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PwerlvlAmy on 11 February 2018

Sonys domination of Europe can never be under played. Did they control Europe this much last gen too or was that microsoft.



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Normchacho on 11 February 2018
newwil7l said:
zorg1000 said:

Didnt try?

They have cut the price pretty much annually, they have released all of their big exclusive IP, they have paid for exclusivity for some really big franchises, they have released a redesign and an upgrade, they are now going to have all their IP available day 1 through Game Pass.....

They have tried their asses off.

Aside from slashing prices which all three companies do what else have they done? Thats right a whole lot of nothing.

Are you being serious? Microsoft has been way more aggressive with it's pricing then either Sony or Nintendo. It launched at $499 and is now $279 with a game.



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jason1637 on 11 February 2018
PwerlvlAmy said:
Sonys domination of Europe can never be under played. Did they control Europe this much last gen too or was that microsoft.

Sony won Europe last gen but Nintendo was a really close second. 



zorg1000 on 11 February 2018
newwil7l said:
zorg1000 said:

Didnt try?

They have cut the price pretty much annually, they have released all of their big exclusive IP, they have paid for exclusivity for some really big franchises, they have released a redesign and an upgrade, they are now going to have all their IP available day 1 through Game Pass.....

They have tried their asses off.

Aside from slashing prices which all three companies do what else have they done? Thats right a whole lot of nothing.

Umm read my post again, i literally just made a list.

Better question, what else can they do?



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zorg1000 on 11 February 2018
Normchacho said:
newwil7l said:

Aside from slashing prices which all three companies do what else have they done? Thats right a whole lot of nothing.

Are you being serious? Microsoft has been way more aggressive with it's pricing then either Sony or Nintendo. It launched at $499 and is now $279 with a game.

And is regularly found at $199



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quickrick on 11 February 2018
Normchacho said:
newwil7l said:

Aside from slashing prices which all three companies do what else have they done? Thats right a whole lot of nothing.

Are you being serious? Microsoft has been way more aggressive with it's pricing then either Sony or Nintendo. It launched at $499 and is now $279 with a game.

it should have never launched at 499$, it should launched at 349.99$ with out kinect, kinect really hurt xbox this gen.



COKTOE on 11 February 2018
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
COKTOE said:

Awwww...That's sweet. :) I like to rag on it a bit, but it's very lovely console.

A little rag here and there is fine xD. I just wish ANY OTHER console had the Game Pass... can you imagine?

It's a pretty crazy deal. Great for new customers, those who care less about physical copies, or are budget constrained. If the exact same thing came to the PS consoles, I'd pass just because I have no use for it. I already find the 6 games a month from PS+ to be largely overkill due to my lucky boy library. Still working my way through PS3 PS+ games from 5-6 years ago.



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Bofferbrauer2 on 11 February 2018
quickrick said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

You missed the part where in many european countries they sold pretty much as much during the holiday season as they did throughout the rest of the year. You can deduce at most 500k from US sales (Nintendo sells more the closer they are to the holidays; 300k would actually be more correct imo, but ok, so we're at 11M), add the million from Japan (550k is until December 17, not december 31 - there's literally 2 200k+ weeks missing there) and a million from Europe and you're at 13M

Don't think EU numbers are lower to US numbers because Sony is outselling the Switch there, the numbers are actually roughly similar. It's Sony who has much more sales in Europe than it does in NA, which lends to this perception

300k during the holidays in 8 days with cyber money included, it's at least 500k, japan is actually around 780k from December 4, and according nintedo own charts switch is at 5.5 million in north America while it's only 3.5 million in europe. remember this is best case scenario the 10 million mark could be any where between dec 4-10  

a) 5.5M is shipment to americas, meaning all of north ans south america

b) As almost usual, you glossed over the part where in many european countries the Switch sold as much during the holiday season as it did during all the months before, which means the console had a huge push there during he holidays and makes a million sales in that timeframe very easely possible.

Stop cherrypicking and quotemining please, it's unnerving having to deliver more and more facts just because you gloss over them all and dismiss them equally, no matter what proofs we show you

We hadn't had a report from Sony about their sales after december 31. I'm going to assume they didn't sell a single console in that timeframe now. Sounds ludicrous? It is, but that's just the kind of mindset you're bringing to the table here and we all have to debunk here



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PwerlvlAmy on 11 February 2018
jason1637 said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
Sonys domination of Europe can never be under played. Did they control Europe this much last gen too or was that microsoft.

Sony won Europe last gen but Nintendo was a really close second. 

Ahh i see. Yeah seems like Sony has always had that strong lock down on EU



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quickrick on 11 February 2018
Bofferbrauer2 said:
quickrick said:

300k during the holidays in 8 days with cyber money included, it's at least 500k, japan is actually around 780k from December 4, and according nintedo own charts switch is at 5.5 million in north America while it's only 3.5 million in europe. remember this is best case scenario the 10 million mark could be any where between dec 4-10  

a) 5.5M is shipment to americas, meaning all of north ans south america

b) As almost usual, you glossed over the part where in many european countries the Switch sold as much during the holiday season as it did during all the months before, which means the console had a huge push there during he holidays and makes a million sales in that timeframe very easely possible.

Stop cherrypicking and quotemining please, it's unnerving having to deliver more and more facts just because you gloss over them all and dismiss them equally, no matter what proofs we show you

We hadn't had a report from Sony about their sales after december 31. I'm going to assume they didn't sell a single console in that timeframe now. Sounds ludicrous? It is, but that's just the kind of mindset you're bringing to the table here and we all have to debunk here

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2018/180201_2e.pdf page 2 look for yourself, switch in north america is doing much better then europe. these are  sell through estimates by the way, the other stuff  just sounds like angry rambling. in the holidays its normal for a console to out sell all other months combined for that year.

Last edited by quickrick - on 11 February 2018