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PS5 release date

2018 Nov 0 0%
 
2019 Nov 23 17.16%
 
2020 Nov 81 60.45%
 
2021 Nov 20 14.93%
 
2022 +++++ Nov 8 5.97%
 
2040 PS4 is selling too good! 2 1.49%
 
Total:134
Errorist76 said:
LivingMetal said:

Going by history, backwards compatibility is not a primary prerogative of Sony's. And going by current trends of PS4 sales, why would Sony want to butcher PS4 hardware sales by allowing backwards compatibility with the PS5?

The last gens the architecture changed heavily from generation to generation. Next gen will most likely also see an X86 based system, which imho makes BC very likely. 

Sony can easily miss out on hardware sales for PS4 if it benefits the PS5. The sooner they start building their future the better. It could even benefit PS4 sales late in the cycle, if people would know all their games would also work on the next new system.

I can’t imagine they’d leave the field of BC to MS, when the main reason for no BC on PS4, the Cell’s difficult architecture, is not a thing anymore.

exactly! PS3 had terrible complicated arc.

 

They would be fools to not allow BC on the ps5 because it is only adds benefits for the company. 



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FallingTitan said:

interesting. it true the ps4 is selling so strong but isn't a 8 year cycle a bit long especially now a days?

 

I guess I can see a 2021 at the latest in Nov as usual because of sales.  

 

But sony did say by 2020 50% of the buying public will have 4k tv's so maybe 2020 they will give us PS5 4k 60fps system. Thats the critical point 50% apparently?

The funny thing is that the generations will only become longer as the differences between them become less obvious.

Look at the PS4, chances are, the PS5 would not make PS4 games look like crap. As would be even less obvious going from PS5 to PS6. Sad thing is that "graphics" is the single largest marketing front of any new generation of hardware. So until the hardware is there to make a significantly noticeable jump in graphics at an affordable console price, don't expect to see the PS5.

So as i keep saying in threads like these, look to whenever chips from amd or nvidia are manufactured on a 7/10nm process. The new consoles from sony and MS will show up around a year or two after that. NOT BEFORE.



April 20, 2018.



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flashfire926 said:
Heavenly_King said:
2020 The PS4 is doing Terrific, there is no need to release PS5 yet. Considering TLOU2 most probably will release in 2019, I dont think they would announce PS5 and steal the thunder of the game

It's not as if PS4 stole tlou thunder in 2013 anyways, and now it's even less likely now that it's a renowned game/ip and not a brand-new one.

Not that I disagree with you that's it's coming in 2020 anyways.

I think Sony has learned a lot of their past mistakes, so I doubt the PS5 wont launch with some Heavy hitter IP, so it could take away some attention from TLOU, unless the PS5 is backwards compatible......I really hope that .



Pemalite said:
mutantsushi said:
CPU/GPU process is normally discussed as main factor in new gen launch (which it is), but memory process and data-bus developments could also be factors, although I'm less familiar with announced developments there and their 'due date'...?

HBM2, GDDR5X is already mass-market.

GDDR6 is ramping up and will be mass produced this year if it hasn't already. (Couldn't be bothered to check)
So memory tech shouldn't be a hindrance.

Yes, it is actually. Currently 32GB GDDR6 is not possible without a very expensive 512bit bus.

Of course if you want 16GB or 24GB, it won't be a problem, but even 24GB isn't enough IMO. The best would be 32GB games + 4 or 8GB OS: 36GB or 40GB in total.



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globalisateur said:
Pemalite said:

HBM2, GDDR5X is already mass-market.

GDDR6 is ramping up and will be mass produced this year if it hasn't already. (Couldn't be bothered to check)
So memory tech shouldn't be a hindrance.

Yes, it is actually. Currently 32GB GDDR6 is not possible without a very expensive 512bit bus.

Of course if you want 16GB or 24GB, it won't be a problem, but even 24GB isn't enough IMO. The best would be 32GB games + 4 or 8GB OS: 36GB or 40GB in total.

Most PC's today are 8-16 GB right? and most users dont need more.

Why would a console need 32GB at this point? that would just needlessly drive up prices wouldnt it?

I think 24 GB for next gen should be more than enough.



