December 31st. Nintendo never said "as of now". All the sales from January to March will be given at the next fiscal report.

no nintedo can report numbers out of that period, they did last report. the charts they used in there report went to week 47 which is jan 21, so that has been proven false, along with nintedo using the word now which means at the present.

Where does it mention something about week 47? Please, could you link me to it.

The only reports I found were these:

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2018/180131_3e.pdf

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2018/180131e.pdf

Also, where did they use the word "now"?