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"I don't need an explanation why Nintendo wanted it, that's self apparent. The question is why Platinum needed it so badly that it couldn't have been done with any other publisher or at a later date. "They like Nintendo" doesn't seem to be a sufficient explanation since he just explained that they're basically willing to do business with anyone who has money.

It seems Nintendo was just a convenient way to get quick money and so they were fine with compromising on their vision and throwing their fanbase under the bus. I just want to hear that from his mouth. Making a game exclusive to a specific platform is never the best option for any game."

"I do own a Switch and I do own a Wii U and I do own Bayonetta 2 for Wii U. I played Bayonetta 2 for Wii U until I threw it away in disgust. I will certainly not touch Bayonetta 3 until I get a Bayonetta 2 that actually lives up to what Bayonetta is supposed to be. A fast paced, responsive spectacle fighter.

Call it grief if you must but as far as I'm concerned, Bayonetta got a treatment that it didn't deserve. And that's apparently eternally going to stay this way, so I'm going to eternally complain about it.

I don't like the decision Platninum made with Bayonetta and I think it's fair to complain about it as a consumer and as a fan of the first game."

 

 

Butt-hurt much?  Holy cow, dude.

Like Kamiya, Segata and Rol...I fail to understand why people just don't get it.  Bayo didn't get mistreated...it got saved from oblivion because noone else thought it had promise enough to invest into it after the first game, except for Nintendo.  Even after many explanations, some are still fighting it.  Kamiya is no asshole, but to those that think he is for dealing with everyone's idiocy, I would make him look like mother theresa after my rebuttle to this nonsense.

As far as the technical prowess of Bayo 2, is it perfect, no...but AT LEAST IT GOT MADE.  it's certainly better than the mess that was Bayo 1 on ps3 for goodness sake.  As far as the Switch version, check out Digital Foundrys first looks at it and I think you will be appeased....or at least you should be.  But, no, nm.  I'm sure you will still be bitching.

Last edited by Kwaidd - on 13 February 2018

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Super_Boom said:
Chazore said:

That's your own issue, not mine.

There is also a huge difference between third party asking and first party. 

In the context of this conversation and how copyright works, it’s effectively a 1st party title, as Nintendo and Sega apparently share the copyright. Don’t let the conversation get bogged down by semantics, based on the information we have currently, Rol is correct.

If you’re interested in discussing the brand itself in context of future games, that’s another story, but the ownership of Bayonetta 2 and 3 should be clear at this point. We don’t need the same topic argued ad hominem, so next time you have this argument with someone, please provide counter-evidence to end the argument early, or just step away from it to begin with.

If only you knew Rol, if only you knew. 



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@ Chazore

 

If there isn't a rl cosplayer for your avatar, there needs to be.  though I don't know who could do that justice.  good lord.



Chazore said:

If only you knew Rol, if only you knew. 

If your implication is that Rol won’t accept counter-evidence, then that simply means that your positions will be reversed from what they are right now. Not that it matters in this particular case, because he’s simply stating the facts as we know them.

Discussion can’t exist if you ignore counter-points, which is why back and forths like this are pointless. Either present your case for disagreement or step away to begin with. I think most people here are sick of the ignorance surrounding this topic.



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Super_Boom said:
Chazore said:

If only you knew Rol, if only you knew. 

If your implication is that Rol won’t accept counter-evidence, then that simply means that your positions will be reversed from what they are right now. Not that it matters in this particular case, because he’s simply stating the facts as we know them.

Discussion can’t exist if you ignore counter-points, which is why back and forths like this are pointless. Either present your case for disagreement or step away to begin with. I think most people here are sick of the ignorance surrounding this topic.

No, I've learned from observing how you counterpoint other people's argument. You love to warp the subject to how you see it, rather than how it actually is. This is why I saw it heading down that road with our discussion and why I decided to not waste any more time with it, because the same results were showing up.

 

Why don't you take your own advice and step away yourself?.

I'm rather sick of how you warp things back and forth tbh. 



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Kwaidd said:

@ Chazore

 

If there isn't a rl cosplayer for your avatar, there needs to be.  though I don't know who could do that justice.  good lord.

https://phoenix-shadowxx.deviantart.com/art/Ghost-in-Shell-nsfw-optional-597266606

Oh believe me, there are some goof Makoto cosplayers out there You just gotta look for them.



Step right up come on in, feel the buzz in your veins, I'm like an chemical electrical right into your brain and I'm the one who killed the Radio, soon you'll all see

So pay up motherfuckers you belong to "V"

Chazore said:
Kwaidd said:

@ Chazore

 

If there isn't a rl cosplayer for your avatar, there needs to be.  though I don't know who could do that justice.  good lord.

https://phoenix-shadowxx.deviantart.com/art/Ghost-in-Shell-nsfw-optional-597266606

Oh believe me, there are some goof Makoto cosplayers out there You just gotta look for them.

This is some good stuff. A level above Reiq might I say.



OTBWY said:

This is some good stuff. A level above Reiq might I say.

Ah, I wasn't aware that you are a fan of Reiq as well



Step right up come on in, feel the buzz in your veins, I'm like an chemical electrical right into your brain and I'm the one who killed the Radio, soon you'll all see

So pay up motherfuckers you belong to "V"

Chazore said:
OTBWY said:

This is some good stuff. A level above Reiq might I say.

Ah, I wasn't aware that you are a fan of Reiq as well

A man has many fine tastes, refined over many years, tuned to perfection.



Chazore said:

No, I've learned from observing how you counterpoint other people's argument. You love to warp the subject to how you see it, rather than how it actually is. This is why I saw it heading down that road with our discussion and why I decided to not waste any more time with it, because the same results were showing up.

 

Why don't you take your own advice and step away yourself?.

I'm rather sick of how you warp things back and forth tbh. 

Do you think you’re still talking to Rol? I can honestly count the number of actual arguments I’ve had on VGC on one hand, so I’m going to need examples here.

As for the bolded, why do you think? I have no interest in this thread personally, I’m here because I’m a moderator. I’m telling you to add contributions of value or step away from these type of topics. You have a habit of this, else I wouldn’t be talking to you in the first place.

This thread conversation will end here, but you’re welcome to PM me if you wish.

Last edited by Super_Boom - on 13 February 2018

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