Voted for Nov 2019, also you should add march 2020 (as a voting option). We seen nintendo launching in march months with great success.

I voted Nov 2019 because all new technology will be ready by then. Gddr6 memory, 7nm tranistor technology, Navi gpu and AMD ryzen cpu.

We will probably see Nvidia gddr6 Gpus in like 2 months. 7 nm transistor is being released faster than I had predicted, expect a new ipad pro in aug-sep with 7 nm from TSMC this year. Navi in summer 2019. Ryzen is already ready but I expect Sony to go with latest ryzen cpu (Zen2).

From the small amount of insider information we got, Ps5 will be a pretty boring console. It will be about twice as powerful as ps4 pro with backwards compatibility.

I expect a 4 core cpu with 8 threads (2,8ghz), 9 TF gpu, 16 GB gddr6 (448 GB/s bandwidth) and a mechanical hard drive for laptops (140+ mb/s read speed). 

The only reason I see Sony launching later than 2019 is because something has gone wrong. Like the Ps5 is to expensive to produce or they having troubles getting backwards compatibility working properly.



6x master league achiever in starcraft2

Beaten Sigrun on God of war mode

Beaten DOOM ultra-nightmare with NO endless ammo-rune, 2x super shotgun and no decoys on ps4 pro.

1-0 against Grubby in Wc3 frozen throne ladder!!

Shadow1980 said:
Depends on how quickly the PS4's sales decline post-peak. The PS5 will come out no earlier than 2020, though I doubt it'll be out any later than 2022. If we don't see a big YoY decline this year, then I'm going to go with 2021. If we do, then 2020.

I don't see how ps4 sales will affect the release of ps5. Sony make most of their money from Ps+ subscribers and game sales. They wanna keep those strong and not having big dips like the last gen between the years 2011-2012. And also not being a disruption where they see big drop in game sales and ps+ subscribers because they launch the console late with no BC (like a reset).



6x master league achiever in starcraft2

Beaten Sigrun on God of war mode

Beaten DOOM ultra-nightmare with NO endless ammo-rune, 2x super shotgun and no decoys on ps4 pro.

1-0 against Grubby in Wc3 frozen throne ladder!!

fatslob-:O said:
flashfire926 said:

 

Well, doesn't this just prove my point even more? It's not as if the PS3 was unaffected by it.

And if you're point is right, why was ps2 replaced in six years when it doing amazing numbers?

The ignoratio elenchi fallacy is really getting annoying on these boards ... (How about you guys actually start showing how the opposition's argument will further yours ? That shouldn't be too hard from now on, right ?) 

What you say about PS2 doing "amazing" numbers isn't true either considering the system peaked in it's second year. PS3 replaced PS2 earlier because the latter was reaching a plateau in it's main market and had hardly any further room for growth ... (just before the laun of the PS3, PS2 was selling for $129) 

Ok the way I worded my post, it should've been clear, but let me say it again: PS3 lasting 7 years proves my point, because that was also prolonged by the recession, like the Xbox 360 was. 

PS2 peaking doesn't mean shit when you take a look at its 2006-2007-2008 numbers. New games were coming out regularly, even games that weren't on the PS3 (gow2, persona 4, etc)It was obvious that ps2 had a ton of life left in it, And easily could've been dragged on for an addition two years.



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The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

GribbleGrunger said:
flashfire926 said:

PS5 is not going to launch in a non-holiday month. Mark my words. 

EVEN fall 2018 is more likier than spring 2019.

The reason I think mid 2019 is to get the jump on MS. MS released their mid gen console a year after Sony so it's less likely Sony will get a huge backlash from those who only just recently bought a Pro. MS would have to wait a little longer in order to make sure they didn't have a backlash. Pro wasn't promoted heavily whilst the XB1X was, which makes it even harder for MS to try and release alongside Sony if Sony decide to release mid 2019. This would give Sony at least 6 months head start in building a userbase for the PS5, unless MS take that big risk. Throw in BC and as far as I'm concerned it's game over. 

You're reasoning is on point, but what's makes you believe that a new Xbox will come before 2020? Even if Sony chooses fall 2019, they will get a year head start.

edit: and why cannibalize PS4 sales this early? Having PS5 one year after PS4's theoretical peak, would be somewhat stupid if you ask me.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.