StarOcean said:
They are. Trump supporters, like the Russians, are subhuman. They lost their rights as people the moment they worshipped their balding god. |
So why do you hate Russia?
StarOcean said:
They are. Trump supporters, like the Russians, are subhuman. They lost their rights as people the moment they worshipped their balding god. |
So why do you hate Russia?
StarOcean said:
They are. Trump supporters, like the Russians, are subhuman. They lost their rights as people the moment they worshipped their balding god. |
You just intelligently stated that the dems and the reps are the same, and you are mostly right with that. I just don't get why Hillary, or any other political supporter, isn't receiving the same amount of hate from you.
The escalation with Russia was happening before Trump got elected, the deep state is finishing what they started, albeit with a different narrative from the one that would've been used if Hillary won. Lies have used before to escalate and invade foreign countries before, why is it so unbelievable to you that the Russian narrative is used as a tool to achieve similar goals?
As Kyle stated, there is enough evidence pointing to Trump colluding with Saudi Arabia, why isn't that being used against him? Because impeaching Trump or catching him red-handed is NOT the ultimate goal. The ultimate goal is to keep this ridiculous Russian narrative going until the time is right to escalate to more than just accusations and sanctions.
Last edited by LurkerJ - on 12 February 2018McDonaldsGuy said:
Oh really? You've been posting since 2013 - so can you show me a post of you hating Russia pre-Crimea invasion? I'd be interested. If not, why do you hate Russia then? |
I’d only show it to actual people.
It’s a country that values religion over science and education. For a 3rd world country like them to easily hit the US is so stupid considering the US is supposed to be so advanced. The US should have ended them when it had the chance as soon as the Cold War ended.
StarOcean said:
I’d only show it to actual people. It’s a country that values religion over science and education. For a 3rd world country like them to easily hit the US is so stupid considering the US is supposed to be so advanced. The US should have ended them when it had the chance as soon as the Cold War ended. |
What do you mean by ended them? The Soviet Union collapsed and disintegrated into 15 different states and Russia lost its sphere of influence, what more did you want them to do?
NightDragon83 said: The only reason Russia is even a topic at this point is because Trump won. |
Irony, I would be thankful if they exposed corruption. They keep us honest and we accuse them of collusion...
Good grief... Someone shoot me please...
StarOcean said:
They are. Trump supporters, like the Russians, are subhuman. They lost their rights as people the moment they worshipped their balding god. |
You think Russians are subhuman?
LurkerJ said:
You just intelligently stated that the dems and the reps are the same, and you are mostly right with that. I just don't get why Hillary, or any other political supporter, isn't receiving the same amount of hate from you. The escalation with Russia was happening before Trump got elected, the deep state is finishing what they started, albeit with a different narrative from the one that would've been used if Hillary won. Lies have used before to escalate and invade foreign countries before, why is it so unbelievable to you that the Russian narrative is used as a tool to achieve similar goals? As Kyle stated, there is enough evidence pointing to Trump colluding with Saudi Arabia, why isn't that being used against him? Because impeaching Trump or catching him red-handed is NOT the ultimate goal. The ultimate goal is to keep this ridiculous Russian narrative going until the time is right to escalate to more than just accusations and sanctions. |
She didn’t win. So it’s not an issue. Trump, let me be clear, in theory -is not bad. However, the grave error was believing he was different. It was clear from the get-go he wasnt. In fact he’s an idiot sellout that goes for who praises him most. A Democratic-Republican dream. He’ll do all their bidding for the agenda all the while the Dem/Reps can go “Oh that’s not good.” -I guarantee you that when a Dem takes office, all of the policies they protest will not be changed because it IS what they want. The Dems want the wall and the Reps want war, they only do it to trick those who havent caught on that they’re the same.
StarOcean said:
She didn’t win. So it’s not an issue. Trump, let me be clear, in theory -is not bad. However, the grave error was believing he was different. It was clear from the get-go he wasnt. In fact he’s an idiot sellout that goes for who praises him most. A Democratic-Republican dream. He’ll do all their bidding for the agenda all the while the Dem/Reps can go “Oh that’s not good.” -I guarantee you that when a Dem takes office, all of the policies they protest will not be changed because it IS what they want. The Dems want the wall and the Reps want war, they only do it to trick those who havent caught on that they’re the same. |
What are yapping on about with dems want a wall and reps want a war? You either don't know what you're talking about or you're purposely mischaracterizing their stances.
If a dem replaces Trump, his party would have to have control of congress to be able to change anything that was passed through congress. Any of the executive orders that helped boost the economy or created jobs would likely be changed as quietly as possible or piece by piece to avoid negative attention.
StarOcean said:
She didn’t win. So it’s not an issue. Trump, let me be clear, in theory -is not bad. However, the grave error was believing he was different. It was clear from the get-go he wasnt. In fact he’s an idiot sellout that goes for who praises him most. A Democratic-Republican dream. He’ll do all their bidding for the agenda all the while the Dem/Reps can go “Oh that’s not good.” -I guarantee you that when a Dem takes office, all of the policies they protest will not be changed because it IS what they want. The Dems want the wall and the Reps want war, they only do it to trick those who havent caught on that they’re the same. |
See, posts like this give me a bit of hope, as you can recognize the issues for both the Democrats and Republicans, but I highly disagree with the conclusions that you come to. I really do encourage you to read some socialist works, I think you can find something that you'd agree with, and it also avoids resorting to viewing people as subhuman and falling into a trap of racist beliefs.
I find that whole "Russia tried to influence the POTUS election!" completetly ridiculous.
Did the russian government prefer one POTUS candidate? Probably. And maybe they really tried to influence the POTUS election in order to improve the chances of their preferred candidate to win.
Pretty much every government tries to influence elections in other countries in some way; if these governments point their fingers at russia now, they're nothing but the worst hypocrites. Germany for example clearly tried to influence the Brexit voting, they tried to influence the POTUS election (for example by giving 5 million dollars to Clinton's infamous "pay-to-play" foundation right during the POTUS election, or by producing Anti-Trump and Pro-Clinton articles and publishing them via the german government-controlled international media etc.).
Governments are constantly trying to influence the affairs of other countries to their liking, sometimes more, sometimes less successful.
And the US itself probably has the worst record of meddling with foreign elections of them all; in 1996 for example they were successful at making their preferred candidate Boris Yeltsin president of Russia. The TIME magazine even proudly admitted that back then:
http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1996/1101960715_400.jpg
So Russia trying to influence foreign elections is quite probable, simply because every country does so. And yet, the "proof" they've presented so far is ridiculously harmless:
For example some facebook ads worth a few tenthousand bucks. Not only is that virtually nothing; it got even more ridiculous when they had to admit that hardly any of these ads advocated a specific POTUS candidate, and that the majority of these ads were published AFTER the POTUS election - which makes perfectly clear that the purpose of these ads wasn't even to influence the POTUS election, for it makes no sense to publish such ads after the election had already taken place.
I completely agree with what someone has written on the first thread page: If the "right" candidate had won (Clinton), there would never even have been any reporting on this.
If I remember correctly, someone working on the Clinton campaign meanwhile even admitted that the whole "Russia rigged the election" narrative was invented after Clinton lost, simply because they needed a scapegoat to place the blame on.