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zorg1000 on 01 February 2018
quickrick said:
zorg1000 said:

Yes, because they said so and because their shpment data supports it unless you believe it had ~2.5 million on shelves or in transit.

The 13 million sold through number is announced as of now, everybody is in agreement with that, i believe 2.1 million on shelves/in transit is the norm, especially with a system that had stock problems the whole year, if they got there stuff together its not some crazy numbers, ps4 had 4 million on shelves at one point, but usually around 2 million.  

PS4 shipped vs sold difference was 1.4 million at the end of its first holiday (18.5m vs 19.9m)

PS4 only had the 4 million or so at one point, the end of 2016 when they overshipped it.

We know it was overshipped because their forcast for this fiscal year is lower than last year despite selling 3.5m more this year.



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quickrick on 01 February 2018
zorg1000 said:
quickrick said:

The 13 million sold through number is announced as of now, everybody is in agreement with that, i believe 2.1 million on shelves/in transit is the norm, especially with a system that had stock problems the whole year, if they got there stuff together its not some crazy numbers, ps4 had 4 million on shelves at one point, but usually around 2 million.  

PS4 shipped vs sold difference was 1.4 million at the end of its first holiday (18.5m vs 19.9m)

PS4 only had the 4 million or so at one point, the end of 2016 when they overshipped it.

We know it was overshipped because their forcast for this fiscal year is lower than last year despite selling 3.5m more this year.

second year it was around 1.8 million. thats with 3-4 days excluded so probably around 2 million. first year it 1.5.  all we have to do is look at the chart, in europe it says 3.5 million sold through according to there chart, yet they shipped 5.2 million there, so it's something hard to figure out, maybe there killing it in asia, who knows.

Last edited by quickrick - on 01 February 2018

kazuyamishima on 01 February 2018
mZuzek said:
Switch ahead of PS4 in the year's first week... is this a sign of things to come?

Ps4 is MEGA-Doomed, Definitely.



PwerlvlAmy on 01 February 2018

Switch and PS4 killin it



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zorg1000 on 01 February 2018
quickrick said:
zorg1000 said:

PS4 shipped vs sold difference was 1.4 million at the end of its first holiday (18.5m vs 19.9m)

PS4 only had the 4 million or so at one point, the end of 2016 when they overshipped it.

We know it was overshipped because their forcast for this fiscal year is lower than last year despite selling 3.5m more this year.

second year it was around 1.8 million. thats with 3-4 days excluded so probably around 2 million. first year it 1.5.  all we have to do is look at the chart, in europe it says 3.5 million sold through according to there chart, yet they shipped 5.2 million there, so it's something hard to figure out, maybe there killing it in asia, who knows.

They shipped 5.2 million in OTHER, not Europe.

Other includes Europe, Australia, Africa & Asia (excluding Japan).

Europe is ~3.5 million

We dont have any concrete numbers for the other 3 continents but we know S. Korea alone did 110k in 1 month so it not out the question that they did close to 1 million combined.

Japan sold ~3.35m (average of Media Create & Famitsu)

Japan shipped ~3.7m

Americas sold ~5.5m (USA 4.88m NPD, Can+LatAm ~600k)

Americas shipped ~5.9m

Other sold ~4.5m (Europe ~3.5m, Au/Af/As ~1m)

Other shipped ~5.2m

 

On shelves/in transit

Japan ~350k

Americas ~400k

Other ~700k

Total ~1.45m

 

Shipped 14.86m

Sold 13.4m

 

It adds up



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quickrick on 01 February 2018
zorg1000 said:
quickrick said:

second year it was around 1.8 million. thats with 3-4 days excluded so probably around 2 million. first year it 1.5.  all we have to do is look at the chart, in europe it says 3.5 million sold through according to there chart, yet they shipped 5.2 million there, so it's something hard to figure out, maybe there killing it in asia, who knows.

They shipped 5.2 million in OTHER, not Europe.

Other includes Europe, Australia, Africa & Asia (excluding Japan).

Europe is ~3.5 million

We dont have any concrete numbers for the other 3 continents but we know S. Korea alone did 110k in 1 month so it not out the question that they did close to 1 million combined.

Japan sold ~3.35m (average of Media Create & Famitsu)

Japan shipped ~3.7m

Americas sold ~5.5m (USA 4.88m NPD, Can+LatAm ~600k)

Americas shipped ~5.9m

Other sold ~4.5m (Europe ~3.5m, Au/Af/As ~1m)

Other shipped ~5.2m

 

On shelves/in transit

Japan ~350k

Americas ~400k

Other ~700k

Total ~1.45m

 

Shipped 14.86m

Sold 13.4m

 

It adds up

remember that chart states as of week 47 which is till jan 21. 1 million in other only in Au/Af/As, is very very high. i also wouldn't have a problem believing over 13 million if it wasn't for the sold through 10 million date as of december 10, and npd data, it just doesn't line up. the data from  nov 26-till December 9  NPD wouldn't be included  at the very least it sold 500k in that period. that leaves 1 million in the north America  is strongest region by far. so every where else it sold less, it does it get to 3 million? only way is if nintendo 10 million announcement  excluded or regions or they were at 10.5 million.

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XD84 on 02 February 2018
RolStoppable said:

Labo will be beasting and lead to worldwide cardboard shortages.

lol



Shikamo on 02 February 2018
RolStoppable said:
mZuzek said:

Well I just meant it as Switch outselling the PS4 this year, but whatever.

I also wasn't quite serious. Personally I'm a bit unsure, I think PS4 is still going to take this year but it'll be closer.

Labo will be beasting and lead to worldwide cardboard shortages.

With the labo kit below.. yeah i'm sure it will



     


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JSG87 on 02 February 2018
quickrick said:
zorg1000 said:

Your "good info" also said i was wrong to think Switch was undertracked when they had it at 12.3 million.......

i mean we still don't really know how many nintendo really sold, i thought it was around at 12.5 to 12.6,, and i was always thought they would ship 14.5 million shipped, till i started seeing shortages in japan , aside from that if the nintendo  10 million report as of december 10 is really sold through WW with out excluding any regions since it doesn't state that, along with the npd data, there is no way they sold  over 3 million.

Lmao. At their investor meeting yesterday they literally said their sold to consumers was over 13 million with 14.86 million shipped. They never gave an exact figure of what over 13 million had been shipped either but going by that report from Famitsu Switch reached 10 Million at least a week before Nintendo announced that they had sold 10 Million and then when Famitsu made their announcement, Nintendo had sold approximately 13.2 million units.

 

Regardless they Switch was over 13 million by December 31st sold to consumers confirmed.

 

http://www.siliconera.com/2018/02/01/nintendo-switch-sell-comparison-wii-wii-u-north-america-europe-japan

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Keybladewielder on 02 February 2018
Shikamo said:

With the labo kit below.. yeah i'm sure it will

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